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Yesterday I was caught in the raging storms/tornado warnings around here. So, an extra hour or more finding my way home because of closed roads due to water and other associated storm problems.

After I came out the other side of one of the deeper spots I had to ride through, the CVT slipped almost completely a few times for several seconds each, soon getting it's grip, and I continued home, wet and happy to some tea and whiskey.

I know the slippage was due to the water splashing up all around me, but I'm curious as to what was actually slipping...the belt? The clutch? Both?

And, should I peek into the CVT after something like this happens, or just dry off and let it go?

In an unrelated questions: My scoot lives outside. The front wheel bolts were a little tough getting off the last time I had to remove the wheel. I don't want to break them, but the idea of Anti-Seize on wheel bolts seems wrong. Should I apply it or just loosen and tighten them from time to time to keep them free?

Thanks for the help.

PS: I don't want to turn this into a riding safety admonision. I ride in the rain a lot, and I know the drill. I actually got off the road and ducked into a Best Buy to shop around and wait out the worst parts of the storm for safety reasons. I did most of my riding in the still wet and rainy aftermath. Thenk yew.
PPS: I didn't buy anything.
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My guess would be that it was the belt slipping. Seems like the weakest link.

If it were me, I probably wouldn't bother opening up the transmission case. But then, if one of my bikes caught fire by the side of the road, I would just shrug and move on to the next one.
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Definitely put anti-seize on your wheel bolts. My local dealers all do. I once had a bolt break and it was a real pain to get out. Agree with Jess on the belt slipping. Just leave well alone, it was only doing it because it was wet.
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The slipping could have been water on the clutch shoes, and yes, put some copper slip or something on your wheel bolts.
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Yes to the anti-seize - and don't over-tighten them just because you've used anti-seize!

I've had a momentary slipping belt before from splashing through long puddles. Nothing to worry about.
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Anytime I take a bolt off I put Never-Seize on it before I put it back on unless it's vibrated loose and then I use blue Loctite.
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I think your slippage question has been sufficiently answered - it's the belt.

like you, I'm always cautious to put anti-sieze on bolts that need to stay put, but I don;t recall actually losing a bolt because of the anti-seize. It just basically helps the bolt to not get completely stuck to the nut... Blue or Red Loctite (depening on the application) really works well too.
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All the help is appreciated. Thanks.

Anti-Seize going on the bolts tomorrow. I'd do it today except I have to get off to work...I have a another storm to outrun. Razz emoticon
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go easy on the big puddles - the air-filter intake is pointed down at the ground - very easy to flood the air-filter
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