Modern Vespa

Hey, does anyone know who or where I might be able to get a sidecar fitted on my scooter?

Thanks.

I forgot to mention that I am on Long Island (NY).

That might be helpful to know. hah

buy a car make sure the bracket is for a p and bolt it on yourself

ScootersO, in orange NJ

973.672.6600

tell andrea that greasy says hi!

best,
-greasy

i actually already called them and they told me they couldnt do it.

Those cozy sidecars are a direct fit for the P200 (the ones that are sold for Stellas).

I am not aware of any other commercially made one (current) that fits.

If you are lucky, you can find one of the old California Sidecars - they are really nice match for the p200.

http://www.watsonian-squire.com/lightweight_sidecars.html

Do you have the sidecar already? Or are you looking for one?

I am looking to get one right now, but i was wondering if it would be better to get one and then find a place to install or have one place order and install.

I imported one made by Cozy directly from India and was able to get one that has a shock absorber and is very easily adjusted. It's a model not carried by any of the shops in the US. I followed the directions that came from a website. Although my sidecar was MUCH easier to adjust due the design of it. If you're fairly handy, you shouldn't have any problem. I found this link that details the assembly, installation and adjustment for the Cozy sidecar. Good luck.

http://www.public.iastate.edu/~gbh/VespaSidecar/

I saw one on cl here in Minneapolis recently that I half thought about. Storing them has to be a pain in the ass though.

American Scooter Center Austin Tx
Got mine there.
Nice Guys.
About $1,800 + shipping
http://www.americanscootercenter.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=101&products_id=809

go custom and freak people out

Hey Rickey hows the ol PX doing? I miss the shit out of it! Have you ever been on a bike with a side car? Alot of people think that its easy and trust me its not you have to be really on your toes at all times! The first time I was on one the first right hand turn I was going a little to fast and the side car came up in the air and scared me half to death After riding you will get used to it but it is a different ride for sure? Why the side car? For storage??

or you could use a plastic pig

Come on guys, those are pics of Motorcycles with sidecars. You need a scooter sized sidecar:



BTW - I love my P200 with California sidecar - great combo!

I havent been on in a while and didnt realize that there were all these responses. Some of those side cars are pretty sweet. I was thinking of something a little more conventional though. How about this one:

http://www.scooterworks.com/Sidecar_-_10_inch_Rocket_Style_P3918C396.cfm

I am pretty sure it is a cozy car and it is on sale right now.

Jeff - I love the scooter and rode it pretty much everyday untill it got too cold. i wish i could use it now but I am too much of a wimp to jump on it once it fell below 40 degrees. The main reason i want a sidecar is so I can use it more. I need to bring my dog with me a lot of places and without the sidecar it is impossible to use the scooter. I've never driven a sidecar before so i will have to take it to a lot and practice a little. I just hope that it doenst take away some of the fun of driving the scooter everywhere.

yes but you cant steer that from in the car

My lab usually is ready to jump in anything and go for a ride, but she hates the noise of the scooter exhaust and engine. You might try them on the noise first.

Obviously the engine is not on here.

Try this link for some really beautiful Vespa sidecars

http://www.arsscoot.com/gallery.php

Osh

Email this link http://www.arsscoot.com/gallery.php about 3 months ago, never got response from them.
Anyone here try to mount the California sidecar to the wide body vespa? Anny tips and tricks how to mount it? Not means to hijacked your thread, seem like on the same topic

Those are asian bodge sidecars and Vespas, I would not recommend them.

Look for a Cozy or better yet a California sidecar.

The California Sidecar folks are still in business, but they haven't made scooter cars for many years. They have no parts or drawings or mounting instructions, and basically don't want to talk to you. The purple one you see with my dog is a California car. It has a very simple mounting method with a big flat steel plate that bolts to the big flat bottom of the older Vespas. Mine is on a P200. The newer Vespas arn't shaped the same and have lots of plastic down low. You might be able to get a custom metal working shop to fabricate something for you, but it would be chancy.

How about the Texas Sidecars? Somebody on this forum has experience with them.

Edit: here you go http://www.texassidecars.com/Scooter.htm

Ooops!
For some reason, I thought it was an Italian site, although I've no rational reason for making that assumption...Duh!
Thank's for the warning though, LittleBlueDisaster.

I've had a thing for sidecars for a while now and even toyed with the idea of an Ural Combo for a while, mostly because they looked very classic and also had a reverse gear, but these days they're the best part of £9,000, which is starting to get into automobile territory and they're really not worth that.

I do like the "Steib" like styling of the Cozy though, so if I do get one for the PX at some point, that's the brand I'll choose
Osh

Scored a good condition California sidecar durring newyear. Plan to fit it onto widebody handle bike but haven't find anny instruction or know anyone have mout it before. looks like I have to drill more holes to mount it to a widebody.

Sidecars are really a drag on engines. The lighter the better, such as the Cal. Sidecar.

That's why the California is the best if you can find one - that's also what I run on my P200 and it hardly puts any extra drag on the performance of the bike (when empty of course). Certainly welcome - I saw one of those in person last fall up at the Sidestrider shop here in LA, where it was being "fixed". The construction of the sidecar frame was downright scary. Please, anyone looking for a sidecar, avoid these bodge-made ones.

You are aware that the Cozy Rocket weighs almost 350 lbs, according to the ScooterWorks vendor I called today? You really want to put that on an approximately 250 lb P200?

California sidecar once made a car suitable for Vespas, but does no longer.

