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Just saw this item today on Custom Dynamics website....

http://www.customdynamics.com/safe_ride_system.htm

New Advanced Technology now allows for the Safe Ride light to activate SECONDS before your brake light....

........SECONDS SAVE LIVES........

Finally....

Peace of mind from annoying tailgaters!

Warn vehicles behind you when you decelerate

Avoid Injuries, Costly Repairs and Downtime

Superior Advanced Technology!

Microprocessor~ G-Force Activated

Works with ANY reduction of speed

Downshifting or sudden throttle reduction

Strobes for maximum attention

Also works when you apply your brakes!

Easy to install

Designed to last

3 YEAR WARRANTY

Proudly Made in the U.S.A.

Full waterproof construction

Warn Others When You Are Slowing Down!!!

G-Force Deceleration Alert System
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I wouldn't want my brake light going on every time I decelerate.

I understand the philosophy but the guy driving behind you will probably want to run you over just because your taillight keeps coming on so often.


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I think that's pretty neat. It's much more applicable to a geared bike, where drastic deceleration can be achieved without ever touching the brakes. Still, I would seriously consider it.
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That sounds interesting at first moment and I appreciate you posting about it. It must be what some Cadillacs and Lincolns with old ladies behind the wheel have installed, where the brake lights come on constantly as soon as they coast in traffic. Makes me not pay attention to their lights after a short while, and I'm afraid that's the same effect it would have on others, if it is on a scooter, which they want to have behind them anyway, so they'll pass it.

In that sense, it is a helpful product. An impatient cager in front of us is safer.
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jess wrote:
I think that's pretty neat. It's much more applicable to a geared bike, where drastic deceleration can be achieved ...
Maybe something has been wrong with my GTS from day one, but when I roll off the throttle, it quite drastically decelerates--drastically enough to force a closely following vehicle to apply some brake or else get too close to me.
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windbreaker wrote:
Maybe something has been wrong with my GTS from day one, but when I roll off the throttle, it quite drastically decelerates--drastically enough to force a closely following vehicle to apply some brake or else get too close to me.
I don't think anything's wrong with your GTS, it's just that on a motorcycle, the effect is significantly more pronounced.
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Re: Safe Ride G Force Module...
Ifixjets wrote:
Just saw this item today on Custom Dynamics website....

http://www.customdynamics.com/safe_ride_system.htm

Great find! Thanks! I like it!
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windbreaker wrote:
That sounds interesting at first moment and I appreciate you posting about it. It must be what some Cadillacs and Lincolns with old ladies behind the wheel have installed, where the brake lights come on constantly as soon as they coast in traffic. Makes me not pay attention to their lights after a short while, and I'm afraid that's the same effect it would have on others, if it is on a scooter, which they want to have behind them anyway, so they'll pass it.
I think your extrapolation has over-reached. First, it's not at all clear that this is the same product, or that the little old ladies even have such a device in their cars. Second, this product strobes on deceleration, which is much more likely to grab a distracted cagers attention. The threshold of deceleration at which it starts isn't clear, but I think to simply write it off as dangerous based on assumptions is about as useful as the Brits who assume that our modulated headlights would encourage cars to turn in front of us.
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From a human psychology point of view, I have to agree with the desensitization idea - if everyone had these, people would learn to ignore them since it would mean that the vehicle is not really stopping. Just like people ignore the yellow blinking pedestrian crossing point lights and run over people. We need to be careful with a tool like a breaklight and not over use it. It's the break light equivalent of calling wolf.
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if everyone had these, people would learn to ignore them since it would mean that the vehicle is not really stopping.
I disagree with the premise by which you've dismissed this. It's deceleration that we're talking about. Stopping may or may not be the eventual result, but that doesn't mean that deceleration is unimportant to everyone on the road.
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In a word or two----It's too expensive.
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LED brake light + Back Off XP modulator consideration
Recently install LED tailight from V-Leds...seems a bit more noticeable during (need to insure you pick up "red" LED if you have red lenss) + Back Off XP modulator unit.

This was the LED bulb configuration for my GT 200:

http://www.v-leds.com/Exterior-LED/Brake-Light-LED/Red-LED/2-RED-SMT-18-LED-TAIL-p4481057.html ~$23.00 a pair.

This is the Back Off XP (works with incandescent and LED bulbs) modulator the completed install. Can be set up with:

1. Repetitive 3 blink + steady on and will repeat as long as brake applied or...

2. 5 blinks + steady on and repeats only if your reapply brake (more in line with standard braking sequence taught at MSF).

http://66.252.233.21/products/Modules/xp.asp ~ $40.00

Believe both LED brakelights and Back Off modulator have been discussed in the past either together or as separate topic(s).

Possible option(s) to consider.
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During the limited-access highway test for your full M license, the examiner wants to see your brake light come on when you are decelerating on the off ramp, even though a scooter can decelerate without touching the brake. It stops the driver behind you from running into you, and the examiners are really picky about this one. This device should do the same thing.

Cheers,
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jess wrote:
windbreaker wrote:
That sounds interesting at first moment and I appreciate you posting about it. It must be what some Cadillacs and Lincolns with old ladies behind the wheel have installed, where the brake lights come on constantly as soon as they coast in traffic. Makes me not pay attention to their lights after a short while, and I'm afraid that's the same effect it would have on others, if it is on a scooter, which they want to have behind them anyway, so they'll pass it.

In that sense, it is a helpful product. An impatient cager in front of us is safer..
I think your extrapolation has over-reached. First, it's not at all clear that this is the same product, or that the little old ladies even have such a device in their cars.
That is not the point. The point is that their brake lights come on when they hardly slow down, repeatedly. It might be their right foot, or this G-Force Module--the wear-out effect is the same.
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Second, this product strobes on deceleration, which is much more likely to grab a distracted cagers attention.
Correct. I missed that feature. Still, it may tire the following driver, if no real deceleration takes place.
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... to simply write it off as dangerous based on assumptions is about as useful as ...
I have neither actually said nor did I intend to mean that it is dangerous. What I did was doubt it's effectiveness.
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Fail. It's just going to piss off the already agitated tailgater even more.
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Does anyone know what the difference is between the normal version and the California specific version?
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California has a law that allows brake light modulators but only allow them to blink for a few seconds, four times max, then go steady. Other states allow them to blink continuously until the brake is released.
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That'd be great for the highway,
Considering I tend to let the engine slow me down rather than using the brakes.
Those tailgators certainly get close when I slow down too.

Thanks for the bookmark, Added to my scooter search folder in Safari.

Cheers!

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Re: Safe Ride G Force Module...
Ifixjets wrote:
Just saw this item today on Custom Dynamics website....

http://www.customdynamics.com/safe_ride_system.htm

New Advanced Technology now allows for the Safe Ride light to activate SECONDS before your brake light....

........SECONDS SAVE LIVES........

I have a spare one of these .... it has harley davidson connections on it .. but you can cut them off and install on your scoots. Selling it on eBay for "Buy it now" for $49.95 plus shipping starting tomorrow afternoon. That's $75 less than retail ...

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