Modern Vespa

There is a discussion going on, on the Dutchclub forum about placing 4 reflectors in a 250/400 unit

I was thinking about buying a second unit and grind pieces of that one and place them under the orginal refelctors ( silverbowls )
and weld them with a plasticweld and some glassvibersheets

any one, any other bright ideas?????


see link and translte wth google or something else

http://www.piaggiomp3club.nl/dotnetnuke/Forum/tabid/58/forumid/24/scope/threads/language/en-US/Default.aspx

why on earth would you do that?

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first better visablety the netherladnds is a wet country rain, fog so other drivers will see you sooner

second most people drive also late in the evening and night so every want to see as much as possible thats why i did the fuoco front conversion but now there is a member who don't like the looks of the Fuoco/500 so now we are thinking to fit 2 low beams and 2 high beams in a 250/400 unit


The 2 lights mod don't solve the problem all the time

Like this

Oh i see! I thought you were talking about adding more turn signal lights...
I'll do the 2 extra front position lights mod as soon as i receive my buzzer for an audible turn signal reminder. I've already got 2 white super bright inverted leds for this mod. If you want more visibility on an mp3 LT you could check out my taillights..
My mp3 mods Xenon, leds, etc?highlight=

that's not what we are looking for :p there are dutch club members that drive with 2 100watt super white xenon look bulbs

but everybody wants to be able to switch between high and lowbeam when you do the mod for the 2 lights you have to set the highbeam lower because the on coming traffic so we are looking for something to put in the unit so you have 2 high and 2 low beams

my idea don't work the reflector is 1cm to big so that one won't fit

If you are looking to add lights to allow others to see you more, do you need to have 100 Watt lamps? 100 Watt lamps are great as headlamps but too bright for fog. Much of the extra light is reflected back at you in the fog.

Would a series of smaller LED lamps be better?

They are looking for better personal visibility - so they can tell (in fog, mist or rain) where the road and drunken 50cc riders are.

All this was considered long and hard with X9s. Luckily with them there was an earlier model (250SL) that had both lights on main or high-beam.

Maksor, without spending loads of money on a custom (university project?) design, it's a practical no-no to keep proper beam alignment.

we have a solution but that one is less beautyfull

exchange the highbeam reflecotor in the unit for a lowbeam and fit a external highbeam on the outside where the emblem is of piaggio on the V shaped cover


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and we would like to do it for both reasons so you can see better and futher away and that other drivers will see you better in the city's most think that it is a mopped (50cc) so thay don't give you the rightaway

For me they fuoco conversion solved that problem


And the X9 conversion everybody was doing that overhere you should think piaggio has learned but they did they same with the mp3 one little lowbeam

i've send a mail to Hella they will try to help maybe they got H4 reflectors or they make a complete new unit will be continued

i found these



Headlight 90 mm Bi-Xenon for left-hand traffic

Part no.: 1LL 009 997-011

Me too, me too!
When you get two main and two dipped for a 250/400 buy me one too!
Fay

Fay when we figured it out i let you know it lookes like it we are going for the three lights optiion with the new chrome lightunit

the hella xenon are to expensive 300 +euro

Chrome lightunit


when you buy that one you can use the reflector of you old one to replace the highbeam for a low/dip and place another foglight as high where the Piaggio emblem is on the V shaped cover

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yesterday evening i found also, 135mm H4 reflector the orginals are 100mm H1 i need a light unit to figure out how to place them
and what to adjust and cut away in the unit

thats the first thing i need is a unit

oke i'm this far with the project


seperated the unit in two pieces




and there is this much room behind the mirrors


Bought these lights

the pic is one with 1 H4 and 1 H7 in the netherlands officialy you have to fit them a motorcycle isn't alou to have 2 highbeams here

But i've ordered the 2× H4 type


Toke out the org. mirror and this is the backside




Both old and new


Front


new ones fitted loose in the unit


the old ones

Have to make 3 brackets to fit them and then they will be adjustable

Hi Maksor:
I'm admired!! very nice and helpful project, lighting is one of the MP3 problems.
Have you thought about heat disipation? how many W are the new lamps?

H4 is 55 and 60

55watts for the lowbeam
60 for the high

And these won't get any hotter then the stock 55w H1
because there is a clear lens fitted so all the heat will go out the back

so it won't give a white haze on the clearplastic of the unit the H1 will do that eventualy

Lowbeam


Highbeam

Right side


Left side



High

Low

the new unit has 4× sidelights 5watts (only two are burning the others didn't had the wiring yet)

here are 2 pictures that show how i connected the inner unit to the orginal unit

Lowbeam


Highbeam


and the second set they are adjustable now

so all you did was replace the bulbs?
I want to do this mod if possible for a 250.
Do you have to do the wire mod still (both lights on mod?

