Modern Vespa

No, they're the correct ones for the model, but worn out. Engine's definitely a T5 too. They could have paid better attention to details with that asking price…

Agreed, that is not a $10k restoration. Still a cool scooter, but not 100 point concours by any means

The red overspray on the fork (between the bottom of the horn cast and the top of the fender) is driving me crazy. Since day one with me being into vintage scooters, a sloppily painted (or restored) fork on a Vespa or lambretta with even a halfway decent paint job has been a huge pet peeve of mine. To me it's similar to dressing in REALLY nice high end clothes...while wearing old worn out tennis shoes. No matter how nice the clothes look, my eyes will wander down to those crappy kicks.


NOTE: my comment is not meant to be directed to Bar Italia in any way, shape, or form. It was directed to whoever painted the scooter.

Agreed, and understood. Dirty shoes (forks) and overspray in general is an eye sore.

In regards to blacking out the plates, quick and easy to find an address through a plate search. I don't want no random creeps showing up at my house!

...which is why I remove my plate each and every time I park my scooter either on a sidewalk or pirate a metered parking spot without paying.

Their typical crack smoking price. Yeah, I saw it in person at their shop when they were asking $8600. Didn't have the wheel covers. I guess adding the covers increased the price by $625. You can import a pretty clean one for 1/4 the price give or take.

FTFY

And while it's no "leaving the motor in while they did it," nothing says, "Half-ass resto job" like not even bothering to re-paint the shifter marks.

Erm. On the one hand, giant money pit. On the other hand, It's a mostly complete '56 handlebar for $200... surely there are multiple parts on this worth 200 to someone

this has fill a five gallon bucket full of $20 bills and burn it written all over it with a side of frustration and heartache.

or you could do this: for everyday that you own this until you sell it put $5 in a container. when you sell it, if it's a running, riding decently presentable scooter. what you sold it for plus all of those 5's? congrats, you broke even.

conversely, you could part it for probably 3K-ish

Knowing what i know, you will be thousands into getting this on the road. however, you will be one cool MF'er.

I would buy this if it were closer. And spend like the rest of my life fixing it.

Interesting. All these old bikes in the eastern US. In California, we mostly have 1970s bikes.

dude, you're an expert in the field and it pleases me that I thought the same. a little validation! but just seeing that the fan shroud is missing? that means that the cylinder shroud is most likely too. and the carb? woof. there's like 5~6 hundo easy. then ALL the other shit... to make this start and run and put it on the road would easily be 2K

if you peddled in wide body, and had a stash of parts? sure. but if not? you jumping into the deep deep end of the pool with both feet before testing the water.

The floorails of this Allstate are missing. that is $500 if you are lucky for a complete set. You would be better off buying a $1500.00 project that is complete and stuff an additional 2k in it for a stock bike. Pinasco or CC Corsa setup (modern day traffic), add 2k just in parts. Then you have a nice patina driver. Restoration? add another 2-3K in body work & paint.

All this can be done and it's enjoyable, it's just that WB bikes are not for everyone.

you could stuff a spare 150 rotary valve large frame motor in there, sort the front end, cables, tires and brakes, now scrub it good and dose it with some Ospho and then wax it up nicely - cheapo delicious rat rod if it's not all rusted out and you have a half ass motor laying around. No gas tank is your biggest challenge. Just don't hack it up with anything irreversible please ?

This can't be real/not stolen?

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/584859719638244/

It's real because it is located 1,000 + miles away from anyone that wants it.

Gone by now I'd bet…


One like that listed in Houston about 4 years ago for 750… in much worse shape though.

I almost got it! I ended up buying a white P frame from the kid that bought it about a year ago. It was a cool surprise to see who snagged it. Scoot was easily identifiable by the patina.

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Would drive for that one!

Screenshot before his inbox explodes and the post gets deleted…

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~end transmission~

Well, I want it and it's 30 miles from me....

Get after it!!!

They raised the price to 2k - but still a deal. Go get it!

go buy it immediately.

Price raised and already has someone coming to get it.

https://atlanta.craigslist.org/nat/mcy/d/woodstock-1959-allstate-cruisaire-vna/7489455468.html

Hard to tell how much bondo is under that glossy blue paint. I'm going to go see it for kicks 'cause it's close.
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Curious to see what you find - I was scratching my chin about that one's story

I don't think it has much bondo on it--looks like some small dents were just left in place and painted--but whoever did the work didn't know Vespas. Screws holding the floor rail caps, improvised or otherwise mis-installed outer floor rails. the zip tie mis-running the front brake cable, probably some other stuff. Looks like the original metal VIN plate under the fuel tap, though, so that's a good sign at least.

Painted over, though - seems awfully sloppy to me to do that. But 1200 is increasingly "le cheap" these days

take 1K in cash.

no title, lights are iffy, 3spd. meh. for 12~15 you could probably pick up and OG paint 4spd bike that mostly works the same.

the paint looks nice. but then again, anything painted chevy marina blue looks nice, even a 66 Malibu.

Other than the two spots that he fixed the scrapes with a magic marker.

*ALLEGEDLY*

Doesn't look too bad! You can see all the seams, and they left a lot of dents/holes.

There's one clumpy bondo spot here.

Neat.

Waffle brake pedal
Choke built into the seat
Someone already upgraded the pogo stick fork

From the owner: I purchased it from the 2nd or 3rd owner in 1998. He was a ticket broker here in Georgia, said he found the scooter in the back of a record shop in Mississippi and bought it on the spot "as is". I do not have a title for it. I had it tagged in Cobb County once I showed them proof of insurance.

It was 95+% complete when I got it, but had been painted poorly using a Plymouth blue metal flake. I stripped it down, almost zero rust but several sheet metal cracks. I had a retired Ford/Mercury auto body man prep and paint it using a Honda blue metal flake with clear coat top.

I "restored" it and cleaned all metal fasteners, aluminum handles, etc. and reused everything original that I could. All rubber, cables, tires/tubes, wiring harness, etc. we're replaced with Piaggio, Bajaj, or equivalent NOS parts.

Motor was rebuilt by a scooter shop in Illinois. Tank interior was blasted and coated but has light surface rust now since I drained the fuel years ago. I found a Harley upholstery guy outside of Cleveland, OH who removed the old horse hair stuffing and crafted a custom black leather seat using original frame.

I saved the old muffler, rear shock and spring, and misc parts. The only major part I replaced was the front fork. It's a Bajaj replacement that has a shock. As you may know, the original Sears Allstate models were shipped with no shock in the front and that combined with the 8" diameter wheels made riding it on the street a nerve wracking experience. It has one original Vespa key that unlocks the front wheel.

Not bad - sounds like a legit bike that's just seen a few things (few haven't I reckon!). You gonna bite?

Grab it! it's not bad at all! Definitely worth it for the price.

Not a steal but a pretty clean euro p125x (not sure actual year, but the pics are nice all around)