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I have a few friends who are waiting their chance to ride an MP3. My question is this. Would you let anyone take a test ride on yours?
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Short answer- no.
Long answer- Yes, maybe , if they were already competent (in my opinion, not theirs) on other scooters and willing to be financially responsible.

(Most motorcycle insurance policies only cover the named owner.)
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Re: Have you let a friend "test ride" your MP3?
agolfertoo wrote:
I have a few friends who are waiting their chance to ride an MP3. My question is this. Would you let anyone take a test ride on yours?
only if they agreed to cover damages AND they already have a motorcycle endorsement.
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What Paige said.

If they don't know how to ride, as in have their own or had their own scooter/bike the answer is NOOOOOO!!!!

Want good reason not too? Search youtube for first time riders.

I have let 2 people ride my MP3, my old boss, he has a bike, and one of the former owners of the company where I work. Figured if he wrecked it, he had the money to buy me a new one or get it fixed without even blinking. He almost dropped it pulling out of the parking space. It had a LOT more power than he was expecting. I was seeing a nice Bright Red Paint job, he saved it, Damn

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I've only let one person take mine out. A good friend with endorsement and had his own bike.
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I let my brother in law take her around the block. He's been riding for a long time. That is all.
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yes to a select few, namely some road racers and others who have years of experience and could afford it if a mishap occurs.

new riders NO WAY.
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I've only let two people ride my bike and they both have motorcyles and are experienced riders. Everyone else I just tell no politley
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Yes, if I trust them as riders. genie had an extended go on my Fuoco a couple of weeks ago.
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If by friend you mean a person who would only get on your scoot if they knew they had the funds and were willing with no hesitation to pay for any accidents caused by them,then yes.

If by friend you mean a person who thinks since your "his" friend you would never expect them to pay for any accidents,then no.

Whats a friend?
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Scootover wrote:
Whats a friend?
Someone who will help you hide the body...
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jimc wrote:
Scootover wrote:
Whats a friend?
Someone who will help you hide the body...
I have two of those, the close friends

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My hubby and a couple of other friends who are longtime riders. I've said I would let my brother take it around the parking lot if he wanted, but he doesn't want to risk dropping it.
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I had two old war buddies come over and ride it, and my son steals my bike when ever he comes over. I like to spread da love!
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I've let a few VERY select friends ride mine, and, as others has said, they were all very experienced riders. The others I have directed to the dealership. That is why they have demonstrator bikes.
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Wayne B wrote:
jimc wrote:
Scootover wrote:
Whats a friend?
Someone who will help you hide the body...
I have two of those, the close friends

Wayne B
OMG! You have hidden two bodies! Clown emoticon
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Shh!
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I have let two people test ride mine. One dropped it and scraped one side. A few days later, a relative(who was smacked) took it for a spin without my knowledge and laid it down on the other side. Luckily for me, both were minor paint damage that was fixed with my new paint job.
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Yes, let a few people I know who ride, take a parking lot spin. But mine is not "brand new". Has a few scrapes from previous owner.
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I have and over $5500.00 later it rides like new.
I even asked the Idiot ,"Have you ever ridden a MC before?"
His reply,"several times". I'm thinkin O.K.

His comment to me after the horrific crashing sounds and as I was pulling the scoot off of him was,"Where's the break on this thing?"

Basically you have to get past all of the potential testers preconceived notions because it ain't a motorcycle.
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I tell them okay just let me hold $10,000 until you bring it back undamaged.



"Never loan out your bike or your wife, they never come back in the same shape"
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I let a friend borrow. Jumped on an airplane and went on a business trip. I thought for sure he would like it so much he'd buy one from Rockridge two wheels.

I thought it would acts as the formation of my outlaw scooter club. But then his wife said no.
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I let Maynard (member of this forum) take a 45 mile spin on it. I figured he had one so it would be safe. Besides, I took his for 45 miles as well. Swapped on a 546 mile jaunt.
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Wonder if it would work (be safer for you, the owner) to get the rider's license (with motorcycle endorsement) and proof of insurance. Insurance covers the rivers/drivers, at least in my state. That's what my dealer does with his demos.

That might work for anyone who's trying to sell a bike, too.

Of course, the short answer is, indeed, no, in most cases.
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Nope and I don't think I would either. Not that I don't trust them but I wouldn't want to be in the position where they may damage my bike.
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I let my stepson ride it but he is an accomplished rider.

