Modern Vespa

So far as I know, the loose gears are EFL style, the selector box is EFL style, the cruciform is EFL style. What exactly is not EFL style? If you're just talking quality of manufacture, that is one thing, but the only thing I noticed that was different in my Stella engine was the oil seal arrangement was external, not internal.

What do you mean same, not same?

I have the same question. I've swapped parts piecemeal replacing my original Stella EFL gearbox one part at a time and never saw any difference between them other than maybe the quality of the steel.

i never did say same, not same. I said "same same different". Same same different alludes to a cheaper knockoff. As in lesser quality. I've owned and worked on a couple Stellas, so i'm very familiar with their innards. Yes, you can swap in loose individual (vespa) EFL gears into a Stella transmission. The Stella transmission is slightly different from the EFL. The main axle is a smaller diameter (and is prone to breaking when you put the power to it). And like brought up, the axle seal is different. Shasta vs. Dr. Pepper. Then there's Gortex and then there's Ghortex. S&M's or M&M's candies. Ect...

I think the best (small block) build would be a US market 2005 PX150 with Stella cases and all the italian innards installed (inluding the vespa crank!).

All right then!

I don't think anyone is going to confuse S&M for M&M.

I made that mistake once. Boy was I disappointed when all I got was a bag of some little candy things

Allstate in parts but price is getting there. Allstate in pieces... $800

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/745574286745536/

that's a solid 5 if you have some skill and aren't afraid of getting down with snapping together a quick and dirty bike. figure you'd put another 5 into general chicanery of motor and rebuild whatnots. then figure out paint so you could be 1500~2K for something pretty nice.

terrible first purchase for somebody just getting into scoots, very decent deal for somebody that's already versed in scoots and looking for a project.

if were local I'd scoop it up and just sit it on the shelf.

Id give that for the cowls and mudguard alone.

Agreed, looked like more until the pic of the underside of the frame. Work needed there will cost a few bucks.

having not seen the underside pictures, I now retract my previous statement and instead issue the following statements:



HELL to the no. Hard pass.

maybe 350 for the engine and cowls/fender.

I saw that earlier and thought $500 tops, and that's with me doing my own welding.

every time i see a project like the with such extreme rot or bodgery, it is always accompanied with some very cheap Indian spares. like that is going to seal the deal.

put the crack pipe down.

Always sage advice.

Wow. Just looked over the pics. Rivets.

Why do the SEA ones always look like they have been dipped in salt water right before paint? And the bare metal always has that Jene se qios. I think the best word is Spatter Rust. Not even, light rust that forms on the outside of paint from sitting too long outside- its a special kind of insidious, evil rust.

It doesn't look that bad.

Terrible repair job and the hole cut out of the frame (to reach cables?) that is very sad feature of barn bikes.

But looks like it was blasted a while ago and never primered, so it's got surface rust, but the metal is all straight.

what's even better is that what we're looking at is 100% home grown ameri-bodge.

I shudder to think what's under that primer. or, hell, even in that tunnel!

Nothing is in the tunnel. Anything that was there definitely fell out

But whatever fuckery happened to that thing, it was riveted rather than welded, which would make undoing it to figure out what's left a lot easier.

Asking for a friend...

He's had this Sprint for several years mostly sitting indoors but doesn't ride it now. I believe it's in good running condition and I can get more info & pics, VIN & engine numbers, fire up the motor and check it out personally if somebody is seriously interested. It has clean title and WA collector plates, so local would be ideal but I could help w/ shipping w/ Denver James or similar arrangement.

It was well before the Pandemic that I last saw it to see why it wouldn't start. I added some fresh gas to nearly empty tank and it fired right up. The owner is not a mechanic, but enjoyed easy rides for a season or two.

Call this a prelisting for shifty ppl here and if there's no interest, I will take it to Scootnet and MV For Sale, then CraigsList if I must to help him and hopefully the new owner out. Any suggestions or critiques cheerfully accepted. It is a nice straight older 10" Sprint.

That looks like a jewel V....beautiful ...

It's gorgeous.

I might know someone. The person who painted my bike was wanting one.

It looks like 1969-73 American market?

Thanks guys, I do like it but already have a Sprint AND have too many scooters anyway AND it's too nice thus getting kinda rich for my cheapass blood. I don't know if $2500 is DOD territory yet, but that's the number he is working with.

Yes, I think it's an American import bike from the tuna can rear light(pre '69?) and I recall the added aluminum VIN plate inside leggy, lower left.

That seems like good deal!

I'll talk to my painter friend. He loved my bike, and wanted one. This one looks perfect. Like a little work, but not too much.

Fantastic opportunity for someone on that Sprint. *should* be a ~68 with the tuna can.
Rad.

These look pretty rough, but only $500.

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/3400348400245360/

The frame only is one bent-ass frame after getting wrecked hard. The other once could clean up pretty nicely under all the dirt. Definitely worth checking out if you were in range of them.

I'll pay that for just the cowls if someone wants to split

the wireframe looks to be parts, and not a whole lot of them at that. the smallie has potential, but that's gonna be a whole bunch of doubloons if you don't have some spares and cast offs from other projects in your garage.

I'd be game at 5, break the wideframe and recoup some dinero and be sitting pretty with a smallie project on the cheap.

the smallie has the narrow spigot engine at that year = need new cases to make a motor that will keep up on the road (not even a race engine, at least an ET3 cylinder)

It is the unificata frame though so it could be used as a 90SS replica.

But it is in rough condition.

not a DOD yet, but this round tail could probably go for a few hundred. Basically no engine but the body looks good....https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1528797607555011/?ref=search&referral_code=null&referral_story_type=post&tracking=browse_serp%3Aac351e9f-b61f-4cbe-88db-00e2761f85ce

That's sad. It looks like the fly side case is lost.

I saw that and thought, "Half a case is no case." That thing is a looooooong way from DOTD. $500 max, and that's assuming no hidden rot in the tunnel and a clean title.

I'm with you leather. it's basically a frame, and it seems to be missing several key components and some expensive bits. if it were super rust free, solid and straight we might be talking at 5ish with a title or some kind of paperwork.

but if somebody wants to take a run at this and want's a fly side case half that may or may not work hit me up.

That roundtail has an autolube gas tank...maybe has half of a p series engine?

I'd probably buy the Sprint Veloce if I was closer.

the more I look at this bike the more I think that I may know it or it passed thru my hands at one point. the ruddy brown primer under a flat black rattle job with the natural headset... I did a VNA or VNB like that years ago. it was a roller with a bent fork and a big ass box of parts that a friend of mine in Modesto took home with him. I remember throwing a tank in, which would've been a P tank, that motor half is probably nam just to make it a roller.

it's just a little too coincidental...

I think we discussed this pair previously and deduced that it wasn't much a deal at whatever the price was at the time. maybe it's a little different now. but I remember seeing pics of that super/sprint and thinking it was kind of janky.