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Anybody can tell me if there are any trouble free, quality Bar end mirrors kits available, for a 2005 PX 150. I really like the Cafe style.

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Kinda hard to run bar-end mirrors on a scooter as you are always turning the gear shift, and even on the throttle side you are turning the entire tube instead of just rotating a throttle sleeve around stationary bars as you would on most motorcycles.

I've seen it done on a scoot, but that guy only had a working mirror in 4th gear.
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i do not see how it could work well on a shifty.
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I have an IDEA how it could work, but it would take serious modification to the tubes. You could put in some sort of floating insert... say, another tube of a smaller diameter inside your existing tube. You could weight this tube on one side so it would always be facing the same direction, mo matter which orientation your throttle or shifter tube were turned.

the key is how to make it free-floating enough to overcoming the friction of metal on metal between the two tubes. Bearings?
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Wouldn't the whole mirror spin around in the wind then? Or have I read wrong
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Rover Eric wrote:
I have an IDEA how it could work, but it would take serious modification to the tubes. You could put in some sort of floating insert... say, another tube of a smaller diameter inside your existing tube. You could weight this tube on one side so it would always be facing the same direction, mo matter which orientation your throttle or shifter tube were turned.

the key is how to make it free-floating enough to overcoming the friction of metal on metal between the two tubes. Bearings?
Haha.... yeah, I have envisioned such a contraption as well. Was thinking you'd have to have a rod extending through the tubes and then anchored inside the headset, with, as you said, bearings in the tubes to keep it centered and steady at the ends. Would definitely turn some heads.
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I found this info with one of the on-line venders advertisement.

When installing a movable mirror, use a fixed indicator tube from the ET3, or attach the mirror with a metal rod with a screw end through the underside of the handlebar. This prevents the mirror from turning when you shift.

I wonder would it be best to have some sort of smooth seal bearing with this design to prevent any impairments in shifting or hang up. Also, this of course would add weight and rotational mass.

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Revelation: I was just checking an on-line Heinkel Tourist owners manual to see if they were foot-shift (foot-shift scooters on the mind lately) and noticed that in fact, they are twist-grip shift, but a diagram in the manual pictures a stock model with a bar end mirror on the left side.

Specialists, take it away from here, cause I know jack and just came across that tid-bid by chance.
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I can't imagine that even if they were able to be mounted that they'd be useable due to the vibration.
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CORSA IFP wrote:
I can't imagine that even if they were able to be mounted that they'd be useable due to the vibration.
There isnt a bike made that vibrates more than my KTM 640, stock mirrors were absolutely worthless.

Fitted bar end mirror from "bikemaster" and were gobsmacked.
Rear view is crystal clear no matter the RPM
Would love to be able to fit one to my PX

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Wibbo wrote:
There isnt a bike made that vibrates more than my KTM 640, stock mirrors were absolutely worthless.
Ever ridden an RD?
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I have some EMGO bar end mirrors on a Ducati GT1000 - they make every ride seem like there's an earthquake on your tail when you look in them!
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probably be easier to stick with the shield mount
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almost 30 years ago i got my 1st p. i had a guy down in orange county (CA) make me some killer under-the-handle bar/grip mirrors. they looked and worked great. very clean and minimal look that was functional as well.

they were not bar-end, but he somehow worked/bent/shortened the mirror stems off the brackets that were mounted underneath the headset.

the px's have mirror mounts on top of the headset as you all know. but, they also still have the older p holes underneath the headset.

i currently have 2 px's. both running w/out mirrors. i, too, would love to run either the set-up i mentioned above, or bar-end mirrors. bar-end mirrors would be my ultimate choice. but, i've been told by many people that these are not possible on twisty grips.

i have asked about this on this site and on the stellaspeed site with no success. members gave me photos of people who did something like i mentioned above (mirrors below the hand grips coming off the the brackets under the headset) but none of those looked very appealing or even close to what that guy did for me 30 years ago. they all looked sloppy to me and broke the beautiful line you have off that headset, which bar-end mirrors i think would continue.

please keep me posted on this. i've been looking for what you've been looking for for several years now. let me know if you find it!

thanks.

john
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