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That one is in better shape than mine.
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greasy125 wrote:
the engine is a 50, hence ET2. the transmission cover is what gives it away.

seller is a moron.

now it's a fancy burrito for me AND you pay me to take it.

(kidding, it's probably an okay deal sub 800 or so)
no cover under the kickstart over the transmission so et2 50cc
ad seems a little hinky !
Thank you::
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I want that rally engine. Dont really need the rest tho
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I want that rally engine. Dont really need the rest tho
I'll split it with you. I could use the parts.

I have a spare Rally and P case. But the rest of the parts. Who doesn't love a destroyed 1974 Rally?

That's a good deal. I paid $800 just for a Rally case.

I tried messaging that person, and it gets an error.
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Wonder how much of it is there?
A fork column with fender. Maybe a cowl? Cylinder shroud.
A fork column with fender. Maybe a cowl? Cylinder shroud.
Gross old tires. Treacherous whitewalls, rusty front rack, shock. two hubs. Weird pipe.
Gross old tires. Treacherous whitewalls, rusty front rack, shock. two hubs. Weird pipe.
Half-finished welds left to rust. Seat with original upholstery.
Half-finished welds left to rust. Seat with original upholstery.
Hard to tell with that engine. It has some modified air filter. Oversized carb? LOTS of dust. The stator wire is all taped up. Can't tell if it's Fmsa or Ducati.
Hard to tell with that engine. It has some modified air filter. Oversized carb? LOTS of dust. The stator wire is all taped up. Can't tell if it's Fmsa or Ducati.
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I'll split it with you. I could use the parts.

I have a spare Rally and P case. But the rest of the parts. Who doesn't love a destroyed 1974 Rally?

That's a good deal. I paid $800 just for a Rally case.

I tried messaging that person, and it gets an error.
I'm open to this. Looks like a load of good parts for your project. I could possibly use the rusty rack for my patina party GL. Engine has an oldschool HRA airfilter.

Maybe we can make this happen! I'll send you a PM.
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Wonder how much of it is there?
$1000 worth

if you've got a decent, properly built, running motor I'd say it's easy double that.

add in some cowls that aren't trashed, a straight fork with all the hard parts there, front fender, a headset that isn't totally sloppy, and a clean tank? there's damn near another G

front rack, Conti white walls that appear brand new, simonini RH pipe, center stand if decent, shock and seat frame maybe some other misc. bits is about another 300

there's a femsa box in the one pic, so it's most likely femsa set up.

so, yeah, it's worth 1K but is the juice worth the squeeze on the parts? trying to build a rally out of that would be a long slog uphill both ways.
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$1000 worth

if you've got a decent, properly built, running motor I'd say it's easy double that.

add in some cowls that aren't trashed, a straight fork with all the hard parts there, front fender, a headset that isn't totally sloppy, and a clean tank? there's damn near another G

front rack, Conti white walls that appear brand new, simonini RH pipe, center stand if decent, shock and seat frame maybe some other misc. bits is about another 300

there's a femsa box in the one pic, so it's most likely femsa set up.

so, yeah, it's worth 1K but is the juice worth the squeeze on the parts? trying to build a rally out of that would be a long slog uphill both ways.
The pile is easily worth the price. Eqzy peezy. HJo and I are pouncing. Wish us luck
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jealous! cool score for you guys if it comes thru.
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"Condition - New"

Good sense of humor!

Fingers crossed for yall!!
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If that were closer, it'd be a no-brainer for me now that I live in the land where regulations are things we mostly just read about.
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Potomac Vintage Riders Swap Meet - York, PA (today)
62 Allstate $2250
62 Allstate $2250
64 Fuji Rabbit $400
64 Fuji Rabbit $400
64 Allstate Compact $750
64 Allstate Compact $750
19XX Stella $850
19XX Stella $850
1947 Cushman $2000
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None of those prices are really out of line. I do like that blue 62.
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$850 sure seems like a lot for all the bits needed to swap a hydro disc brake into a P series.
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$850 sure seems like a lot for all the bits needed to swap a hydro disc brake into a P series.
some quick back of the beer box math you'd be looking at about 700 to source all of that new, and easily more for better or trick components.

so figure, you get a disc set up that's robust and not all cobbled together. then you get a spare frame, motor and sellable bits for 200 bucks!
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shockingly, all of those are very reasonable to downright deals. a little haggling and several would be a steal.
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I'd be all over that Stella for 850, for all the reasons Greasy listed off, but also because I love me some Stella motor for tuned builds,
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Dang. Wish this was happening next weekend when I'll be in York for a hockey tournament.
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I like the blue Allstate and yeah I'd hit that Stella at that price too.
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I like the blue Allstate and yeah I'd hit that Stella at that price too.
You and me both!
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A $400 Fuji Rabbit!
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A $400 Fuji Rabbit!
it's a trap!

