Modern Vespa

There's also some "go-fast" parts for the older wide body motors. Check with Gickpeed, he'd know if you could get that motor street worthy.

I don't think there is a motor in it from pictures.

I like how the motor side cowl off picture is taken from the other side (WHY THO??)

yeah... oops sorry. You are right. I didn't go through the advert just looked at the main pic KMF posted.

So, the thing with fitting a largeframe engine into a widebody scooter is this - 99% of the time the body has to be cut-hacked-hammered out for it to fit. The large frame engine and the original widebody engine are just so different in terms of size and placement. Its not a one size fits all, and it's really not a quick swap at all. It can be done, but not without great effort, skills, time, and money; and only by making permananent changes to the frame and parts.

These handlebar Allstate's are getting harder to find in any condition... I bet Gick has an spare engine on the shelf for this. There are many options to make the OG motor plenty fast for modern roads

woof. pass.

even at 450 that's hammered. AND you gotta find a motor. then cable it and wire it. nah. ever cabled and wired a handlebar? fuck. and that.

unless you have and dabble in handlebars? no no and no.

and this even assumes that all the controls work properly and aren't fucked out or locked up.

then, motor. which... Ffffff...

Yeah.... not only is that thing speaking my language, It's in my dialect. Low and slow and all hoppity if the front is just a specific jam.

I'll take all of them please.

I'm the one who's swapping in a p200 Largeframe engine into a Wideframe. It's definitely not the easiest of conversions. From what I understand, a 200 engine CAN be fitted without slicing and dicing the frame, but it involves using an aftermarket intake manifold and carb...along with whatever else it takes that I don't know about. I'm having to hack the heck out of my Wideframe to get the 200 engine to fit. That being said, a 150 engine block would fit MUCH easier than a 200. It will still require modifications. Voodoo has successfully swapped a 150 into a Wideframe.

I thought P200 and P150 motors used the same block? I was thinking a 150 LML 2t motor. I saw where someone used a long pipe and mounted carburetor in box under seat.

same cases, but top ends are different and fit slightly differently. P200 is a tighter fit up against the frame and the exhaust comes out at a different angle.

The P series 150 case has a much smaller diameter swingarm than a 200. The shape and diameter of the 150 cylinder (kitted or not) is also more compact than than a 200. Both of those particulars work against installing a 200 engine in a Wideframe (besides many other things as well).

Who wants an early small door Smallframe? Rolling project needs work (dont they all!). Includes 2 (two) engines & a few more spares.

Full disclosure - this is my own advertisement for my advertisement. Posting here to MV before anywhere else. I'd love to see this go to one of You. Dont be shy. Lets make a deal

https://modernvespa.com/forum/post2546665#2546665

I probs know a taker- I'll send him your way

Thanks D!!

This breaks my heart cause I'm headed out of state in 2 days and worked now till then.. otherwise I would jump on this in a second!! They always pop up at the worst possible time.

https://worcester.craigslist.org/mpo/d/burlington-1961-vespa-speed-scooter/7485009694.html



$750

Although if someone wanted to... I would send them cash to go grab it and hold it for 3 weeks till im back!

Man I want that tire for a spare!

So good.

That's not a bad price, but you gotta love the way he uses a concourse GS' price to imply his pile o' VBB's potential restored price.

I mean.

Not really deals, but there are two bikes locally that are long-time scooter people who are giving them up bc they're getting too old to ride them.

$10k rally is nice but the price - can it make it?

That P will sell for sure at that price.

I sent a message to the person with the Rally, suggesting he sell it on consignment.

I've seen that bike on rides in SF. And he posted about it here.

It's kind of sad. He had it all restored, but didn't seem to ride it. Just put into storage.

https://modernvespa.com/forum/post1232995#1232995

It's a beautiful bike. I'm not sure where the upper end for Rally 200's is at the moment. Would I think he could fetch $7k? yeah. 8 or 9k? don't know. 10k? I doubt it.

I would cover those costs in parts if someone wants to part it out and maybe keep the motor/frame/fork etc. Its tempting to buy it outright, but I already have run out of room...

Well… on the off chance anyone here buys that hit me up for the tire by itself and I will pay a fair price for that bit of tat alone.

My issue is the distance. My back and neck wouldn't hold up well with a 12hr round trip drive.

Smallframe 90 has been sold. BIG thanks to Dsnyder for facilitating.

Maybe not deal.. but if legit it's a find..

1985 T5 $4500

https://m.facebook.com/marketplace/item/5251751484847044/

Exactly what I was looking for my pork chop Express theme, right year and model, but way above my price range!

Anyone near Rochester?

Another sweet deal that's too damn far from me!!! Wish it was half the distance from Philly.

https://rochester.craigslist.org/mpo/d/scottsville-cc-vespa-diy-project/7472883892.html

That frame is toast

I'd want to see more pics of the frame - it all looks like surface rust to me (but some is deeper pitting on the butt). The cowl has rot through, though, so they may be hiding similar on the underside or other side of the frame

Thanks for the second look. I looked right past those issues!

I don't see an E start button. And since it's registered as an early 1985 model (and a digital tach), I'm guessing that it's also a premix model as well. If that T5 had both E start, autolube, AND the later analog tach, then I could see it possibly sell for somewhat closer to that asking price. Then again, when was the last time anyone has seen a T5 for sale in the US?

That bike looks nice.

Bello Moto has one they're selling for $10k.

But they price their bikes so high that they stay for sale for years.

Haha 10k!! And probably no history?? Just that it's an Italian restoration. Maybe I should ship my T5 there and ask for 15k since I have documented everything…

You could try!

T5s are rare here, bc they were never imported.

Bello Moto ships bikes over from Italian resto shops, that are decent quality.

It's interesting how people are shipping bikes back to Europe from here, and there are shops here shipping from Europe, as European spec bikes.

Bello Moto doesn't really seem to sell many bikes. They have a TON of them, and all the collectible models, but they price them for super rich collectors, and I don't know that there are many of those.

They really seem to be hoping that a VS4 GS is eventually like a 1950s Ferrari, and fetching a million dollars.

Nah, I'm not selling. Maybe, if I'm ever in desperate need of money…
Saw the photos of the T5, that's not a 10k scooter…

That place is like that.

They have so many bikes! And they're all whatever models are considered the most collectible.

They are asking concours restoration prices, but the restorations are so/so. They're like correct paint codes and overall look, but then not super high quality. Cheap aftermarket parts, etc.

It's this weird hoarding den. It looks like what they're doing is waiting for these bikes to appreciate.

You are probably not far off.

5 years ago a 180SS fetches what? $3k? 4K mint? Now close to 20K. Multiply that times 100 scoots. Raise the prices and keep em just above market, then keep whatever you want to sell lower. NOw wait 20 years and retire to the Cayman islands in style.

Step 3=Profit. Not my bag, but that's likely whats happening.

Isn't that lml hand grips? I smell me an lml t5!