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How does it turn?

Benelli Boy UTC details Ossessionato X10 350 Joined: UTC Posts: 2959 Location: London
Benelli Boy Ossessionato X10 350 Joined: UTC Posts: 2959 Location: London	UTC quote I rode in today without a single instance of consciously countersteering. As I do nearly every day.

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Re: How does it turn?

rjeffb wrote:

>I've asked for a wavier because I want to ride the bike I will be riding on

Didn't I read somewhere recently, maybe even on this forum, that MSF national had issued a memo to chapters that you do NOT need a waiver to ride an MP3 in the course? If someone knows where that is, maybe you could post the link for Vandave. I asked instructors in my chapter about it and they were fuzzy ("uh, yeah I think I heard something about that") and knowing what's actually in that memo could be helpful.

POSITION REGARDING SUITABILITY OF PIAGGIO MP3 SCOOTER FOR USE IN MOTORCYCLE TRAINING COURSES AND OPERATOR LICENSING TESTING

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Re: How does it turn?

vandave wrote:

paige wrote:

Do you have a bunch of extra $$$ lying around to repair your bike? In my opinion, it is far better to practice on a small bike belonging to an instructor than on your own shiny new bike. Piaggios cost a fortune to fix. And parts, especially nonstandard ones, can take forever to arrive. The minor irritation of shifting (I despise shifting and will never own a bike or scooter with a manual clutch) is a small price to pay for the professional instruction and objective evaluation of the MSF course.

Motorcycle riding is an entirely new skill set to learn. Would you advise someone to not take a drivers education course because he did not like the instructors car, rather to buy a new car and practice alone?

I don't think four hours of riding someone else's small bike is going lower my damage potential when I begin ridding. I've asked for a wavier because I want to ride the bike I will be riding on and I don't really care to have the license endorsement after completing the course. For me it is to hear from experienced instructors how best to ride, avoid accidents, equipment selection, etc. I'm in no hurry to go cross country. I'll my time learning before high speeds and turns. Thanks for your comments.

*This* is why you should take the MSF. You don't know what you don't know until you know it.

stickyfrog UTC details Moderatus Rana MP3 250 and 2 MP3 500s Joined: UTC Posts: 22659 Location: Nashville, Indiana
stickyfrog Moderatus Rana MP3 250 and 2 MP3 500s Joined: UTC Posts: 22659 Location: Nashville, Indiana	UTC quote Benelli Boy wrote: I rode in today without a single instance of consciously countersteering. As I do nearly every day. so do a lot of people...but just think of how much more fun you could be having if you did.

rjeffb UTC details Bracketmeister Bracketmeister Emeritus (retired) Joined: UTC Posts: 2519 Location: New Jersey
rjeffb Bracketmeister Bracketmeister Emeritus (retired) Joined: UTC Posts: 2519 Location: New Jersey	UTC quote EdInBTR, yes, that's exactly it, the official word from the official horse's mouth. Vandave, check out that link and if it helps, print it out and show it to your local MSF instructor.

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