[insert admiral Akbar (dot) gif here]
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That thing would just sit forever.

I almost bought some old rare scooter off CL (I think it was a Peugeot), and Barry Gwin talked me out of it.

You basically have to fabricate the parts for those.
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it's a trap!

[insert admiral Akbar (dot) gif here]
You could always just ride the Stella...

The Fuji...stick a shop vac in there or stand it on its end and make it say Exterminate!
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Whaaaaat?! Dang it, I had no idea that was going on. I totally would have checked it out. I work right down the street.
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Rally for 3k, has damage but he sounds willing to move on price.

https://sandiego.craigslist.org/csd/for/d/san-diego-vespa-rally/7436436245.html
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^^^

if I had the cash to splash that would be in the back of my truck and headed back to a undisclosed location points north.

oh, and I'd drop off a bunch of parts to John while I was down there.
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yeah you could go several ways with that one. bang out the dents, local paint / rust repair and rock it. or full on restore as it's all there. I just have a feeling that it can be had for what is a pretty good price, given what Rally 200's are going for.
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I can see why people are buying them and shipping back to Europe.

Ran across this one in Italy. Around $5600 in this condition.

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prices in the UK and Europe are just nuts, they buy classic motorcycles by the containerful over here and ship them to the UK. read a great article in my Classic Bike magazine from the UK about how it all works. it's a huge industry.
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This one was in England. It sold, so there's no price. But it has an SF Scooter Centre plate frame. And they just removed half the American parts and covered the holes in tape.
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This one was in England. It sold, so there's no price. But it has an SF Scooter Centre plate frame. And they just removed half the American parts and covered the holes in tape.
The California license plate was also a bit of a giveaway.

As if it wasn't already hard enough to find good projects at decent prices, now we have to deal with those sneaky Europeans repatriating their bikes back like they were made in Italy or something! Razz emoticon
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prices in the UK and Europe are just nuts, they buy classic motorcycles by the containerful over here and ship them to the UK. read a great article in my Classic Bike magazine from the UK about how it all works. it's a huge industry.
I think this is long awaited Karma. Guy I knew in Florida in the early 80s had been a long
distance trucker. He met a lovely lady, settled down and started a motorcycle parts and service shop mainly dealing in Harley stuff. He would stay in contact with all his old trucker buddies and give them a kick back on any old Harleys for sale around the US. He then would contract out a few trucks to buy and pick them up. By the end of the summer, he would have several containers full of bikes - Flatheads, Knuckles, Pans and the occasional Shovelhead. He then would sell all of them and ship out to England and Germany. I made the wise ass remark one time in his shop that if I wanted a classic Harley, I would need to go over seas to buy as he was sending them all over there. I was banned from his place after that.
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The California license plate was also a bit of a giveaway.

As if it wasn't already hard enough to find good projects at decent prices, now we have to deal with those sneaky Europeans repatriating their bikes back like they were made in Italy or something! Razz emoticon
I'll hold my amusement for a few more years, when we can start trolling Euro scooter forums for horror-story restorations of Ameri-bodges.
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I'll hold my amusement for a few more years, when we can start trolling Euro scooter forums for horror-story restorations of Ameri-bodges.
ROFL emoticon ROFL emoticon ROFL emoticon
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I'll hold my amusement for a few more years, when we can start trolling Euro scooter forums for horror-story restorations of Ameri-bodges.
If a Mod/Scooter Scene person touched it. Probably bodgey.

But there were lots of those in the UK. I think that's the market for the expensive bikes there. Mod Life Crisis.
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These are always sad.

Someone parting out a P. And they think they have a goldmine.
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These are always sad.

Someone parting out a P. And they think they have a goldmine.
I've had more people tell me "that thing has gotta be worth some money because on American Pickers......"
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