No one else unless (as I said in an earlier thread on this topic) you put 10,000 dollars in my had and sign a waiver.
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14perry wrote:
I tell them okay just let me hold $10,000 until you bring it back undamaged.



"Never loan out your bike or your wife, they never come back in the same shape"
Yeah, I agree, and with sticky too. On the other hand you may lose a friend in the process of being a good sport and lettin' em ride a "3 wheeled" different kinda scoot. What if he/she got seriously hurt? Not worth the risk to me....I'd never forgive myself and I'd be out a scoot. Final Answer.....No
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I let my dad ride mine when I was visiting my parents a few months back. He's been a rider for years and asked all the good/important questions before he took it out for a quick jaunt around their neighborhood - questions like, "This obviously isn't a clutch, so I'm assuming the front brake? Wait, no rear brake on the floor, so what the hell brake is this?" and a lot of questions about the tilt lock. Of course, after a brief demo, he's off and riding, in flip flops and shorts. Came back with nary a scratch on bike or dad. He's such a rebel.
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mvtroiano wrote:
I had two old war buddies come over and ride it, and my son steals my bike when ever he comes over. I like to spread da love!
Is that you son or your buddy on the ground in your avatar?
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Yes I have let one friend ride it because he put his Honda CBR600RR as a security deposit.
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I did learn a hard lesson once back when I first got my bike. I was friends with a kid in one of my college classes and I saw him on a scooter. I didn't know he had one. We stopped and talked for a bit. He was curious about my bike. I said, you can take it for a spin if you want. (bad idea) I got on his scooter and it could only go as fast as 25mph. I thought of crap what did I do. At that moment, he started to wobble really bad after stopping at a stop sign. He just about dumped it. He was short to and couldn't reach the ground. He ended up straddling the bike and used his feet to balance, but couldn't stop the bike. He ended up heading toward the curb but barely managed to sop. I ran up as fast as I could and put the tilt lock on. After that, NO MORE. I really learned my lesson. Just don't do it no matter what unless that person has an MP3 themselves.
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Tell them that if they have a M license they can do a test ride at the dealer. Mine? If they put up $10,000 security. I don't have the same insurance the dealer carries.
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Yes, but only to those who i know have the money to fix there damage AND is not a hothead that will drive it like hes crazy.

How else will you get your friends to by one and have a blast riding with you Razz emoticon
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Regardless of endorsement and insurance my concern would be liability. I might allow a good trusted friend with the above to ride. But absolutely no way with anyone else. The last thing is need is a civil or criminal case against me for allowing an unlicensed driver/rider to get on my scoot. With my luck he/she would have a wreck and seriously injure or kill someone.
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Oh no no, no, no and furhter more NO. This baby is mine, miiine, miiiiiine I tell you Wha? emoticon My precious.....
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BIGDDY wrote:
Regardless of endorsement and insurance my concern would be liability. I might allow a good trusted friend with the above to ride. But absolutely no way with anyone else. The last thing is need is a civil or criminal case against me for allowing an unlicensed driver/rider to get on my scoot. With my luck he/she would have a wreck and seriously injure or kill someone.
In CA it would be more convoluted because license wise it is fine.
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I have let the co-worker of my insurance broker who had "apparently" driven bikes for a few years. Dropped it on the right side after 5 meters causing $350 worth of damage, final bill was $900 with labor but he was a good sport and paid for everything.

My sister's boyfriend who had driven dirt bikes before take it for a jaunt around the neighbourhood, no eventful happenings and now he wants to get his M license.

Last was my cousin, who had only ridden his friends' SS a few times in a parking lot. Let him do a few loops in an empty roundabout.

Bike's off limits now. Goofy emoticon
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Absolutely NOT...give me $12,000 in cash and you can ride my 250. I keep the money. Want to ride it now? No? Fine!!! MY stuff is not yours. Go buy one for yourself. My scooper is Not an amusement ride....How could them Even ask? Really Rude.
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Jacq wrote:
Absolutely NOT...give me $12,000 in cash and you can ride my 250. I keep the money. Want to ride it now? No? Fine!!! MY stuff is not yours. Go buy one for yourself. My scooper is Not an amusement ride....How could them Even ask? Really Rude.
This is a small example of MP3 hostility.
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I have for a couple of people that I ride with regularly, and am comfortable with their skill level and maturaty level. One friend ended up getting one of his own so now we can either scoot or moto on rides. When asked by persons I don't know their riding skill, the answer is no.

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