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Just posted here in Atlantic Beach, Fl. for $3500

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/714304436618699/
That belongs over in this thread.
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That belongs over in this thread.
Lol.
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Fair deal for a well kept Stella. I'd hate to ravage such a nice one for parts.
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That belongs over in this thread.
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Just posted here in Atlantic Beach, Fl. for $3500

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/714304436618699/
Dude that's a bodge. Ain't nothing 1961 on that thing.

Your first post and you bring a bodge to the party for deal of the day? Does it look pretty to you?
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Is this the red one?

This is also probably salvageable, but looks like it has an inch of bondo to make it look vintage.

But a complete engine for $1000 might be ok.

The asymmetrical mounted taillight is so strange!

https://sfbay.craigslist.org/scz/mcy/d/mountain-view-1979-vespa/7442886039.html
you could also climb Mount Everest all it takes is money and time and the sole focus on completing the task. but then you could say you did it.

with this, it'd be like spending all that time and money and hard work to say that you walked down to the circle K
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Dude that's a bodge. Ain't nothing 1961 on that thing.

Your first post and you bring a bodge to the party for deal of the day? Does it look pretty to you?
The only thing "61" is the number of wrecks welded together to make one ball of bondo.
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Welcome to MV guzzi.

$3,500? In Deal of the Day? *Cough*... Hard pass ..
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fresh import from Planet Vespa lol.

At least he's not trying to sell it for $8000.

Been lurking for a while, this site is a great resource and very helpful in my P125 build.

Thanks!
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At least he's not trying to sell it for $8000.
True, true....
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with this, it'd be like spending all that time and money and hard work to say that you walked down to the circle K
I have an unhealthy obsession with lost causes. But one at a time.

Saving these things from the junk yard ... is ... something?
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Just posted here in Atlantic Beach, Fl. for $3500

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/714304436618699/
Honestly surprised it doesn't have a P series brake pedal like most of them do
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Honestly surprised it doesn't have a P series brake pedal like most of them do
That's usually done when the tunnel is rotted out and not able to hold the original brake peg. That when the option to cut a hole in the floor and install a P brake pedal.
There's a guy on here that put the brake peg back on his bodge when he replaced the floors.
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That's usually done when the tunnel is rotted out and not able to hold the original brake peg. That when the option to cut a hole in the floor and install a P brake pedal.
Learned something new.
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I have an unhealthy obsession with lost causes. But one at a time.

Saving these things from the junk yard ... is ... something?
I think we all have this sickness. Ha
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this was a decent deal when it was posted for $1500 a month or so back. PX125. Paint looks like a poor respray, missing some floor rails. A solid honest bike, would make a nice runabout or whatnot.

now flipping at $3k - not so much a deal. Hell I sold my shiny P200 for less!

https://sandiego.craigslist.org/csd/mcy/d/san-diego-1979-vespa-px125/7448393177.html
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Looks like a good project, but a little spendy for what is is. IIRC, Cushman was the importer for a few years although they only badged them for a year or two. My my 1963 VNB4T is a "Cushman Vespa". Doesn't add any value.
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Hmmm, I don't know if I'd go for it for a few reasons.

Price
Repainted - I like the color though so not a show stopper
Engine - is it stock? Electronic Ignition?
Front fork made into a VBB yet?
Paperwork?
Price...

Ad feels a bit puffed up in the chest, which I guess is better than three words, but still, that turns me off...

But I agree with BirdsNest - it looks like a good project. Expect to pay a grand if the engine isn't kitted and no electronic ignition and fork upgrade. Then 3 bills in paperwork (Vermont reg then your state).

Keep us informed on what you decide to do!
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Looks like a good project, but a little spendy for what is is. IIRC, Cushman was the importer for a few years although they only badged them for a year or two. My my 1963 VNB4T is a "Cushman Vespa". Doesn't add any value.
yeah, could be a fun build to finish. Green is off putting for most, but I like it. Needs more money thrown at it to finish; Probably another 1-1500 to finish. Extra spares are nice to have, but nothing really very valuable there. Cushman badged is cool, but worth $3400, not really

Title is missing, or out of system-or $$$$ in Cali back fees. Makes a big difference. take off about 1500 from the listing and you're in range, but that missing paperwork in cali sux.

I hate puffed up ad's like this. As Gas said-extremely offputting. S"special surprise" what a joke - just tell us what you have jeez
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meh. pass at that price.

like GL said, you're 1-1.5 out from finishing that, plus paperwork.

if you walk it back, what's this bike worth done, riding, reg'd and ready to roll on it's best day? 45 maybe?

you could sell the spare motor and cases and recoup a few hundo, maybe adios some other stuff too and that'd put a dent in the price.

this is a project for somebody that has the technical know how, expertise, a garage with spares and the time and tenacity. terrible first vintage vespa for anybody.

