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I would really love to buy a GTS 300, but unfortunatley i really cannot afford to put that down that much cash.

Are there any comparable scooters that are similiar to the GTS but not as expensive? (cc wise)

Thanks in advance.
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Buy a used GTS cash if you can, I've seen them low 3500-4500 local Try brown Motor works in Pomona ( BMW) Dealer, they may help you. or Long beach Vespa.
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Yes and I just saw this one on Craigslist.
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I picked up a 2005 GT200 last year...you could probably find similar on Craigslist.
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Yes and I just saw this one on Craigslist.
http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/mcy/1374969303.html
I saw that, but I seriously doubt the MSRP was $6400 on a 2008 GTS. I have same model and year that was $5999. Of course, the tax, license, boots and added mods made it closer to $7500 out the door.
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I would really love to buy a GTS 300, but unfortunatley i really cannot afford to put that down that much cash.

Are there any comparable scooters that are similiar to the GTS but not as expensive? (cc wise)

Thanks in advance.
Same exact engine as the Vespa 250. Piaggio BV250

http://www.piaggiousa.com/scooters.php#/overview/Piaggio%20BV%20TOURER%20250


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how about an aprilia scarabeo 200. The dealer here in Michigan was selling his OTD for 3200.
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SYM Citycom 300i. Pretty nice scooter. I found it to feel a little heavy when I test rode one but apparently the reliability is top notch. A local Vespa dealer who sells them says the SYM brand have been very, very good.

I did some calculations just a couple of days ago and by the figures the Citycom has a little more HP and torque than the GTS 300 but weighs a little more. They should perform similarly.

Good under seat storage by the way!

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Wife has a BV 250 and its a really nice bike. There's one on CL see link below for $2500.00 with only 1500 miles

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I did some calculations just a couple of days ago and by the figures the Citycom has a little more HP and torque than the GTS 300 but weighs a little more. They should perform similarly.Dave
Where did you get your info from?

The Vespa GTS300 has more hp than the SYM and more torque. The Vespa makes 22hp and the Sym makes 20.6 hp. The sym makes 17.3 ft lbs of torque and the Vespa makes 22.3ft lbs of torque. If you add the fact that the SYM weighs 75 pounds more than the Vespa you will realize the Vespa completely destroys the Sym in performance and power to weight ratio.
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I just wanna know when we get a BV500 engine in the GTS frame!
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I just wanna know when we get a BV500 engine in the GTS frame!
so that would be a dream.
I agree about buying used. That is what I did since I struggled with spending so much on something I cannot ride all year.
Now that I have gotten a piece of the sweet action, I don't know what I will do if something happens to this one...I would now have to have another. quickly.
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I just wanna know when we get a BV500 engine in the GTS frame!
We never will until Vespa ups their tires to at least 14 inch. Speed ratings on the 12 inchers and overall saftey will limit what size motors Vespa will use on those smaller tires. I think the 300 will be the biggest scoot we see on 12 inch tires.
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Where did you get your info from?


Vespa Canada web site and Sym Canada web site.

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Re: Cant afford GTS
[quote="DineshD"]I would really love to buy a GTS 300, but unfortunatley i really cannot afford to put that down that much cash.

Are there any comparable scooters that are similiar to the GTS but not as expensive? (cc wise)

Thanks in advance.

Try to find a Honda Elite 250; expect to pay $1600 - $2000 for a nice one.
You'll get about 90% of the performance of a Vespa GT/GTS.
Vespa copied the Honda powertrain architecture 20 years after the Elite was introduced and uses it today in the GT/GTS.
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What kind of price range are you looking for? There's a lot out there.

Aprilia is doing a special Scarabeo 300ie. Anyone know if that's coming to the US?
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Where did you get your info from?


Vespa Canada web site and Sym Canada web site.

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Absolute Junk and a poor Vespa knockoff.


Buy something from a company with a good reputation.
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Absolute Junk and a poor Vespa knockoff.


Buy something from a company with a good reputation.
Is there any company you suggest that i can buy for under $2000?
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In general, just steer clear of any scooter made by a Chinese manufacturer. Unfortunately, with most Chinese scooters, you get what you pay for: not much. Some folks get lucky, and get decent ones. But more often than not, you'll end up spending the money you "saved" on the cheap scooter by replacing parts and taking it in for service all the time.

Best to look for a really good deal on a used scoot, if you need to stay in that price range.
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i was also looking at Lance scooters, are they reputable at all??

http://www.lancepowersports.com/vintage-150
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Does it have to be a 250? You could probably get a 150 used for around that much if you looked. If you go to other brands keep it well known. Honda,Yamaha,etc. Kymco has a good line of scooters. There are A lot of cheap chinese scooters out there and you get what you pay for. Keep looking on CL and the for sale area on this forum and you might find one. Good luck
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i was also looking at Lance scooters, are they reputable at all??

http://www.lancepowersports.com/vintage-150
To put it simply, NO!

http://www.clevelandscooters.com/id60.html

POC agrees.
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Absolute Junk and a poor Vespa knockoff.


Buy something from a company with a good reputation.
Is there any company you suggest that i can buy for under $2000?
About the best new scoot (over 50cc) you can get for that $$$ is a Kymco Agility 125 They are a good brand of scoot and this model is nice for the $$$.

http://www.kymcousa.com/showroom/scooters/agility125/index.html



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i was also looking at Lance scooters, are they reputable at all??

http://www.lancepowersports.com/vintage-150
Yes. Disreputable!

As far as quality, Lance is probably among the better of the importers of generic Chinese scoots. This means their junk is slightly better than some other junk that looks exactly the same. It's easy to hate on the Chinese scoots and sometimes the anti-Chinese rhetoric takes on a slightly racist tone, but the fact is these cheap scoots coming in and being resold under a variety of names are for the most part not good. Not Taiwanese good. Not Japanese good. Not Italian good.

Lance doesn't get good marks as a company either. Little customer and dealer support, warranties often not honored, sleazy business practices.

For $2K you won't find a new scooter anywhere near a GTS in terms of quality, reliability and performance. You'll have a hard time finding a good used 250cc-300cc scooter at that price. You can get a 50cc Genuine Buddy for $2K. Otherwise, you're probably looking at a used 150cc-most likely Japanese or Taiwanese.

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About the best new scoot (over 50cc) you can get for that $$$ is Kymco. They are a good brand.

http://www.kymcousa.com/showroom/scooters/agility125/index.html
+1 on this. The Agility is built in China, but by Kymco which does have a pretty solid reputation. I know a couple people who have them. Not my thing but pretty good scoots for the money. (I'd no idea they were this inexpensive.) The fit and finish isn't as good as the other Kymcos (some of the plastic isn't as nice)-this is obviously a budget scooter, but it's a decent one.
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Good advice in this thread. If you want a bigger scooter (200-250) for $2000 or so, I'd look for a good used Kymco or Sym (both Taiwanese makes).

This for example:

http://losangeles.craigslist.org/sfv/mcy/1369911352.html

I have a People 250 and couldn't be happier with it.

Here's a used Agility:

http://losangeles.craigslist.org/wst/mcy/1366109325.html

You might also drive over to Noho scooters. He carries Sym, Kymco, and Genuines and those are more in your price range than the Italian makes.

The first Kymco is a decent price, if it's in good shape.
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A neighbour has one and loves it. He did say there was a problem with the front brake that the dealer fixed, and it's been fine since.
I'll check back with him next time I see him to see how it's been holding up.
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I have a Kymco People250, Great scoot that i got for around $2k used on CL.

I'm still longing for a GTS as soon as I can afford it
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