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Tue, 02 Feb 2010 17:37:38 +0000

Veni, Vidi, Posti
2007 Vespa LX 190, 2011 LXV150ie
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Veni, Vidi, Posti
2007 Vespa LX 190, 2011 LXV150ie
Joined: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 02:17:14 +0000
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Location: Annapolis, MD, USA
Tue, 02 Feb 2010 17:37:38 +0000 quote
Part 2 -Removing the Engine

Once you've got the bike stabilized on your work surface (tie-downs are a good idea), the first order of business is to get any trim and plastic out of the way. Remove the "pet carrier", any rear cowl protectors, and the plastic cowl extensions - which are held in place by two screws in the slots at the front end and plastic tabs at the rear. Be careful pulling them from the front end after the screws are removed, as there are studs in the middle that friction-fit into rubber bushings. If you pull too quickly without slowly working the studs free, the plastic can flex enough to break.

On the left side, you also need to remove the plastic piece that covers the transmission vent pipe under the rear end of the floorboard. Remove the screw I the passenger footrest and pull it out thusly:



Next, remove the exhaust system. First, loosen both Allen-head machine screws that secure the muffler mounting brackets and remove the lower one:



Then, carefully remove the two copper-plated shoulder nuts that secure the exhaust pipe flange to the exhaust port. This will require some creativity with either wobble-end socket extensions or universal joints as the exhaust pipe and swing arm are very much in the way. I use a ¼"-drive ratchet with a 6" wobble extension and a 10 mm socket. Unless you've had them off recently, saturating them with some penetrating oil and letting it soak in for a while would probably be a good idea, as you definitely don't want to break those studs off. They are 7mm studs and are virtually unobtainable. Be very careful not to lose the nuts, too, as they are nearly as hard to find. This pic shows the wrench access problem:



In case you don't recognize the tube in the upper right of the photo above the ratchet, that is the mounting bracket for my Original Vespa cowl protectors.

Once you have the flange nuts removed, support the muffler and remove the upper Allen-head machine screw from the mounting bracket, and maneuver the exhaust system from the bike.

With the exhaust system out of the way, it is easy to drain the oil:



While you still have the rear brake connected, loosen the rear axle nut. Now you can start disconnecting all the things that connect the engine/transmission to the chassis, like the brake cable:




Cut the cable tie that holds the transmission cooling duct on and remove it:



Remove the spring that supports the back end of the swing-arm, just forward of the oil sump:



Disconnect the throttle cable by unscrewing the bracket and slipping the end slug out:



Label the various hoses and disconnect them from the carburetor and intake manifold:




Then disconnect all the wiring harness connectors to the engine, the connections to the starter motor, and the spark plug cap.

I removed the rear wheel before pulling the engine out, but there is no need to do so if you are just installing the cylinder kit.

Next, support the engine with something to keep it from dropping and remove the hinge bolt from the swing arm bracket:



Disconnect the bottom end of the rear shock from its mounting bracket:



The engine should now be loose from the chassis. As you can see from the next couple of pics, the rear shock is in the way of sliding it out the back unless you jack the rear end of the scooter up really high... even higher if the rear wheel is still on:




Whoops!... forgot to disconnect the vacuum line to the SAS valve!:



OK, the lump is now free to be pulled out and cleaned. Be sure to plug all the hose openings and wrap all the electrical connectors with tape before doing so. Here is the lump soaked down with de-greaser and waiting to be rinsed off with the garden hose:



After it dried, I humped it down into my shop and put it on a clean work surface for disassembly. I used a Black & Decker Workmate I had lying around as a dedicated bench. Watch your back; I'd guess the engine transmission assembly weighs somewhere around 70 lbs.

Coming up next in Part 3, installing the Malossi cylinder kit.
Wed, 03 Feb 2010 01:53:21 +0000

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Wed, 03 Feb 2010 01:53:21 +0000 quote
Great job!! With that it looks like any one can do this project. I still can't wait to see chapter 3 and 4. Keep up the great work and thanks for sharing your experience with the group.
Wed, 03 Feb 2010 02:38:14 +0000

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'06 Vespa LX150, '07 Suzuki Burgman 400, '05 Honda Metropolitan
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Wed, 03 Feb 2010 02:38:14 +0000 quote
Nice tutorial and photos. This was one project I did that I didn't do a photo documentation on, so it is nice to have yours. One option I'd offer: Instead of removing all the cables and hoses from the carburettor, I simply removed the carb and intake hose, and left it hanging in the chassis. You must remember to plug the opening so something doesn't fall in.

Here's a series of photos of the engine reassembled and ready to put back in, for reference.

Thanks!
Steve
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Wed, 13 Oct 2010 06:46:31 +0000

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Wed, 13 Oct 2010 06:46:31 +0000 quote
Re: Vespa LX Major Mods: Part 2 - Removing the Engine
Silver Streak wrote:
Part 2 -Removing the Engine

Then, carefully remove the two copper-plated shoulder nuts that secure the Exhaust Pipe Kit flange to the exhaust port. This will require some creativity with either wobble-end socket extensions or universal joints as the exhaust pipe and swing arm are very much in the way. I use a ¼"-drive ratchet with a 6" wobble extension and a 10 mm socket. Unless you've had them off recently, saturating them with some penetrating oil and letting it soak in for a while would probably be a good idea, as you definitely don't want to break those studs off. They are 7mm studs and are virtually unobtainable. Be very careful not to lose the nuts, too, as they are nearly as hard to find. This pic shows the wrench access problem:

I was lost during the removal of my cooper-plated shoulder. Thanks for you post i followed it and get the result that I needed. Thank you so much!

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Thu, 14 Oct 2010 00:39:27 +0000

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LX150 Darling Plum; GTS 250 Dragon Red; Honda Big Ruckus Demented Bastard
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Molto Verboso
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Thu, 14 Oct 2010 00:39:27 +0000 quote
Great write up!! looking forward to the next step....
OP
Thu, 14 Oct 2010 02:17:48 +0000

Veni, Vidi, Posti
2007 Vespa LX 190, 2011 LXV150ie
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Veni, Vidi, Posti
2007 Vespa LX 190, 2011 LXV150ie
Joined: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 02:17:14 +0000
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Thu, 14 Oct 2010 02:17:48 +0000 quote
Copper Dolphin wrote:
Great write up!! looking forward to the next step....
Umm... here ya go:
http://www.modernvespa.com/forum/topic60475?highlight=vespa++major+mods

This is somewhat of a necro-post. I posted this series last winter.
Fri, 15 Oct 2010 19:42:46 +0000

Molto Verboso
LX150 Darling Plum; GTS 250 Dragon Red; Honda Big Ruckus Demented Bastard
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Molto Verboso
LX150 Darling Plum; GTS 250 Dragon Red; Honda Big Ruckus Demented Bastard
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Fri, 15 Oct 2010 19:42:46 +0000 quote
Sorry I did not pay attention to the original date, I was looking through projects and I guess I saw the title and that it was new, or changed since last saw it so assumed it was a new post.
Great project.. and I am guessing by now we know it has done well? No problems... Thanks for sharing... all the same....
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Fri, 15 Oct 2010 20:27:51 +0000

Veni, Vidi, Posti
2007 Vespa LX 190, 2011 LXV150ie
Joined: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 02:17:14 +0000
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Veni, Vidi, Posti
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Joined: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 02:17:14 +0000
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Location: Annapolis, MD, USA
Fri, 15 Oct 2010 20:27:51 +0000 quote
8,000 miles on the 190 and upgear kits so far with zero problems.
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