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I ordered a replacement clutch bell from a local vespa dealer, they didn't have any in stock so it was ordered from Piagio. It came sealed in the Piagio part box but when I got it home to install, I immediately noticed it looked different! I'm not sure if this will matter but the piece that is welded on the outside of the bell to fit against the transmission bearing is missing. It almost looks like it was ground down! Not sure what to make of it, what do you guys think?

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What's the part number on the 'new' bell?
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What's the part number on the 'new' bell?
Part # 82517R
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Hmm... my info suggests 82751R - perhaps they have a numerically dyslexic parts picker - it has been known!
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Hmm... my info suggests 82751R - perhaps they have a numerically dyslexic parts picker - it has been known!
Yeah, that's the part number in the UK manual which I think has different part numbers?

The part sent to me conforms with the part# in the Vespa Price List .pdf on the Vespa USA web site.
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That seems like it would make a huge difference on the reinstall.

It doesn't even look like it's a brand new part.
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Hmm... my info suggests 82751R - perhaps they have a numerically dyslexic parts picker - it has been known!
Yeah, that's the part number in the UK manual which I think has different part numbers?

The part sent to me conforms with the part# in the Vespa Price List .pdf on the Vespa USA web site.
There's no need for a different part number in this case. There's no US/UK difference, and my number came from an EU-wide parts catalogue, as well as a USA parts list - I did double-check!

Also, any sensible parts numbering system would ensure that possibly similar (but actually different ones) would NOT have all the same digits but in a different order. But this is Piaggio, so you'll have to jump through hoops to bitch about it.

Another reason to always buy parts from your local dealer - you can refuse them on collection as not being the right bits. Happens to me all the time, it's part of some game invented by mice whose rules I haven't yet fathomed...
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The part changed. The bit that used to be welded on is now a spacer with a separate part number. if I was at a computer, I could get you that number.
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Older one looks better made than the newer one IMOH
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The part changed. The bit that used to be welded on is now a spacer with a separate part number. if I was at a computer, I could get you that number.
So, it looks like they've made it like the BV200.

The spacer for the BV is part # 827877

Page 30 from the manual, unfortunately a stab in the dark.
Maybe a starting place in your hunt for answers ?

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Should I just return it? The old clutch isn't bad, just a little glazed.. They guy at the repair shop said I would need a new one soon but I don't really think so.

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You do not need a new bell unless its warped or out of round.

Mine is bluish on the outside, but round & smooth.

Thanx for alerting everyone to the change in parts compatibility....

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Not to change the subject, but does anyone have any opinions to offer regarding bell replacement? In an effort to rid my vespa of the shuddering clutch issue, I purchased an aftermarket clutch and installed it today. Guy form the scooter parts place said I should be good to go. Should I have replaced it entirely? I haven't been able to start it and ride around town yet, somehow managed to blow a fuse with the battery replacement I did as well . Thanks in advance!
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What a surprise. Asses.
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The part changed. The bit that used to be welded on is now a spacer with a separate part number. ...
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Not to change the subject, but does anyone have any opinions to offer regarding bell replacement? In an effort to rid my vespa of the shuddering clutch issue, I purchased an aftermarket clutch and installed it today. Guy form the scooter parts place said I should be good to go. Should I have replaced it entirely? I haven't been able to start it and ride around town yet, somehow managed to blow a fuse with the battery replacement I did as well . Thanks in advance!
Well this whole thing started because my clutch was making a noise as well. Turns out the the clutch pads were ever so slightly uneven causing them to touch down on the bell a different times and vibrating making a horrible noise. This required a whole new clutch to fix. Keep in mind it was off by fractions of millimeters. So far my issue did not fit the description of the other " clutch shudder " problems. Quite possibly a bell will fix it or may try a new clutch. I went for the Polini and not only is the noise gone but it grabs much much better than the stock clutch.
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