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Isn't that lml hand grips? I smell me an lml t5!
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swiss1939 wrote: Isn't that lml hand grips? I smell me an lml t5! |
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SaFiS wrote: No, they're the correct ones for the model, but worn out. Engine's definitely a T5 too. They could have paid better attention to details with that asking price… |
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GeekLion wrote: Agreed, that is not a $10k restoration. Still a cool scooter, but not 100 point concours by any means NOTE: my comment is not meant to be directed to Bar Italia in any way, shape, or form. It was directed to whoever painted the scooter. |
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whodatschrome wrote: The red overspray on the fork (between the bottom of the horn cast and the top of the fender) is driving me crazy. Since day one with me being into vintage scooters, a sloppily painted (or restored) fork on a Vespa or lambretta with even a halfway decent paint job has been a huge pet peeve of mine. To me it's similar to dressing in REALLY nice high end clothes...while wearing old worn out tennis shoes. No matter how nice the clothes look, my eyes will wander down to those crappy kicks. NOTE: my comment is not meant to be directed to Bar Italia in any way, shape, or form. It was directed to whoever painted the scooter. |
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hjo wrote: That bike looks nice. Bello Moto has one they're selling for $10k. But they price their bikes so high that they stay for sale for years. |
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FridayMatinee wrote: In regards to blacking out the plates, quick and easy to find an address through a plate search. I don't want no random creeps showing up at my house! |
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Their typical crack smoking price. Yeah, I saw it in person at their shop when they were asking $8600. Didn't have the wheel covers. I guess adding the covers increased the price by $625. You can import a pretty clean one for 1/4 the price give or take.
hjo wrote: That bike looks nice. Bello Moto has one they're selling for $10k. But they price their bikes so high that they stay for sale for years. |
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hjo wrote: It's this weird hoarding den. It looks like what they're doing is waiting for these bikes to ![]() And while it's no "leaving the motor in while they did it," nothing says, "Half-ass resto job" like not even bothering to re-paint the shifter marks. ![]() |
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Erm. On the one hand, giant money pit. On the other hand, It's a mostly complete '56 handlebar for $200... surely there are multiple parts on this worth 200 to someone
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this has fill a five gallon bucket full of $20 bills and burn it written all over it with a side of frustration and heartache.
or you could do this: for everyday that you own this until you sell it put $5 in a container. when you sell it, if it's a running, riding decently presentable scooter. what you sold it for plus all of those 5's? congrats, you broke even. conversely, you could part it for probably 3K-ish
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greasy125 wrote: this has fill a five gallon bucket full of $20 bills and burn it written all over it with a side of frustration and heartache. or you could do this: for everyday that you own this until you sell it put $5 in a container. when you sell it, if it's a running, riding decently presentable scooter. what you sold it for plus all of those 5's? congrats, you broke even. conversely, you could part it for probably 3K-ish
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I would buy this if it were closer. And spend like the rest of my life fixing it.
Interesting. All these old bikes in the eastern US. In California, we mostly have 1970s bikes. |
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GickSpeed wrote: Knowing what i know, you will be thousands into getting this on the road. however, you will be one cool MF'er. if you peddled in wide body, and had a stash of parts? sure. but if not? you jumping into the deep deep end of the pool with both feet before testing the water. |
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greasy125 wrote: dude, you're an expert in the field and it pleases me that I thought the same. a little validation! but just seeing that the fan shroud is missing? that means that the cylinder shroud is most likely too. and the carb? woof. there's like 5~6 hundo easy. then ALL the other shit... to make this start and run and put it on the road would easily be 2K if you peddled in wide body, and had a stash of parts? sure. but if not? you jumping into the deep deep end of the pool with both feet before testing the water. All this can be done and it's enjoyable, it's just that WB bikes are not for everyone.
