Modern Vespa

Yeah, you're probably right. It certainly would be pushing the limit to get reliability out of an air-cooled, high-output 200.

Okay, there's a shagged looking GT 200 around the corner parked under the council offices - I say we nick it in the name of research and see if we can create the LX 200.

I'm up for that. Although I'd have to take some welding lessons

*flexs boltcutters while wearing balacalva*

Did you borrow it from David? 8)

His mum knitted it for him.

It's all good. At least you didn't write I like p i e.

No wonder you studied ancient languages, etc. you are definitely stuck in another century, and not in a good way.

Tell me, did your boyhood treehouse have a "no girlz" sign on it?

No, it had this one:

Me too, I'd love a 200 or 250 in the LX/S frame. That would such a sleeper scooter. You'd have the element of surprise on everyone on the road. 8)

really?

This got a negative ranking???

I'm telling you dude - it's a popularity contest, that's it.

Now you're going to get negatived by proxy.

It is a vast, negative wing conspiracy!

well, ok, duh. of course that's a factor. and thankfully I don't care about my karma.

but I was just a little surprised to see how sensitive we are that one person can reply with snark to another snarky reply, and then suddenly, it's ranked negative. bent out of shape for no reason.

whatever, I don't care, and this isn't a karma thread (those are all locked) - it was just kind of curious.

Anyway, back to the point - a 500cc vespa would suck ass, and not be a real vespa. scooter? sure. vespa? probably not.

This seems to be the magic bike right here. I will build one if you dare me. Winter is coming and my tech's have mad mad skills.

I can get a brand new LXV crate damage from Piaggio and I certainly can find a 250 or 300 driveline no problem.

Should I build a monster this winter boys and girls?

SDG

PS I think I might start a new thread on this depending on your responses.

Now this one would need not just pictures, but videos too!!

Yes, and it should be a black S....when will this (my new bike) be ready?

most of us know a certain someone on this forum who is trying something very similar, might be referred to as "Project Rosebud". THe idea is to cram the LEADER200 in there though since that's got a more tune-able engine than the 250.

I believe there is some good ol' fashioned frame modifications that'll have to be done as well, so it's not a simple engine drop.

Well no need to do two of them. What's the link? Certainly frame mod's will need to be done however if someone is on it I will enjoy that as much.

SDG

I'm not looking to buy the next latest greatest Vespa, I'm waiting for mine to become vintage so I can be one of the cool kids. I guess that will happen when the electric Vespas arrive and my old fashioned 4t makes me old school...Is that how it works?

if it's on here it's in the projects section.

https://modernvespa.com/forum/topic32797?highlight=

Thanks O.Z. for the link. Fun project, will be watching. You just saved me a bunch on my car insurance.

SDG

So we like the LX200 idea then... Theoretically I'm out in the garage stuffing a Runner 180 in the scooter 8)

Reality is I don't even have a garage and I'm still dreaming Obviously if such a thing were to be made by Piaggio it would have a radiator and be complicated, my ideal is a bit more air-cooled and aromatic

That is a rhetorical question right? Build it damn it and send it up here to Toronto.

You've got a lot more surly and jaded to get, first

Thanks for the tip, I'll work on it.

oh, I mean...

SHUT UP! I WASN'T ASKING PEOPLE LIKE YOU.

How was that?

Crap! Winking isn't jaded or surly. This will be harder than I thought.

Yeah, got to ditch the emoticons.

Also need to go to rallies and not ride, just sit at whatever bar the meet-up is at. When asked by some smiley faced n00b if you are going on the ride, sneer and say "rides are (insert favorite deroggatory term here), we're going to the strip club"

Best though is if you just ignore city rallies (unless they have good strip clubs) and just go to camping rallies without a scooter. Then just talk about scootering and get drunk around a fire. Someone will have brought an old POS to ride and you take your turn trying to destroy it.

Go home with a hangover.

I reject a lot of those notions.

1) City rallies can still be fun. Some die-hards only go to camping rallies, yes ... but the reason Detroit throws a city rally when we could EASILY EASILY throw a camping rally is because i think people come to Detroit with some idea of actually wanting to see the shittiness that is the city of detroit. Sequestering ourselves off in some grassy field seems like we're ignoring an elephant in the room There's some really strange / cool things here ( theater bizarre, the heidelberg project ) that we like showing our guests. That couldn't happen at a camping rally.

