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Tue Aug 11, 2009 3:19 pm linkquote
Hi Folks,
I just want to share my experiences in terms of tuning the Fuoco with you. The following is build in my Fuoco:
# Acerbis Dual Road Handprotection
# Givi Case E52 Monokey (integrated the top of the german army radio SEM 35)
# Malossi Sport Exaust
# Electric heated grips
# Original Windscreen from Gilera
# Osram 55 W H11 Night Braker bulbs
# Dr Pulley Sliding roles 15g (SR2517 25x17)
# Dr Pulley Clutch (http://www.sip-scootershop.com/Products/...RIEPRO+HiT.aspx)
# Malossi Variomatic (http://www.malossi.com/catalogo/Cata_Mai...&CodArt=5112769)
# Malossi Air Filter (http://www.malossi.com/catalogo/Cata_Mai...&CodArt=1412129)
# TomTom Rider 2 Navi
# LED Backlights SR 50
# Kellermann Rhombus Indicators
# Stebel Nautilus Compact Horn with 135 Decibel

Future planes: putting up the 160 Diabolo Tyres.

What did happen with the Fuoco?
After all the tuning, it is at least 2 seconds faster at the 60 mph
the engine stays nearly allways near the 6-8000 turns
much better resonance from the throttle
in Germany you are allowed just 50 km/h in the city ... one has to be carefull: once a little on the throttle and you reach 90 km/h in 1,5 sec. Local Police will not be amused ...





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Tue Aug 11, 2009 4:20 pm linkquote
Pics please!
Very nice mods; but...

Let's see some close-up photos, huh?! 800-px minimum width. Front-, left-, rear-, and right-side elevations. Go!
Tue Aug 11, 2009 4:50 pm

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Tue Aug 11, 2009 4:50 pm linkquote
Re: Pics please!
sushiman007 wrote:
Very nice mods; but...

Let's see some close-up photos, huh?! 800-px minimum width. Front-, left-, rear-, and right-side elevations. Go!
I would love to, but this forum is so restrictive with the size of the pictures ... will take some time to modify the photos that they will "fit" here ...
I´ll do my very best ...
Wolf
Tue Aug 11, 2009 5:10 pm

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Tue Aug 11, 2009 5:10 pm linkquote
Re: Pics please!
MrJam_HH wrote:
sushiman007 wrote:
Very nice mods; but...

Let's see some close-up photos, huh?! 800-px minimum width. Front-, left-, rear-, and right-side elevations. Go!
I would love to, but this forum is so restrictive with the size of the pictures ... will take some time to modify the photos that they will "fit" here ...
I´ll do my very best ...
Wolf
Irfanview. Easy and fast

http://download.cnet.com/1770-20_4-0.html?query=irfanview&tag=srch&searchtype=downloads&filterName=platform%3DWindows&filter=platform%3DWindows
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Tue Aug 11, 2009 5:24 pm linkquote
Re: Pics please!
+1000

Irfanview is by far and away the best 'simple' image manipulator for Windoze users out there. At "the right price" too.

The batch processing is a dream. 1000 photo's to resize and change from raw to jpg? No problemo...

Want a web-page? Two key-strokes here...

I use it many times a day.
Tue Aug 11, 2009 5:37 pm

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Tue Aug 11, 2009 5:37 pm linkquote
Okay, just to be fair, he did have one very small picture.

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Tue Aug 11, 2009 5:39 pm linkquote
I use the easiest/cheapest resizer ever....Microsoft Paint. I simply open the photo, press Ctrl-W for resizing, select 50% for height and width and resave the file...done!
Wed Aug 12, 2009 2:44 am

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Wed Aug 12, 2009 2:44 am linkquote
Pictures
Ok, here we are agin.
Sorry that I cant give you so many close up pictures as I do not work by myself on the bike - all things have been done by a dealer.
But I will show all pictures I have, ok?
Here we go:

There will be more in a couple og hours
Cheers from Hamburg, enjoy,
Wolf


these are the LED Backlights - they are from a SR50


this are the "resistance" things for the Kellermann indicators


These are the Kellermann indicators


Backlight and indicators "in action"


Thats the way I fixed the TomTom Rider 2 to the Fuoco


This is the military radio build in the top case


once again


The colour is german army green.