"special bonus" is speedo, an accessory or P2 motor
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P series bikes make great first forays into vintage ownership. super/sprints and VBB's do as well.

parts are abundant and cheap, they're easy to work on, there's tons knowledge and resources out there.

that's where you want to start with a complete running, riding bike. there will be plenty of projects to tackle with just that.

save the rare, weird and project deals for later on down the line.

also, you have to own it and ride it for a year before you take it apart to paint it.
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It's funny that when ever the word "rare" gets included in the mix, the price gets jacked up another grand.
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I'd need to see more pics, but the price isn't outrageous from the get go.

but figure on tires, tubes, a battery, probably a soft parts engine rebuild in the near future plus whatever other chicanery and you're easily into the 3K territory.

I'd hold off till more pics and depending on "runs good" that might be an okay deal.
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Hey skids,

I'm with Greasy on this.

One time I went to check out a nice scooter for a fair price. A little scuff on the front fender. No big deal, until I took it for a test run.

I didn't even get to the end of the block before I turned around. The thing was pulling to the side something fierce. I can only imagine that little scuff bent the steering tube.

I passed on the scooter and the guy looked surprised and told me "it's always done that". Yeah, right...

Anyway, one pic and needs body work. Hmmmm
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Skids - your choice of scooter really depends on what your intentions are. You keep mentioning 'resto-mod', which can have different definitions for everyone. A P-series, VBB, and GS160 are all very different machines; mechanically and esthetically. What are your plans? A P-series scoot is a great first vintage ride. Not too expensive in the marketplace, mechanically they are the most advanced, and parts to keep it in tip-top shape are readily available. A GS is a beautiful machine, and you gotta pay-to-play as they say. It really comes down to pin pointing what your goals are, that will get you going in the right direction.
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I am OK with it needing a little work like tires, tubes,etc. Even the engine, it is a 44 year old scoot.
The fact that a scooter is "44 years old" is pretty much irrelevant with these things.
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It used to be that a "resto mod" vehicle (2 or 4 wheels) was something old that has been restored to modern technology...such as hydro disc, electric start, fast engine, variable ignition, 12VDC power, bright lights, modern tires, modern wheels/rims ALL hidden under a VERY nice period correct paint job. Apparently there has been so many offshore (SEA) YouTube videos out there that show how to "restore" a crusty rusty junkyard Vespa into a bodge, that the common non vehicle aficionado who lives in a 1st world nation thinks that a restore is now a spritzer bottle of ArmorAll, a tin of Simoniz, and a handful of Scotch-lock connectors.
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Skids - your choice of scooter really depends on what your intentions are. You keep mentioning 'resto-mod', which can have different definitions for everyone. A P-series, VBB, and GS160 are all very different machines; mechanically and esthetically. What are your plans? A P-series scoot is a great first vintage ride. Not too expensive in the marketplace, mechanically they are the most advanced, and parts to keep it in tip-top shape are readily available. A GS is a beautiful machine, and you gotta pay-to-play as they say. It really comes down to pin pointing what your goals are, that will get you going in the right direction.
I'd like to add that something like a GS or an SS or handlebar or odd-duck early thing is more about a love affair of the machine than "I really like scooters" kinda deal. everybody wants a GS or SS so no blame there.

could you put a P motor into any of that stuff, sure. but it's not the same. it's like if you dropped a LS into an OG 327/4spd vette and painted it some modern color. a Rochester injected 375hp 4spd combo and classic color is what *made* that car what it was.

we're in an amazing time right now. there's electric conversions rapidly approaching, there's more parts of all types available than EVER before but you can't forget what made these machines so special. simple, basic, easy to work on timeless machines.

is a 65 barracuda with a 6.2 gen 3 hemi and 6spd rad as hell? you betcha. but that same 65 barracuda with a 273 commando 4V and 4spd is a different cut. it makes you appreciate it more. you have to drive it, you have to work on it, you have to develop a relationship with it.
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OK so I found another one. I sent the guy an email with my phone number requesting more information about exactly how much body work it needs and some more pictures.

According to the scooterlounge buyers guide which I have this forum to thank for the link the asking is in the ballpark. Thoughts from the collective group please.

https://sfbay.craigslist.org/nby/mcy/d/guerneville-vespa-1978-p200e/7452458234.html
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P series bikes have always been the iconic vintage scooter for me, even though I know they are not for most people.

The p200 was always the ultimate for me because I really had no knowledge of older models or even seen a vintage scooter up close until I bought my vbb over the summer.
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Very interested. I have been advised here in the forum to start with that as an introduction to "vintage vespa" and it sounds like good advice.

Looking for a running driving straight something I could use as a daily driver but don't mind dings or rough appearance, actually prefer something that works correctly but shows its age.
For your consideration -

The bike:
https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/4568833069895142/?ref=search&referral_code=marketplace_search&referral_story_type=post&tracking=browse_serp%3Aba897ae1-14f7-464d-9ea5-f9301c2665a1


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