I know you guys are going to hate hearing this, but it seems to me the best option for scooter cars is Scooter99, an Indonesian vendor/manufacturer, if they beefed up their frames a bit. Or finding a used California, of course.

Pam

Yep. My California "Sidekick" model weighs only 70 pounds (I have the original brochure) - I wouldn't trade it for anything.

But I would certainly choose a Cozy over a Scooter99 deathtrap anyday, heavier or not.

The new Scooterworks catalog arrived today - they have the Cozy on sale for 1699.

Arsscoot sidecar weight approx. 180lbs. In 2 models.

I'm not at all sure that a 350 lb car on a P200 is not also a deathtrap. What besides the frame makes the scooter99 a deathtrap? I already agreed that the frame would have to be beefed up.

I'm very jealous of your Sidekick, would love to find one in almost any condition. How is it mounted to your scooter? Special subframe?

Pam

I got a response to an email to Arsscoot, very fast response Here's the bad news:

"Thank you, for visiting the website. We provide restored Vespas from the
60's-80's with new Arsscoot sidecars. For the time being, we have 2 Arsscoot
sidecar designs as follows:

1. Type 1: It's designed with sophisticate features as mentioned in the
specification.

2. Type 2: This design is the improvement of type 1 design sidecar. It is
improved with more elaborate frame design and two additional shock-absorbers
to support the sidecar seat. This way the sidecar passenger will feel more
comfortable.

Both designs offer more comfortable riding and stability. It is overcome the
steering bar shaking problem due to imbalance wheel condition. The better
breaking system which results the balance breaking sequences between the
scooter and the sidecar. This way the sidecar will not push the scooter
aside every time the scooter breaks.

Please view the attached restored Vespa and Arsscoot sidecar sample picture
of each type in standard condition.

We offer the price of USD 3,990 per unit of Vespa with sidecar. This price
is applicable for either type. You may order your preferred color
combination or from our ready stock units of 150cc restored VBB Vespa with
Type 1 sidecar in red/white combination and silver/white combination and
200cc restored PXE Vespa with Type 1 sidecar in turquoise blue/white
combination.

Please advice your location in order to get the shipping cost quotation from
our shipping agent.

Please note that we are different company from Scooter 99. We have different
detail and features offered.

Should you need more information, please feel free to send us emails. Look
forward to hearing your feedback.

Best regards,
Sylvia

Visit us at www.arsscoot.com"

Hi Pam -

I don't think the Cozy sidecar is 350 pounds - all the literature I have read on it states that it is 180 pounds.

Best of luck on your search - don't be discouraged, they do come up for sale just about the time you think you will never find one.

I bought a car today, but not a Sidekick, got a Spirit of America Eagle which is supposed to weight 100-140 lbs. I'll have to build a subframe for it and perhaps rebuild the tub for length and change the wheel. I'll start getting excited when it arrives, which may be later today. If it turns out not to work on the P200E, I'll hang it on my beemer.

However, you still haven't told me why you consider the Scooter99 a deathtrap. I really want to know.

Perhaps the Cozy salesperson was giving me the entire weight, including subframe? There's a lot of difference between 180 and 350 lbs, hard to believe she'd want to overstate this.

Thanks,
Pam

I bought a car today, but not a Sidekick, got a Spirit of America Eagle which is supposed to weight 100-140 lbs. I'll have to build a subframe for it and perhaps rebuild the tub for length and change the wheel. I'll start getting excited when it arrives, which may be later today. If it turns out not to work on the P200E, I'll hang it on my beemer.

However, you still haven't told me why you consider the Scooter99 a deathtrap. I really want to know.

Perhaps the Cozy salesperson was giving me the entire weight, including subframe? There's a lot of difference between 180 and 350 lbs, hard to believe she'd want to overstate this.

Thanks,
Pam

Congrats on finding one - that's awesome. Post some pics when you get it. If you need help with the frame, contact Doug Bingham at sidestrider, he is a sidecar genius and can build a frame or any component you need.

The scoot99 I saw had really tiny frame bars, and they seemed very thin walled as well - looked scary to me. Also, simply the fact that they are made on a dirt floor at a Viet-Bodge factory leads me to distrust them even more.

Scooterworks lists the shipping weight of a cozy rocket at 200 pounds, and that includes the crate. ASC list the weight of the car at 180 lbs also: http://www.americanscootercenter.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=49&products_id=787

Maybe your salesperson confused the motorcycle version of the cozy? The MC version has added weight to balance a MC.

Sure, photos to come.

I think the Scooter99 frames look a bit flimsy; but they say they use "¾ inch tubular seamless pipe," which should be strong enough if the bends are reinforced. They warn that the passenger should weigh less than 170 lbs. They're certainly the prettiest cars being made today for the Vespa, much like your Sidekick; and the price is right.

I couldn't get a Cozy shipping weight out of the Scooterworks system, so I had to rely on the salesperson. She may have been wrong, may have quoted the big bike weight, but I had nothing else to go on. As for Austin Scooters, I don't trust anything they say. That page is 4 or 5 years old, and they're so xenophobic and generally rude (over the phone when they have no idea to whom they're speaking), that I find them truly odious. I don't want them to help them prosper.

And, of course, the Eagle is significantly cheaper than any of the new ones and is in excellent condition.

Thanks for the Bingham referral, certainly not the first time I've come across his name. The local shop who installed our trailer hitch have a full welding shop, so I'll try them first for the subframe and P200 repair (big rust gap front to back in the floorboard right next to the hump).

Pam

congratz pam, u finally got it now enjoy the project and scoot around austin when it finished

cheer

My plans exactly, thanks.

Pam