Fuoco MP3 500

Wed Aug 12, 2009 3:20 am

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Wed Aug 12, 2009 3:20 am linkquote
Very cool stuff! The army touches suits it somehow.
Wed Aug 12, 2009 3:45 am

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Wed Aug 12, 2009 3:45 am linkquote
Cool!
Great stuff, unique approaches, thanks!
I especially like the LED lights. It's hard to imagine how anyone would argue about those LED brake lights not being bright enough. I must get some.

Wed Aug 12, 2009 5:32 am

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Wed Aug 12, 2009 5:32 am linkquote
Nice mods! What do you use the radio for? I mean is it a 2 way or is it just a regular radio? I ask because the shanghai cheapie i bought died on me and i need a new one...not from shanghai this time.
Wed Aug 12, 2009 6:07 am

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Wed Aug 12, 2009 6:07 am linkquote
Sushi, are you still kinda "cash-poor"
I think we're both sweating on SIP to do some re-stocking, but I think we're going to pass out from going blue in the face from holding our breath
http://www.sip-scootershop.com/Products/AC204321/Rear+light+TNT+clear+glass+LED.aspx

Wed Aug 12, 2009 6:10 am

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Wed Aug 12, 2009 6:10 am linkquote
LED Lamps and Radio
Hi Guys,

here in Europe there we have a numbering system saying that if the article hast this E-number, one can use it without a need of declaring it.
it is not allowed to put for example different tyre sizes on a moto. An instand deletion of the driving permission of the motobike would be the result. If one changes something, you have to advise it at the technical institution in charge of supervising this (In Germany called TÜV) or the part has an E-Number. The led brakelights I used have this E-Number.At EBAY you could by it here
http://cgi.ebay.de/Ruecklicht-Aprilia-SR-50-SR50-LED-ABE-Chrome_W0QQitemZ320409966189QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMotorrad_Kraftradteile?hash=item4a99ec166d&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14
or at S.I.P Scootershop directly

@ Radio
it is not the entire Radio, just the top of it ... that means it is a fake. I have one SEM 35 in perfect condition here at home, but it would have been to big and heavy to build it on the Fuoco. And for sure the usage is forbidden in Germany (as almost everything )
So I bought a definetly broken one (it still had a badge from the army maintenance batallion on it saying it is not repairable.) an cut the top just for design reasons.
Gives the uoco a more "realistic" touch ....

Cheers,
Wolf


Radio build in Givi Topcase

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Wed Aug 12, 2009 6:22 am linkquote
Re: Cool!
sushiman007 wrote:
Great stuff, unique approaches, thanks!
I especially like the LED lights. It's hard to imagine how anyone would argue about those LED brake lights not being bright enough. I must get some.

sushiman007

But those are OEM LED lights and are much brighter then most aftermarket junk.

MrJam_HH

I really want to get those SR50 lights. Do you have the parts numbers?

Wayne B
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Wed Aug 12, 2009 8:28 am linkquote
This looks awesome!
Wed Aug 12, 2009 9:38 am

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Wed Aug 12, 2009 9:38 am linkquote
Kellermann´s
Well, I ordered them here
#
# Kellermann Rhombus
http://motomoto.nl/shop/?SID=356c25c07c5...tore=nederlands
I spoke with Mr R.Smits costed 181 Euro incl s&h to Germany.
And including the relais/ resistance "things" one needs for shure, as the LED Indicators need different voltage. Depending of your electrical system, there are different resistance boxes (the golden one shown at my picture above)
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Wed Aug 12, 2009 10:33 am linkquote
Nice mods! Any particular reason you didn't go with the J Costa variator?
Wed Aug 12, 2009 11:38 am

