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I am struggling with this. It's very tempting.

The stock P. Love it.
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Consider it a smart investment, just in fun to have a bike NOT in pieces that you can ride. But also hard to imagine how you could get upsidedown on the money end unless the motor is wrecked. Seller says nothing about it running, just lots of enticing pictures - Give them a call to help you decide!!! Stubborn emoticon
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If somebody hasn't already bought it I am greatly disappointed. Go get it!!
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I'll call about it tomorrow. It seems like a really good price.

Even if it needs a new crank or top end or whatever.

I'm guessing it runs and has a title if it's in a shop.

Looks like a perfect bike to ride around. I really miss riding. And I'm taking forever to build my rally.

I actually like p200s the best of any vespa. The suspension and electrical systems are so much better.
I sold my beater p200, which was actually pretty nice. But not perfect. I miss it.
I sold my beater p200, which was actually pretty nice. But not perfect. I miss it.
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All the chrome accessories and the white wall tires, could it be a bodge? Classic signs
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One of my friends is wanting a Vespa. Good thing that P200 wasn't posted up two weekends ago, (during my 3500 mile road trip to buy 2 KTM dirtbikes) because I was definitely within striking distance. There was absolutely zero space left in the bed of the truck (or even inside the truck for that matter). I probably would have searched Craigslist for a bike hitch carrier (or bought one a harbor freight) to make it happen.
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Called Rev Moto, the P is sold. He has a couple more coming soon though
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Yep. I called too.
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All the chrome accessories and the white wall tires, could it be a bodge? Classic signs
whitewalls and chrome don't make it a bodge. two tone doesn't mean a bodge.

it's all about specifics. what chrome is it? what white walls are they? what's the two-tone look like? is there something off about the bike-- 10's on something that should be 8's. a floor mat or the spare tire cover that's clearly knock off. a front wheel that's a foot in the air. yellow boots-- getting more rare now, though.

it's all about parsing the facts of what is visually available to you. then sorting through your catalog of knowledge to figure out what it actually is.
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And if it it's a 1970s or 80s bike with oil injection, 200cc anything, CEV lights, MPH speedo, plastic fuel switch: Those are all American market.
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That was no bodge. It was someone's well-loved scoot. 13,000 miles and a UCLA parking sticker. Hope it went to a good home.
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That was no bodge. It was someone's well-loved scoot. 13,000 miles and a UCLA parking sticker. Hope it went to a good home.
It even had the original seat upholstery and levers in good condition.
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understood....., will keep refining my bodge spidey senses
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I'm trying to remember if I've ever seen a P series SEA bodge...

If you know of one, please post up a pic? TIA.
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There just aren't P series bodges. It's like smallframes - there are no smallframe bodges except the home brewed kind. Plenty of people who butcher scoots over here, but it's a different can of worms.
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If we're talking Viet Nam, then the timeline helps tell why. The war heated up in the 60s and disrupted imports from Italy, but Ps didn't appear until the 70s. Why no smallframes? Because this was the family CAR in many cases, so why complicate things like service and parts w/ some lesser model I guess?

A few P clones from India & Indonesia I've seen, but just different, not really bodges
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It's not far off on pricing, but I think a few hundo probably are still going to come off that $900. Looks like they are being realistic...
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That's patina right there
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That's patina right there
Patina's about all that's holding it together.
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That's patina right there
You should have seen the patina on this motovespa 160 I checked out the other day.. you could see right through the tunnel to the other side!
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I'm mainly thinking of that as an engine, a fork, a fender, a glove box, and headset, maybe some turn signals.
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cosmetically the engine looks better than the rest of it
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I'm mainly thinking of that as an engine, a fork, a fender, a glove box, and headset, maybe some turn signals.
It's also a horncast & tail light. Razz emoticon
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It's also a horncast & tail light. Razz emoticon
they do both look usable, fair point.
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It's here in town. I should go look at the lump.
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they do both look usable, fair point.
Horn cast has a few cracks and chips in bottom grill towards top center.
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It's the ship that made the Kessel run in less than 12 parsecs.
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Buy both the P2 and that yellow go kart for a $1000 package deal. Then install P2 lump into the kart. Done and done.
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That bike doesn't look bad at all.

Looks sad without tires, but looks straight.

Is this a 125 coil? Hard to tell in small photos. Doesn't look like a Ducati CDI.
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That bike doesn't look bad at all.

Looks sad without tires, but looks straight.

Is this a 125 coil? Hard to tell in small photos. Doesn't look like a Ducati CDI.
I was thinking the same. It looks like a very nice frame.
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Frame looks toast and that lump looks like a 125 / 150 (cylinder cowl & coil)…
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$900 is easy money on that P. not far off anyway...Probably neg it down a bit with cash on the barrel. If its solid, engine turns over...good for parts or a project. Someone stop mulling it over and grab it
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Hard to tell in the photo. The frame looks funly there, but it might just be the photo. Looks like some spry paint, maybe.

It has no major visible rust, but sun damage. The reflectors are totally bleached out.

That bike is totally salvageable. It doesn't look bad at all.
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V oodoo wrote:
I'm trying to remember if I've ever seen a P series SEA bodge...

If you know of one, please post up a pic? TIA.
I want to say I've seen one or maybe two in the last 20+ years and it was hackery like that farmer bodger that's up in mid cal that was red and then white. like, a different fork and headset and some interesting/creative bodywork on an obviously wrecked bike with the garish paint job to round it all out.

one was from SEA and the other as either Pakistan or turkey?

anyway, us Americans are wayyy better at bodging out P series than anybody would ever think! then you got the good ol' fashioned farmer fixes! woo buddy!
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at 750, I'd buy this. it's not a P2 or at least the motor isn't, but I'd part it and keep some tasty bits for another project and adios the rest.
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jape wrote:
It's the ship that made the Kessel run in less than 12 parsecs.
She may not look like much but she's got it where it counts.
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Frame looks toast and that lump looks like a 125 / 150 (cylinder cowl & coil)…
Uh, yeah. I didn't see that side. That looks pretty harsh, but there are people who see that as fixable.

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