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I never get speedos barely showing mileage. What'd they do - ride it, or push it around the block a few times?

I barely got the speedo in the Allstate working and it's already over 1,000 Vespa units. Can't call them miles cause it's so inaccurate.
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I never get speedos barely showing mileage. What'd they do - ride it, or push it around the block a few times?

I barely got the speedo in the Allstate working and it's already over 1,000 Vespa units. Can't call them miles cause it's so inaccurate.
Yeah, I put on 80+ miles yesterday just roughing in carburetor setup. It's a calibrated SIP speedometer so I can call it miles.
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I mean, would you want to ride a bodge far?
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I mean, would you want to ride a bodge far?
Like that's even an option.
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Curious as to what this is? Should maybe be in bodgespotting thread not this one?

https://sfbay.craigslist.org/scz/mcy/d/mountain-view-1979-vespa-p200e/7489515974.html
That thing keeps turning up like a bad penny.
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...Body and motor from 1979 with some parts from an older model. Has the retro body style and almost everything there to get back on the road.

The motor is all there and fully in tact. Just needs a speedometer, headlight, and a few accessories. ...
Huh! If that motor is any good... If there's no serious rust, gobs of Bondo or bent frame... what frame and headset is this, sure aint no P ? But the Rally200 was made thru 1979, could this be a diamond in the rough??? Somebody call and get the VIN!

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Huh! If that motor is any good... If there's no serious rust, gobs of Bondo or bent frame... what frame and headset is this, sure aint no P ? But the Rally200 was made thru 1979, could this be a diamond in the rough??? Somebody call and get the VIN!

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Definitely a P frame as indicated by the tail/cowl securing points. Rest is who knows
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Hmm... Metal horncast on a rare P frame w/ no blinkers? And I don't think those cowls are P or Rally ("... with some parts from an older model"), but the pic is vague and who knows how they are stuck on there. They look like they are maybe too far forward.

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Hmm... Metal horncast on a rare P frame w/ no blinkers? And I don't think those cowls are P or Rally ("... with some parts from an older model"), but the pic is vague and who knows how they are stuck on there. They look like they are maybe too far forward.

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Look at the filler back of left cowl.

You would need some walnut shell blasting media and a few hours to see what's under all that white paint.
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Here are Rally and blinkerless P cowls from a similar angle to compare:
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Here are Rally and blinkerless P cowls from a similar angle to compare:
It doesn't look to have any body lines in cowl like either of those.
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I can't figure out those cowls and can't see other side, but if it's a P200 frame, somebody went to a LOT of work on that horncast. I wonder what fork it has? SOMEBODY call this guy, just not me coz I'm NOT in the market!!!
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ah! the shitty Frankenstein reappears, yet again!

this this is hot garbage. P cowls with whatever farmer/artist work on them (bondo) along with a WTF horncast that's been stitched on with a headset that's more than likely locked up.

it was painted all red. then painted white and relisted. look at the work, painted right over the switches. top quality brush work.

from the previous photos, some of the motor was disassembled and looked rusty and or missing.

so basically, you're buying a pile of parts. what's a set of P cases worth? a front fork? maybe a tank and a frame with no paper work?

that's *maybe* 500 worth of stuff if you have a giant hard-on for a P2 motor. sell off the other bits for maybe 150 or so. crumble up the rest and throw it in the dumpster.
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take a few hundy off... Hollywood Holt the Mofo and go.

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that's 5 hundo allll dayyyy errryyyy day!

I'd scoop that and spend a weekend at kajiit custom & color blowing that bish with some rattle bomb. then cable it, wire it, tack some donuts on, and roll. and when somebody asks to buy it when I'm out riding- SELL IMMEDIATELY

(if the war department fell in love with it, I'd knock in a P125/LML motor and adios the stocker for a few doubloons and hang on to it-- her choice of color)
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that's 5 hundo allll dayyyy errryyyy day!

I'd scoop that and spend a weekend at kajiit custom & color blowing that bish with some rattle bomb. then cable it, wire it, tack some donuts on, and roll. and when somebody asks to buy it when I'm out riding- SELL IMMEDIATELY

(if the war department fell in love with it, I'd knock in a P125/LML motor and adios the stocker for a few doubloons and hang on to it-- her choice of color)
fork and chassis bent? maybe optical illusion?
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fork and chassis bent? maybe optical illusion?
fork looks okay? unless the dog leg and stem are supposed to be parallel?

but you gave me pause, and I looked closer. what's up with the horncast? it looks.... odd?

aside from that, I think it looks weird because the headset is just on it without a fork. if it took that much damage, I'd suspect we'd see some taco action on the tunnel and there's no wavy gravy there.

interesting to be sure. if it was local, I'd be peeping it like a one eyed cat in a seafood store.
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fork looks okay? unless the dog leg and stem are supposed to be perpendicular?



but you gave me pause, and I looked closer. what's up with the horncast? it looks.... odd?

aside from that, I think it looks weird because the headset is just on it without a fork. if it took that much damage, I'd suspect we'd see some taco action on the tunnel and there's no wavy gravy there.

interesting to be sure. if it was local, I'd be peeping it like a one eyed cat in a seafood store.
dog leg and stem are to be parallel.

anyone looking at this bike will need to look closely.
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That's a VBA body and Sprint head set?
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That's a VBA body and Sprint head set?
Definitely a 1970s headset.
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I'd do that at full list price.
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I'd do that at full list price.
Kajjit South can pick up and store.
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I've already got an untitled VBB in bits 🤣
same lol, in need of a chassis as well.
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dog leg and stem are to be parallel.

anyone looking at this bike will need to look closely.
thanks for the heads up. I didn't know that!

after looking at the pics, surprisingly there's none from the front and seeing that edge of the horncast I'd guess this got smashed pretty good. the primer is a red herring.

tape measure and granular knowledge in person might make it a buy, but at well less than the asking.

still worth 5 on a motor, a tank and some other bits.
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Caw, caw…goes the sound of vultures circling them bleached bones…
if you in it long enuff, we all been burned my dude.

rather it not happen to a compadre.
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if you in it long enuff, we all been burned my dude.

rather it not happen to a compadre.
That is a huge help.
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I need cowls and muguard along with a few other bits- I know I sound like a broken record, but I'll go halfsies if anyone needs other stuff like motor etc. I can retrieve the parts via a courier son in law going to h town weekly
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If someone wants to cut the fork off above the shock, I could use pieces on my VNA, stripped Allstate.
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Nice looking bike, but $4500 is a bit rich for my blood. It seems prices are going up, up, up. A little work and this lo mile P200 for $2900 could look just as good and has the bigger motor. Plus you could haul a lot of freight!
https://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/mcy/d/portland-1979-p200-vespa-25k-miles-new/7483324513.html

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I was thinking the same thing. A bit steep for my blood, er, wallet...
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