Been away from this for a while.

Am I to understand you have cracked the problem of the two dipped two main beam headlights, to stop people telling me that I have a light not working would be enough, to get better on the road lighting as well.........

You are a genius.

Fay[/i]

no i've changed the mirrors inside the unit for the H4 types

thnx fay i had a solution for H.I.D. /Xenon to more expensive


search on "specialy for Fay "

Right, I at least ,am with the program, but knowing me, it is not practical to take out my headlight unit, do the conversion, and put it back.

I will take out the headlight unit, run into some snags, decide to go for a run on the Lambretta, come back to it, make some progress, not have the plastic weld around, track some down, and then a couple of months later, having wrecked the dining room, finally get it finished.

So, given the fact that I will have to start with a spare 'OE' light unit and build from scratch, arriving at a plug and play replacement that will allow me to have a fair chance of not having the Mp3 off the road for six months, is there a shopping list of what I need to assemble one of my very own, Blue Peter Style. (A reference here to a very long running kids TV program that encouraged children to build a moon probe from six toilet rolls, an empty washing up bottle, and yards of sticky back plastic, 'get down shep' )

That is:-

You will need a dee daH dee dah dee dah , an ojameflip and three doohickies, stick part a to part b etc. Then when I am left with a spare unaltered unit, I can pass it on, like an Olympic torch to the next modder.

I have waited Three years for this. I had plans and ideas of my own, but work, life, and ride outs on the Lammy rather got in the way.

Fondest,
Fay

you could buy an extra unit and convert that one TO H4


for instant the new chrome one out of the hybrid that one cost 147 euro's

Did you say 'chrome'? Saving the pennies from now!
Fay

yes this one




if you buy this one and convert it to H4, you need to find lights that you can screw on to the bottum of the lightunit and then your oke like the pictures showen above

thats the easiest way there are examples of people using hoseclamps with long bolts, and then they are adjustable

so what do I need to do this?

i would say scrollback and read the text between the pictures

I give up.......
just would like to know what to get and where?
Did you have to do wiring mod?

inside the originallightunit

purple is high beam
brown is low
black is ground
yellow is sidelight/parkinglights ( the little ones above the low and high)

you need to buy light units that have Ø 10cm or 10.5cm not any bigger that have H4 and cables attached, prices variating between 70 and 129,- euro's the one i used are nighthawks and are for Harley and Triumph choppers came with everything attached cables and plug

thanks

is this close?
http://www.kedo.com/base_com/60335.html

http://japan.webike.net/products/2505370.html

http://www.optitune.nl/headlight-twin-90mm-chrome-p-11349.html

I found KITS but not sure if they are needed?
http://www.xtremehids.com/product_info.php?cPath=56_85&products_id=1055

do you have a link for where you bought yours?

i bought them at a local motor dealer but they are the same as optitune.nl i've seen those also are a littlebit cheaper but something doesn't look right with the company registered in Utrecht a bank account in Almere and there was some things else but i don't remeber right now

and the top 2 links are the same also

you don't need Xenon /H.I.D. those are getting to hot in there and the Plastic will melt

did you get dual (high/low) H4 ?

or is it two low beam h4's and two high beam h4's? Am confused..


http://www.sharphid.com/hidmc.htm

officialy i can use on a motorbike 1 high and 2 low beams

i've put in 2 h4 high/low beam there are set that have 1 H4 on the left and one H7 on the right then you have only 1 high beam and 2 low


that depents on the regulations of your goverment

Does anyone have the part number for the Hybrid mirrored lense? How can we get it in the US? Also the silver piece above that headlights that is color-match on our scoots.

i don't think they are sold in the US but in Europe all new models 2010 model got them now

but there is an other option when you open the light unit you can paint it with a chrome paint its cheaper then buying a new one

the chrome unit is 147,- euro's
a black one 107 euro's


This one is also painted with a sprycan




The pic above of the blue mp3 is one out of a Hybride

here is a pic off my newly recived H.I.D. /Xenon kit bought at vvme.com $100.- 4 H8 bulbs and 4 slim ballast's had to pay 25.- euro import tax overhere

the less brighter one is a Xenon look 55watt to brighter one is a 35 Watts H.I.D. / Xenon 4300K