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Yes but…
🙂

I can't tell what bike(s) that started as.

One thing that did catch my eye - been on the look out for a repop front mudguard like this.

Pic below has original from late 1940s.
Second pic is zoom in on this bodgery.

Anyone ever seen a supplier of that front mud guard type?

Asking for a friend.
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I'm pretty sure it's custom made like the rest of the bodge to look like a faro basso…
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Ha.
Thanks!
Perhaps I'll have to fabricate my own…
But no faro basso.
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Ha.
Thanks!
Perhaps I'll have to fabricate my own…
But no faro basso.
let me know if you need a headlight... I have one from an LX that you might be able to adapt
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VNA headlight and rim are the same size.

I may have an actual faro basso NOS headlight rim kicking around. Had a bunch of them at one point.
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Thanks gents.

What's caught my eye of the mud guard is the side skirt - more than the light placement.

The skirt is authentic to very early vespas (late 40's) that were some of the most decked out.
Suspect they axed for cost savings as they entered mass production/ increases.

I think it's got a bad ass aesthetic - and also allows deep coverage of wheel while making it serviceable.

I've hunted for a repro but none seem to exist. Assume what y'all have are the lights & accompanying mudguard - rather than the side skirted guards?

With no repro's out there - they must be unobtanium unless home fabbed…
Kinda bad ass no?
Kinda bad ass no?
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originals were likely aluminum formed by hand, so it's not like you can really go that far wrong doing the same.
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Definitely made of aluminum. My parts supplier has a 3rd series Vespa 98…
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Yes but…
🙂

I can't tell what bike(s) that started as.

One thing that did catch my eye - been on the look out for a repop front mudguard like this.

Pic below has original from late 1940s.
Second pic is zoom in on this bodgery.

Anyone ever seen a supplier of that front mud guard type?

Asking for a friend.
If you make one you know it's easier to make three in case you mess one up. Then you can sell me the second one. I like the headlight on fender.
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Wish I was close enough to go get this... Anyone care to do some leg work for a fee?

Estate sale started at 9 this morning:


1664 Coteau Dr
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Here it is for sale again as a quick flip + some floor rails. Looks like some one local picked it up!
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Here it is for sale again as a quick flip + some floor rails. Looks like some one local picked it up!
I'm not going to judge any flippers, but man, that just ain't my style. I'm more of a "i bought it at a great deal, spent way too much money making it something cool, then sell it for a small loss" type of guy.

Without a doubt i would have turned that scooter into a Six Days replica.
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I'm more of a "i bought it at a great deal, spent way too much money making it something cool, then sell it for a small loss" type of guy.

Without a doubt i would have turned that scooter into a Six Days replica.
Egg-xact-lee.

(Except I do judge... just a little bit.)
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Thanks gents.

What's caught my eye of the mud guard is the side skirt - more than the light placement.

The skirt is authentic to very early vespas (late 40's) that were some of the most decked out.
Suspect they axed for cost savings as they entered mass production/ increases.

I think it's got a bad ass aesthetic - and also allows deep coverage of wheel while making it serviceable.

I've hunted for a repro but none seem to exist. Assume what y'all have are the lights & accompanying mudguard - rather than the side skirted guards?

With no repro's out there - they must be unobtanium unless home fabbed…
I see what you see. Very nice. And probably like you, I can't unsee the fender light that screams bodge. I used to like two tone and a little chrome tat, but just can't anymore.

You must have an English wheel somewhere in that mess…
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You must have an English wheel somewhere in that mess…
Not yet.
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if green is yo thing... and smallies get you tight in the pants...

https://offerup.com/item/detail/c57b23a9-d820-3532-89dd-86f0cd2dc511?q=vespa
that's not too shabby
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if green is yo thing... and smallies get you tight in the pants...

https://offerup.com/item/detail/c57b23a9-d820-3532-89dd-86f0cd2dc511?q=vespa
I'm calling this a deal … says all parts included (I see a battery door), fresh spray looks decent. Somebody snag it!
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Yeah how good of a deal depends on the completeness and newness of the parts pile. Could range from nice deal! to just fair. Probably you need to splash some cash to get the engine beyond 100cc anemic but if I wanted a smallie right now I'd be talking to that dude.
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yeah, painted and tagged and titled? there's half the battle. and mike notes the bat-tree door, there's a plus.

to john's note, there's probably another 1~1.5K in getting it set and on the road. but if you had a cache of bits rolling around the garage this is pretty easy lifting, even more so if you limited yourself to being satisfied with "that's good enough" in the "restoration" and "speed" aspects.