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greasy125 wrote: this has fill a five gallon bucket full of $20 bills and burn it written all over it with a side of frustration and heartache. or ... ![]() |
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Gone by now I'd bet…
One like that listed in Houston about 4 years ago for 750… in much worse shape though. I almost got it! I ended up buying a white P frame from the kid that bought it about a year ago. It was a cool surprise to see who snagged it. Scoot was easily identifiable by the patina. ⚠️ Last edited by Birdsnest on UTC; edited 1 time
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Tierney wrote: It's real because it is located 1,000 + miles away from anyone that wants it. |
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Birdsnest wrote: Would drive for that one! kajiit this is birbs. over. *click* birbs I read you loud and clear. over. *click* located asset. need assistance on extraction. over. *click* Rodger. txt LZ. fueling taco. acquiring turbo juice. over. *click* copy. copy. bring Doritos. over and out. *click* 10-4 ~end transmission~ |
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greasy125 wrote: go buy it immediately. |
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https://atlanta.craigslist.org/nat/mcy/d/woodstock-1959-allstate-cruisaire-vna/7489455468.html
Hard to tell how much bondo is under that glossy blue paint. I'm going to go see it for kicks 'cause it's close. [/img] ![]() |
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I don't think it has much bondo on it--looks like some small dents were just left in place and painted--but whoever did the work didn't know Vespas. Screws holding the floor rail caps, improvised or otherwise mis-installed outer floor rails. the zip tie mis-running the front brake cable, probably some other stuff. Looks like the original metal VIN plate under the fuel tap, though, so that's a good sign at least.
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chandlerman wrote: Looks like the original metal VIN plate under the fuel tap, though, so that's a good sign at least. |
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Mod Eric The Skin wrote: https://atlanta.craigslist.org/nat/mcy/d/woodstock-1959-allstate-cruisaire-vna/7489455468.html Hard to tell how much bondo is under that glossy blue paint. I'm going to go see it for kicks 'cause it's close. [/img] no title, lights are iffy, 3spd. meh. for 12~15 you could probably pick up and OG paint 4spd bike that mostly works the same. the paint looks nice. but then again, anything painted chevy marina blue looks nice, even a 66 Malibu. |
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greasy125 wrote: the paint looks nice. but then again, anything painted chevy marina blue looks nice, even a 66 Malibu. |
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chandlerman wrote: Other than the two spots that he fixed the scrapes with a magic marker. |
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Doesn't look too bad! You can see all the seams, and they left a lot of dents/holes.
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Neat.
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xantufrog wrote: Curious to see what you find - I was scratching my chin about that one's story It was 95+% complete when I got it, but had been painted poorly using a Plymouth blue metal flake. I stripped it down, almost zero rust but several sheet metal cracks. I had a retired Ford/Mercury auto body man prep and paint it using a Honda blue metal flake with clear coat top. I "restored" it and cleaned all metal fasteners, aluminum handles, etc. and reused everything original that I could. All rubber, cables, tires/tubes, wiring harness, etc. we're replaced with Piaggio, Bajaj, or equivalent NOS parts. Motor was rebuilt by a scooter shop in Illinois. Tank interior was blasted and coated but has light surface rust now since I drained the fuel years ago. I found a Harley upholstery guy outside of Cleveland, OH who removed the old horse hair stuffing and crafted a custom black leather seat using original frame. I saved the old muffler, rear shock and spring, and misc parts. The only major part I replaced was the front fork. It's a Bajaj replacement that has a shock. As you may know, the original Sears Allstate models were shipped with no shock in the front and that combined with the 8" diameter wheels made riding it on the street a nerve wracking experience. It has one original Vespa key that unlocks the front wheel. |
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Mod Eric The Skin wrote: From the owner: I purchased it from the 2nd or 3rd owner in 1998. He was a ticket broker here in Georgia, said he found the scooter in the back of a record shop in Mississippi and bought it on the spot "as is". I do not have a title for it. I had it tagged in Cobb County once I showed them proof of insurance. It was 95+% complete when I got it, but had been painted poorly using a Plymouth blue metal flake. I stripped it down, almost zero rust but several sheet metal cracks. I had a retired Ford/Mercury auto body man prep and paint it using a Honda blue metal flake with clear coat top. I "restored" it and cleaned all metal fasteners, aluminum handles, etc. and reused everything original that I could. All rubber, cables, tires/tubes, wiring harness, etc. we're replaced with Piaggio, Bajaj, or equivalent NOS parts. Motor was rebuilt by a scooter shop in Illinois. Tank interior was blasted and coated but has light surface rust now since I drained the fuel years ago. I found a Harley upholstery guy outside of Cleveland, OH who removed the old horse hair stuffing and crafted a custom black leather seat using original frame. I saved the old muffler, rear shock and spring, and misc parts. The only major part I replaced was the front fork. It's a Bajaj replacement that has a shock. As you may know, the original Sears Allstate models were shipped with no shock in the front and that combined with the 8" diameter wheels made riding it on the street a nerve wracking experience. It has one original Vespa key that unlocks the front wheel. |
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Not a steal but a pretty clean euro p125x (not sure actual year, but the pics are nice all around)
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