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^yep

He'll sit on it for awhile at 2600 in CLT. Would've been better with someone that'll enjoy it. Offer him 1300 ROFL emoticon if he had offers 'north of 2600' he would've banked it by now.
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I offered him 1500, then 1600. Not enough he said. I walked away.
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Not a deal at the asking price. But a good project
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Or he may be open to a lot of verbal abuse.
I hope so. What a scumbag.
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I offered him 1500, then 1600. Not enough he said. I walked away.
I don't do fb or I'd offer less. I've seen this happen with other things on CL, something gets listed and the seller just collects offers, then relists it higher and higher.
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linky no work.

eta: not that I'm actively looking, (I've got bigger fish to fry) but if a deal fell in my lap...
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it works for me, weird.

It's a 55 vespa at 1500 in San Fran
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No worky for me either, strange
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OK on my phone it tries to open it in the facebook app and nothing happens.

on my pc in Firefox, it works fine.

YMMV.
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OK on my phone it tries to open it in the facebook app and nothing happens.

on my pc in Firefox, it works fine.

YMMV.
huh. weird. I get zip off of FF or safari on Mac. figured it was ghost in the machine or because I don't have the mybookfacespace. OR it was the scooter gods telling me I don't need to be chasing projects!

*shrugs*
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link woks now on chrome, let me know greasy if you want me to go get it for you
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greasy definitely needs more projects, we are cleaning him out up there Razz emoticon
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VintageScooterCommunityClassifieds is a private group, so needs both a FB account and to be a member of the group for the link to work.
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link woks now on chrome, let me know greasy if you want me to go get it for you
thanks for the offer CD but I'm solid. I passed it along to a client of mine so if he pulls the trigger I may hit you up to broker a pick up and hold or put the two of you in touch.
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greasy definitely needs more projects, we are cleaning him out up there Razz emoticon
don't try and reverse engineer my tactics on me, sir!

Johnny Mule over here trying to play the Scooter Reverse Uno card on me!

I'm still in getting rid of projects & parts mode
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don't try and reverse engineer my tactics on me, sir!

Johnny Mule over here trying to play the Scooter Reverse Uno card on me!

I'm still in getting rid of projects & parts mode
If you get more, my deals get better! you have picked up on my tactics, which are of course your tactics. Laughing emoticon
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The guy selling it is the owner of second chance scooters, hes a stand up guy. I have his contact info if u need it
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I'm pretty sure this one's been sold.
Looks like a good project!
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I'm pretty sure this one's been sold.
Looks like a good project!
Yep. Someone got lucky on that one, right CM2?
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We want details! Will be watching for a new thread. 🍿
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Are Allstate's more desirable/valuable than VBB's?
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They have nostalgic appeal here in the States because they were imported and sold by Sears and were cheap and fun. They were the first "motorcycles" a lot of people had as kids.
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Are Allstate's more desirable/valuable than VBB's?
No, not really. The VBB front fork alone makes a difference over riding the shockless, pogo stick of the Allstate.
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They have nostalgic appeal here in the States because they were imported and sold by Sears and were cheap and fun. They were the first "motorcycles" a lot of people had as kids.
You could get anything and everything boring and cool from Sears back in the day. Every year we reduced the Christmas catalogue to tatters when we were kids. I totally get the nostalgia.
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To me the appeal of that Allstate is the fact it's a handlebar bike. Yes that fork will need some mods if one weren't after a concourse resto… but that thing screams Sunday Best aesthetics.
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Are Allstate's more desirable/valuable than VBB's?
Pre '69 '59 were "wide body" rather than large frame.
Everyone has their own preferences.
What attracts my eye:

- they are round tail, like early Alfa Romeo spiders.
- there is no hump in the tail for the tank, so it's curved all the way up to the seat. This is one of the nicest lines Vespa ever produced in my eye.
- the cowls are very round and and almost torpedo like - like Sofia Loren's … pure sexy
- and of course the handlebars. As vintage a look as you can get - have always wanted to build one.

Gick is a specialist in the motors.
I'm more of a fan of the 150's that came after on the 60's scoots.
But there are kits and parts for these earlier motors.


Thread to follow on this one.
I have zero time for a project right now - but couldn't resist.
Thanks to SoCal for tipping me off - he knows my type…

Off to pick it up tomorrow!
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Pre '69 were "wide body" rather than large frame.
think you mean '59
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Pre '59 were "wide body" rather than large frame.
Everyone has their own preferences.
What attracts my eye:

- they are round tail, like early Alfa Romeo spiders.
- there is no hump in the tail for the tank, so it's curved all the way up to the seat. This is one of the nicest lines Vespa ever produced in my eye.
- the cowls are very round and and almost torpedo like - like Sofia Loren's … pure sexy
- and of course the handlebars. As vintage a look as you can get - have always wanted to build one.

Gick is a specialist in the motors.
I'm more of a fan of the 150's that came after on the 60's scoots.
But there are kits and parts for these earlier motors.


Thread to follow on this one.
I have zero time for a project right now - but couldn't resist.
Thanks to SoCal for tipping me off - he knows my type…

Off to pick it up tomorrow!
😁


Fixed your typo. Pre 1959 is wide body not 1969
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No, pre fiftyEIGHT! I have a pre '59 AllState and it is a 1958 largeframe, not a widebody.

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It's the same as this 1958 I posted here earlier and obviously not a widebody.
and mine, both 1958 largeframes
and mine, both 1958 largeframes
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Gick is a specialist in the motors.
I'm more of a fan of the 150's that came after on the 60's scoots.
But there are kits and parts for these earlier motors.


Thread to follow on this one.
I have zero time for a project right now - but couldn't resist.
Thanks to SoCal for tipping me off - he knows my type…

Off to pick it up tomorrow!
😁
Can't wait to see this go down.
Of note… I saw Sticky is dipping his toe into a wideframe game making a how-to manual. His Lambretta books are considered top notch so I would suspect his wide frame manual will be of the same quality. Keep an eye out.
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Ok. Ok.
Not '69.
(Fill in Sofia Loren joke here)

I have been known to supply questionable information.
🙂

Pretty sure whodat has a '58 with headset rather than handlebars?
I'm aware of one for sale right now as well - and it's purportedly "58 and has headset.
Think '58 was a cross over year.

Wide frame book?
I'll keep my eyes peeled.

Oh - and one other reason I like the allstates:

Sears convinced Vespa to cheapen every thing they could on this generation of wireframe.
- the front shock is, well, actually just a spring.
- the floor rails are just pressed with no rubber.
Etc.

So when I fix it up - I will feel good about my "upgrades" to finishes more closely matching what was done in Europe.
(Warning shots fired).

Can't wait!
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So when I fix it up - I will feel good about my "upgrades" to finishes more closely matching what was done in Europe.
(Warning shots fired).
see model U Razz emoticon
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I LOVE my 62 Allstate
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see model U Razz emoticon
Looks like a VL1T chassis with a VU1T fork Nerd emoticon
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And Ilove your 62 Allstate too!
My fave...

For the large frame Allstate models like yours, that replaced the wide frame ones, they at least upgraded the rails to rubber like their Vespa counterparts.
At some point it got 4 speeds.
I don't think they ever gave it a front shock.
Didn't you upgrade the front fork to VBB/Euro spec?

Clearly I am feeling guilty already about my less than stock concourse plans for my new beauty.
More when I get her.
-CM
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Oh - and speaking of front forks - I'm guessing that mine is just a wee bit bent:

*(Ray - thanks for posting the listing!)
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