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Wed Aug 12, 2009 11:38 am linkquote
Costa Variator
Well, as I heared, this one is very good too. But at my dealer one guy already had some experience with the Malossi Variator and his Master Motor 500ccm but on a Nexus and he said it was a big difference.
The costa variator may be good to but I do not know anybody in person who owns it - with the Malossi I had one - which i could blame for if it would not have had any positive effect As the Costa is almost the same price, I decided for the Malossi as I am a little bit more convienced by the Malossi technique in combination with the Dr. Pulley stuff.
And the Malossi was available imideatly - the Costa had to be ordered and had a delivery time of 3 weeks.

So: no particular technical reason why I decided for the Malossi
Cheers,
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Wed Aug 12, 2009 1:14 pm linkquote
SR 50
RobertRedCap wrote:
http://kellermann-online.com/km_shop/index.php?option=com_virtuemart&page=shop.browse&category_id=11&Itemid=26
Hi Wayne,

sorry, do not know the part number, but just follow the link on EBAY regarding the LEDs which I put , they have an english website too.

For sure you just use the inner things and throw the chrome ring away.

But why not using this one?
http://cgi.ebay.de/Ruecklicht-Aprilia-SR-50-SR50-LED-ABE-Chrome-mit-Blinker_W0QQitemZ320411182676QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMotorrad_Kraftradteile?hash=item4a99fea654&_trksid=p4634.c0.m14.l1262

it allready has the indicators intigrated on top of the day- and braklight. So you can get rid of the normal indicators and do not need the KRhombus indikaters for the back ... just as an idea.

http://www.scp-shop.de./ebay/bilder/Blinker_und_Beleuchtung/srrucklicht1.jpg


Here in Germany this would not be allowed for the fuoco, but overseas? Probably it looks nice,

Cheers,

Wolf
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Wed Aug 12, 2009 2:47 pm linkquote
I will get some...but I don't mean now
Dingo and Wayne B,

Instead of waiting for SIP to restock the LED taillights used by MrJam_HH, I think I will just get these ones with the blinkers instead. They seem to be in stock all the time and I do like the blinker feature. Would be nice to be able to use the chrome housings on the MP3, wouldn't it?

Yes, still a bit cash-poor, otherwise I would have order about $900 worth of parts from SIP since I have an Aprilia SR50 (my other scooter) to rebuild. For some reasons, when I went to test ride the MP3 500 for the first time, I just knew that those taillights are the exact same as those on the SR!
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Thu Aug 13, 2009 4:54 am linkquote
Re: I will get some...but I don't mean now
sushiman007 wrote:
Dingo and Wayne B,

Instead of waiting for SIP to restock the LED taillights used by MrJam_HH, I think I will just get these ones with the blinkers instead. They seem to be in stock all the time and I do like the blinker feature. Would be nice to be able to use the chrome housings on the MP3, wouldn't it?

Yes, still a bit cash-poor, otherwise I would have order about $900 worth of parts from SIP since I have an Aprilia SR50 (my other scooter) to rebuild. For some reasons, when I went to test ride the MP3 500 for the first time, I just knew that those taillights are the exact same as those on the SR!
I as well have an SR50... I KNEW IT TOO!!! Recycling parts
Thu Aug 13, 2009 5:23 am

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Thu Aug 13, 2009 5:23 am linkquote
Sushiman, below is a post from the SIP community re the blinkered LEDs:

Hi...
Does anyone know why both my blinkers are flashing at the same time? I've connected it the way I figured was right, but if I turn the blinker on to the left both lights start flashing (the same happens if I turn on the right one).
Anyone who could help me?
Thanks,
Alexander


Guess these lights could be dodgy or someone's a born bomb disposal expert

An another review re SIP lights:

