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I think the performance, sound and looks of the g&g are the best choice
(www.gegbike.nl for more info)

You can check it out on youtube by searching for:
G&G mp3

Some new pics! I hop you like'm

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I like the G&G

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There is apparently a new version of the Leo Vince that has an integrated carbon heat sheild, not sure if there are any internal differences, but worth checking. I just fitted mine but it is the older version. I like it, but it was too quiet with the db plug in, and too loud with it out. A quick bit of work with the dremel and now it is half as long and just right.

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I'm getting the G&G installed at the end of this month. I'll let you know how it is.
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i cant wait!
i am going to order it tomorrow. EDIT: not yet.

wait they dont have the EC yet.
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I'm getting the G&G installed at the end of this month. I'll let you know how it is.
Where did you get the G&G Muffler from? Only source I have seen is over on the other side of the big pond.

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Yes currently only orderable from

http://www.motorcycle-exhausts.co.uk/product_info.php?cPath=1_547_566_568&products_id=8583

I have contacted them and they are very responsive. Feel free to email Brian.

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Just curious, why change out an OEM exhaust if only for appearance and "sound"?
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Why not do it? People like to mod!

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Sound, weight and looks. I think the stock exhaust detracts from the overall look of the 500.

Just my opinion. To each his own.
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Is there any way to modify the stock exhaust to be lighter and slightly louder??
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Just curious, why change out an OEM exhaust if only for appearance and "sound"?
I want to swap mine just for the sound and I will stash the OEM Muffler in my basement. If I ever need it for emissions I will have it.

I want a nice deep bup bup bup at idle.

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vandave wrote:
Just curious, why change out an OEM exhaust if only for appearance and "sound"?
I want a nice deep bup bup bup at idle.

I did mine for sound only, I know there is much debate on the topic but I find having a noisy bike is safer. I had 2 cars move into my lane just in front of me in the first week of having the MP3, they don't do that when I am on my Aprilia with the dual Akropovic pipes with the db killers removed, they hear me coming. 8)

I don't sit in the blind spot of cars, but was in a multi lane road, about to pass them when they came into my lane. Having the loud pipes still don't mean you can assume the have heard or seen you, but in general people are aware you are there.

p.s. I do really love the bup bup bup as well. Razz emoticon

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Why not do it? People like to mod!

Matt C.
are you comptipalting carring the G&G?
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manfetti wrote:
Why not do it? People like to mod!

Matt C.
are you comptipalting carring the G&G?
Mat, please do start carrying the G&G if you can.

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I've been very happy with 4road on both 250 and 400. Over 10,000 miles on each.
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I want black not chrome.

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black would be niiiiiccceee.
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manfetti wrote:
Why not do it? People like to mod!

Matt C.
are you comptipalting carring the G&G?
Not until there are some longevity reports/tests.

Matt C.
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yes i ordered it today, 2 weeks delivery max. Bought it with the big07 endcap.

Im very curious for the results offcourse im not using the db-killer, just put it in the buddy seat so if a policeman pulls me of the road i can put it back on
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HOLYMOLY!!!

I am very happy with my new exhaust, that sound is sooo deep and nice.

I was pikking up my girl and she immediadly notice the new sound, she woulndt let me drive and took control, riding home she was enjoing a lot.

I will be posting pics.

ps: the mechanics told me that the exhaust was a piece of work! Good craftmenship was noticed right away.
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Holy Exhaust Pipe, Batman. Is that sound coming from You....
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Holy Exhaust Pipe, Batman. Is that sound coming from You....
a real batmobile
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sounds great Robert keep us up to date with longivity on that G&G. hopefully we can get a distributor here to pick them up so everyone can get one. hint hint Matt
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That G&G does look nice, but the $400 price tag turns me off. I'd get one if the price was competive with the Leo4 road.
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Here are some pics of the G&G installed.

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Its a real badass mofo. Thats for sure, i hope i can post a youtube

looks great on the 500 jrl!
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Is the G&G a slip-on or full exhaust system?

The LV 4Road is a full system. But on the 500, that header pipe is a b%#$ch to bolt on. And I'm not sure the LV header is all that much larger than stock. And we've all already agreed performance is not the reason we do these things.

If the G&G is a slip-on, mounting would be a breeze compared to the LV full system....if that matters to people.
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pics for everyone and youtube:
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Sounds great! Nice pics. Have you tried it without the DB Killer? I haven't had the time to test mine without it.
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A little deeper sound (especially at idle) but not sure if it is worth the cost for just a slightly different sound. Sound and looks together?...maybe if i had a few extra bucks laying around.
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I like it can you post a u-tube with out the db killer installed so we can hear the difference? Is it just a slip on cannister?
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let me tell you guys, the sound is not a little louder but a lot and a lot deeper. Maybe the deep (bass) sounds dont record as good

I didnt remove the db killer cos it was loud enough, if i turn open the gas its loud, i only made 3000rpm while shouting the vid.

I can remove the dbk but is has some welding ()did i spell that correct points: three. First i have to break those to take out the dbk.
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Robert, Let us know when you do the DBK. I'll try it after you if it makes sense.
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Again.....is this a slip on or full system?
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slip on. comes with everything you need.
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Any pics with the 4Road installed on a 500?
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Len Smith wrote:
Any pics with the 4Road installed on a 500?
See here:
https://modernvespa.com/forum/topic52992

and here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPjEaPOEsPU
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Weight is a big difference between stock and G&G. I can't speak for the 4 Road, but the G&G is 2-3 times less weight than the stock exhaust.

After I installed the new exhaust the dealer gave me the old one to take home. I couldn't believe how much it weighed. Talk about a boat anchor...
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Gotta ask
Given the brains adjust the fuel mix - is there any reason you can't play with different "mufflers" on our bikes? Used to be a lot of what we called "resonators" were available for the likes of MG's, Fiats, etc. Their whole purpose was throaty sound. Anyone remember "Cherry Bombs"? Hush Thrush?
It'd be a piece of cake to bolt on a cherry bomb - any practical reason why not?
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