Plus, i think it shows way more club effort and organization to throw a city rally that people actually want to come to because it's done well. It is MUCH harder work. Anyone can put a keg and some tents up in a field.

2) I find that i feel like i barely even showed for the rally if i don't go on some sort of long ride. Yeah, at many of the old-school rallies i go to ( PVSC, Niagara ) i end up having to lead some sort of club long ride, because the organizing club has just stopped doing it. Everyone's nursing a hangover, and nobody wants to ride.

3) Since i stopped drinking, i've had to change my approach to rallies. It used to be about getting as drunk as i could, getting naked, doing something stupid, etc. Things like a long ride and doing something specific to where i am seem part of the necessary things to do. I mean, we can all go get drunk in our backyards. What makes getting drunk in a really large backyard with a bunch of scooters parked nearby any different? Why travel for that?

4) I think the above reasons are really why no modern scooters show up at camping rallies. Granted, this is part of the reason why the die-hard folks like it ( the lack of auto scoots)... but... what does that say? They would rather ride than get stupid drunk... and i don't necessarily blame them.

Whatever, Eric, no one actually wants to go to Deee-troit. They get exiled to Detroit.

I've grown a bit tired of city rallies. Township and village rallies are where it's at, turds.

Damn Eric I thought you had a sarcasm filter. Having been the lead on 4 rallies, and working on our fifth, you're preaching to the choir.

Besides, Detroit is almost like a camping rally given how empty it is I used to go on the long rides, and I will LEAD them, but be stuck in a pack on strange roads? No thanks. Not anymore. Just too many people (modern and vintage) who cannot ride for shit. To fight people who aren't normally in your backyard. Specifically dog shit and full beer can fights. Come to a Baltimore rally sometime I don't get stupid drunk, ever. I drink, yes, but I think I've only been stupid drunk a handful of times and most of tht was overseas.

If I want to ride I will ride by myself or with someone I know can ride and push my limits.

Touring around a city and beeping and waving hi and looking for adoration from crowds of people staring at me on my little moped just never really did it for me.

I do, and i know you and i know how you're meaning things to come out.

But we're here...and many of the folks here no neither you, your posting style, your sarcasm, etc. I'm finding myself having to play devils advocate to a lot of your post assertions ( despite having similar viewpoints ) more for the benefit of others who are reading this and take umbrage.

Should i have to do that? No. But you're running around flicking matches and trying to start fires here and i'm having to play johnny eagle scout by following you around and stamping them out.

Just tell them to ignore my posts if they don't get me. No one is forcing them to read them afterall.

Not really trying to start anything. I give my opinions and advice on things I know a little about. That's it. It's because my opinions differ that people think I'm trying to start trouble.

Not it at all. My opinions are worth whatever anyone paid for them.

I can tell people to harden up and ignore shit all day long, but you and i both know that isn't going to fix anything.

You're allowed to have your viewpoints, but it's like you're running into a forum of Conservatives yelling "Hillary for Prez!". You can't expect everyone's going to take it in stride.

Works for me I was told to ignore 90% of the threads on the Modern side so I have... it's just when they're close to home (the 10%) that I post in.

Good god could you imagine if I actually paid attention on this side?

I'm starting to see a trend here, Mike. First is it's obvious that you are always right and everyone else is wrong. Is it really necessary to rebut people point for point to prove it?

Second is the constant baiting of mv members.

It's as tired as the old vintage Vs modern thing.

I'm hoping you can bring more constructive content, since you are a technically savvy guy.

The constant bickering is annoying.

Just my opinion.

Mike has repeatedly stated that we lack a sarcasm / humor filter, putting the blame squarely at our feet for not "getting" it.

Maybe the problem isn't with us at all. Maybe the problem is him?

I am not especially fond of Internet trolls, Mike. Your behavior here is increasingly trollish. Either figure out how to convey your "humor" so that it is apparent to someone besides yourself, or just stop posting.

But it is. I got legions of fans.

Other trolls don't count.