Modern Vespa

What is it California doesn't like about the Stella and why? What's the big concern?

2-stroke emissions. the planet will implode if you register one.

Good taste? Prejudice against poorly cast Indian knock-off Vespas?


Yeah, actually it's the 2-stroke thing.

Good taste? Prejudice against poorly cast Indian knock-off Vespas?


Are they poorly made?

kinda. I'd just say emissions though since the the Rattler 110 is 2T.

They had to do a bunch of stuff just to make the Stella squeak by emissions laws for the REST of the states...

Puny designed reed block on the carb ? a restrictive catalytic exhaust that's basically disposable because it cokes itself out within 250 miles? A tiny carb?

All done just to meet standard US emissions laws.

it depends upon your level of expectations. i think they're well made, but then again, i just expect random shit to fall off my bike while i'm driving down the road.

No kidding, going by what you ride, you can't be spoiled.

What Eric said.

And they aren't poorly made but some definite bodgery was done to get them to eek by emissions in the other 49 states.

They are cheaply made, how about that? Paint is of lesser quality, welds aren't as nice (or finished), some of the other stuff was done on the "cheap enough to get by"

Also shouldn't a topic about a "new" scooter that is nothing more than a recast 30 year old scooter be in the NSM section?

Don't worry, the new 4 Stroke Stella is coming out soon.....

You mean the Bajaj Chetak?

same engine?
I thought they were different 4 stroke engine.

different engine. He's screwing with you.

That's what I thought..

Bajaj.. ugly mofo....

Looks like a P series

http://scoot.net/gallery/pic.html?pic=207275

to be fair, someone replaced the horncast in that picture with a p-series one. I think the bajaj horncast is probably the most recognizable part of that bike...distinguishing it from a p-series the most.

let's talk about why everyone is bashing my bike collection.

You know that was Spiny Norman and then my bike, right?



That SOB is still running, despite my best efforts to destroy it during a snow storm and WOT up and down I-95 to Philly a couple of times (new owner though)

i didn't know that, no.

Yeah, Martin modded it out.

There are several new 2-strokes for sale in CA, most under 125cc. And you can register Stellas here-they just need to have 7500+ miles on the odometer or be more than 2 model years old. The whole back end has been redesigned to accommodate the new engine. Genuine is very aware of the stigma of the Chetak 4Ts and spent years working with LML to get the US version of the 4T Stella where they wanted it. Don't know exactly how it'll perform-guess we find out next year when it hits dealers.

Bryan at 2strokebuzz is the only person outside Genuine who's ridden one (and been allowed to talk about it):
http://2strokebuzz.com/2009/05/07/the-new-stella-unveiled

Not entirely true, UK LML specialist Eddy Bullet has as well (and he has the video to prove it!):

http://pub22.bravenet.com/forum/static/show.php?usernum=1876829250&frmid=58&msgid=676560&cmd=show

That's not a Stella, it's an LML Star!
Good find!