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What a concept, They could do that here too, That'd be great,
Having pictures of a bicycle every two feet is a nice reminder that the path is for bicycles.

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I am sure Donald Norman would have a thing or two to say about usability and cognitive ergonomics in this instance.
Am I the only one who finds the little blue signposts contradictory to the painted pathway marking? Wha? emoticon
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Anyone else notice that the cyclist is driving on the wrong side?

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Seems so over-done that it nothing more than clutter and graffitti.

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Seems so over-done that it nothing more than clutter and graffitti.

Eyesore.
Agreed. My big bruvver wot lives in England complains bitterly about the huge amount of "road graffiti" that he says is everywhere.

Why not have a couple of arrows every few hundred feet or at a significant point? E.g. a corner or sidewalk intersection.

Better yet, announce in the "Rules of the Road" to keep left on bicycle paths.
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I'd get a headache if I rode on that bike path. It does seem like a lot of overkill and, as you can see, still doesn't completely solve the problem.

Stupid people do stupid things. When I was last riding the boardwalk at Virginia Beach, there would always be the clueless walking along the clearly marked bicycle paths or cyclists riding on the wrong side.

I used to ride the Montour trail weekly. There are signs stating the rules of the trail, including right of way, how to signal intentions to pass (the trail is for bikes and foot traffic), etc., and these are placed only at the entrance and exit points. There are small mile-markers, too.

It's a beautiful country ride.
With the occasional stupid person as always. The vast majority "get it."

But I wouldn't want to see either place cluttered up with signage like that.
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Stupid people do stupid things. When I was last riding the boardwalk at Virginia Beach, there would always be the clueless walking along the clearly marked bicycle paths or cyclists riding on the wrong side.
That is what bicycle bells are for. A gentle 'ding-ding' gets the message across.
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That is what bicycle bells are for. A gentle 'ding-ding' gets the message across.
Give each pedestrian a nice piece of ash or poplar, that will teach traffic seperation rules.
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Yea; why do the little blue signs show pedestrians on the left, and bikes on the right? And the writing on the roadway implying the opposite - I would just ride in the middle because all the signs are confusing and contradictory.
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Yea; why do the little blue signs show pedestrians on the left, and bikes on the right? And the writing on the roadway implying the opposite - I would just ride in the middle because all the signs are confusing and contradictory.
Pedestrians to the left of the posts and bikes to the right.

Story is from England so bike shoud be in the left of the two bike lanes as per the markings on the pavement. Click the link and you can read the article in a British paper.
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Yea; I realize that, but, don't the signs seem confusing, in just by themselves?
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That is what bicycle bells are for. A gentle 'ding-ding' gets the message across.
If only that were true. Here in New York you get "meanderthals" walking six abreast with their backs to traffic on the bike paths and totally oblivious to bells and pretty much everything else. Mostly tourists, needless to say.

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Stupid people do stupid things. When I was last riding the boardwalk at Virginia Beach, there would always be the clueless walking along the clearly marked bicycle paths or cyclists riding on the wrong side.
That is what bicycle bells are for. A gentle 'ding-ding' gets the message across.
I know what a bicycle bell is for. Duh.
Unfortunately, the rental bikes there didn't have them.
The last time I visited, I decided to bring my own bike. It has a bell.
And some people were still stupid.
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Menhir wrote:
Stupid people do stupid things. When I was last riding the boardwalk at Virginia Beach, there would always be the clueless walking along the clearly marked bicycle paths or cyclists riding on the wrong side.
That is what bicycle bells are for. A gentle 'ding-ding' gets the message across.
Tried the "ding / ding" (brass bell) and pedestrians have virtually tuned it out...believe me I know...resorted to yelling...that worked. Got tired and am contemplating a handle bar mounted air horn (ala Stebel).

Will also take same horn with me on my walks...it's dangerous out there! Between dodging autos when crossing in a "marked" cross walk or driveways and the bicyclists coming up from behind (while on sidewalk) with no "ding ding" warning (get it???)...it's darn dangerous!

Hmmm...maybe I should take the air horn and wear my helmet and armor...
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I am sure Donald Norman would have a thing or two to say about usability and cognitive ergonomics in this instance.
Am I the only one who finds the little blue signposts contradictory to the painted pathway marking? Wha? emoticon
I am sure Jimmy Reason would say more;
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Blocking out the scenery breaking my mind
Do this, don't do that, can't you read the sign

Hey. Per the picture. The cyclist is alone and can ride anywhere. It is only if someone else shows up that the side of the path ridden on matters.

So all you long haired freaky people just calm down and be glad that: A) there is a bike path, and B) riders use it.

Reminds me: I went back to England recently (heck, that was January, where did the time go? Must be getting old. Getting? I AM old) where was I? Oh yes. I had no trouble driving the rental car on whatever side of the road was appropriate. The problem came walking through a busy pedestrian area. In the US we folks drive on the right and hence tend to walk on the right, especially in an oncoming passing situation. In the UK it is the left. So I would meet someone face to face and step left. He would step right. I'd step right. He'd go left. We'd do the hokey pokey and eventually manage to go by one another.
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Looks like you folks in London will be slowing down soon.
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/12/091210193202.htm
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Looks like you folks in London will be slowing down soon.
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/12/091210193202.htm
I think a lot of drivers here would be elated if they went that fast!
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i liked this reply on the site the ic was posted:-

"It is possible the bicyclist may be American. In the USA we must all obey the rule that says we must travel on the right, whether in a car, on a bicycle, or on foot. If we stray to the left then we run the risk of running into oncoming traffic. Even in grocery stores, where there might be a kiosk set up in the center aisle, although this rule is actually unwritten, people strive to follow this rule. If he isn't American, then I would agree with those who say he is irresponsible, stubborn or just stupid."

if the writer of this reply was to visit England would they expect to travel on the right?? "all Americans must drive / ride on the right because it's what they do at home....... killed in minutes.........

reminded me of a joke i heard where Ireland was going to change from driving on the left to driving on the right, they were going to change over in stages, lorries and buses this week, cars and vans next week
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if the writer of this reply was to visit England would they expect to travel on the right?? "all Americans must drive / ride on the right because it's what they do at home....... killed in minutes.........

Blame Henry Ford for that. Bloody cars......

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