AC204331 REAR LIGHT TNT APRILIA DITECH NETSCAPER/SR2000/WWW/STEALTH, CLEAR GLASS/RED BULB
melts
melts after 5 mins but can us stand in side bits and keep the chrome. safer that way as the fuel tank be hind the lights


May be best to wait for some more reviews, unless someone like Mr Jam_HH can weigh in here and give us a review. Sorry if I'm high-jacking the thread. BTW Mr Jam, great work with your MP3, and I'm sure Arnold Schwarzenegger would be proud to own one like yours
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Thu Aug 13, 2009 7:20 am linkquote
Re: I will get some...but I don't mean now
sushiman007 wrote:
Dingo and Wayne B,

Instead of waiting for SIP to restock the LED taillights used by MrJam_HH, I think I will just get these ones with the blinkers instead. They seem to be in stock all the time and I do like the blinker feature. Would be nice to be able to use the chrome housings on the MP3, wouldn't it?

Yes, still a bit cash-poor, otherwise I would have order about $900 worth of parts from SIP since I have an Aprilia SR50 (my other scooter) to rebuild. For some reasons, when I went to test ride the MP3 500 for the first time, I just knew that those taillights are the exact same as those on the SR!
Are you saying that besides the electrical connections, you just unscrew the 500 lense and screw on the SR50 lense? Is THAT what you are saying? Is it? Huh?
Thu Aug 13, 2009 8:19 am

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Thu Aug 13, 2009 8:19 am linkquote
LED Lights
Hi everybody,

the only thing I could find out is that this lights are made by
a company named STR8 in Italy and are produced in Taiwan.

Here is a german website containing all information you need to order, I think

http://www.racing-planet.de/scootertuning-ruecklicht-str8-lexus-inkl-blinkerfunktion-p-101555-1.html?sessID=r43gpbpmbgkh3k65ngnlp01d6ld56dcl

http://www.racing-planet.de/images/gross/13559_str8_led_ruecklicht_aprilia_sr_50_www.jpg?language=de&sessID=r43gpbpmbgkh3k65ngnlp01d6ld56dcl


Cheers,

Wolf
Thu Aug 13, 2009 8:36 am

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Thu Aug 13, 2009 8:36 am linkquote
Led Lights 2
mjm50cal and DINGO
maybe at SIP these are different lights.
I have mine in my Fuoco one year now ....
and the fact I am still writing and shall go for a ride in a minute proofs, that the lights I am talking about are safe und durable.

They are defintely from STR8 and and working fine ... I do not know who these guys are in SIP and if they are really meaning the same led lights.

Cheers and have fun,

Wolf
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Thu Aug 13, 2009 8:52 am linkquote
Re: I will get some...but I don't mean now
Are you saying that besides the electrical connections, you just unscrew the 500 lense and screw on the SR50 lense? Is THAT what you are saying? Is it? Huh?[/quote]



Dear mjm50cal,

as far as I understood it ---> it is as simple as that!!! You have to take out the whole plastic part to build in the LED lamps from behind, to say so!
Look at the picture

Cheers,

Wolf



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Thu Aug 13, 2009 10:04 am linkquote
Thanks.
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Fri Feb 05, 2010 8:01 pm linkquote
Good News!
DINGO wrote:
Sushi, are you still kinda "cash-poor"
I think we're both sweating on SIP to do some re-stocking, but I think we're going to pass out from going blue in the face from holding our breath
http://www.sip-scootershop.com/Products/AC204321/Rear+light+TNT+clear+glass+LED.aspx
SCOOTER CENTER ® has got them. And this man in Colorado can get them for you!


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Sat Feb 06, 2010 4:21 am linkquote
MrJam_HH, could you please post a couple of night photos of theyour LED taillights, with or without the brake engaged? Thank you!

I just got curious (and wanted to see a comparison) when I saw this picture in another thread (*I know, different models):

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Wed Feb 10, 2010 11:34 pm linkquote
LED brake lights
Hey, DINGO
Installed it myself. Pretty bright!
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