but better 2~2.5 into a bike that you know than that 2~2.5 on a blind buy and then having to dump in another 500 and change!

if it was slightly closer and I wasn't buried in work I'd probably go scoop it up
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I thought about it, but adding another scooter to the herd right now would be...how you say?..."unwise?"
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I thought about it, but adding another scooter to the herd right now would be...how you say?..."unwise?"
look... look... if you're gonna face the other way in the canoe and paddle then we're never gonna get anywhere man!

onward! toward questionable life decisions!

besides, in the famous words: you already have like, all the spare parts to do this...
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look... look... if you're gonna face the other way in the canoe and paddle then we're never gonna get anywhere man!

onward! toward questionable life decisions!

besides, in the famous words: you already have like, all the spare parts to do this...
When you put it that way...

And the White Stella is *this* close to getting listed...for about the same price as that green Smallie...
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see! the scooter math always pencils out!
*row* *row* *row*
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Could you buy it for parts? A whole scooter is completely different from a spare engine, a set of forks and parts of (or whole) frame that may or may not be used as repair panels.
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Could you buy it for parts? A whole scooter is completely different from a spare engine, a set of forks and parts of (or whole) frame that may or may not be used as repair panels.
Yeah that's it, chandlerman. This is so you don't have to paint the Allstate. You bought a prepainted frame with some spares….
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You bought a prepainted frame with some spares….
Brilliantly worded. And actually saving money by not needing to spend the money on getting the smallstate painted.
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100%. On a spend like this you obviously need to take a close look and make sure everything's straight and "all parts" really are there. But if it's what the seller says it is, 100 Sports are cool little scoots - basically 3-speed Primaveras with electronic ignition and 12v lighting. Highly modifiable. Perfect for someone like Chandler who already has a monster engine (battery compartment would have to come out, but no biggie).
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There has never been a more shifty coxswain at the helm of this ship of fools... Careful there CM.

(I mean go get it.... but be careful.)
There have to be limits even to my personal levels of stupidity, and sadly, this may be one of them.

I need to get the Smallstate back in fighting shape once the motor arrives (should be tomorrow), plus get the White Stella sold, and then I'm going to restore the Green Stella and sell it on. Only then can I entertain adding something new to the herd, though it very well might be another smallie.
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There have to be limits even to my personal levels of stupidity, and sadly, this may be one of them.
Sometimes you have to sell sh!t just because you need the space to work on the other sh!t. That and keep peace with your lovely wife.
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Sometimes you have to sell sh!t just because you need the space to work on the other sh!t. That and keep peace with your lovely wife.
Yup. And there are limits to what I can sneak in unnoticed. A super-shiny, bright green scooter would probably be beyond that limit.

Next project will probably involve a sidecar. Maybe I'll build the second leaner sidecar so I can give the dogs scooter rides.
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Yup. And there are limits to what I can sneak in unnoticed. A super-shiny, bright green scooter would probably be beyond that limit.
This may or may not be how I ended up with a storage space. *ahem*
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This may or may not be how I ended up with a storage space. *ahem*
Also known as the "side hustle." ROFL emoticon

It is shiny, but none more for me until some stuff gets fixed and ridden or gone.
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see, technically if it's in boxes, you bought boxes of parts, not "another" scooter.

I mean, at least that's how I explained it to the war department.
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Kajiit House of Wares: good parts, fair prices, excellent assistance with poor life decisions!

y'all are welcome.
I'm bringing the double rail carrier this weekend. Mistakes will be made.
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I'm bringing the double rail carrier this weekend. Mistakes will be made.
*grins broadly*

*turns up the dodger game*

*cracks a beer*

Sssss GOOOO!

*looks out at he back 40, sees the angle of the sun*

hmm... okay maybe in another hour or so I'll pull those out...
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see, technically if it's in boxes, you bought boxes of parts, not "another" scooter.

I mean, at least that's how I explained it to the war department.
That has only worked for me a couple of times, then she caught on. No fooling that woman. The other thing that use to happen in the past when I rolled in a new-to- me scoot in. She would ask - "Does it run"? I would reply - "You're kidding, right -why would I bother to buy something that runs"? Now, she doesn't ask anymore. Sometimes, she's no fun at all.
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Yup. And there are limits to what I can sneak in unnoticed. A super-shiny, bright green scooter would probably be beyond that limit.

Next project will probably involve a sidecar. Maybe I'll build the second leaner sidecar so I can give the dogs scooter rides.
I for one, fully support a leaner sidecar. Mainly because I want one.
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