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gutted you cousins are out.
Altidore played for my team Hull City(Tigers)in the premier league last season. bring on the Germans today,bout time we showed some bulldog spirit. |
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We're gonna score one more than you...
Come on boys!!!!!
Stuart Pearce screams at crowd after scoring penalty for England against Spain during Euro ' 96. Legend.
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The US certainly had their chances but, save for Donovan's penalty kick, none went in. The Ghanain goalie and defense were outstanding. For as young as Ghana are they played very maturely. Their passing was crisp and precise.
I'm for England now. Still a (non-flag burning ) Scouser by blood. |
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Well, what a shellacking...
Again, this world cup has shown how truly awful the referees are. But as everyone has said, that 'goal' made 1966 Even Stevens.. Thing is, you battle back from something like that. The US did it twice. England's defense just collapsed. Ultimately is this a surprise? England came in 2nd in group play, behind the US... Watching this game, and the Ghana game also really showed that as much fight as the US had in them they do not have any world class strikers. Ghana seized every chance they got and got 2 great goals. Germany seized their chances and got 4 great goals. No doubt, no hesitation. The US needs players that can finish. As for Rooney, man what a disappointment. He had 4 games in which he could have showed something. Not including the previous world cup in 2006 where he also choked. All hype, no product. Guess he should just stick to provincial play. Next up, Mexico vs Argentina! Should be entertaining.. |
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Watching Mexico vs Argentina..
Another unbelievably bad call by the linesman, allowing the Argie player who was waay offside to score... This is weak. |
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Desmolicious wrote: Watching Mexico vs Argentina.. Another unbelievably bad call by the linesman, allowing the Argie player who was waay offside to score... This is weak. Seriously, I wonder if they thought the keeper touched it, because other than that it was really friggin' obvious. (Though not as obvious as the England goal, which was likely the most ridiculous WC ref mistake in recent memory.) |
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Desmolicious wrote: Watching Mexico vs Argentina.. Another unbelievably bad call by the linesman, allowing the Argie player who was waay offside to score... This is weak. The worst part is that in this case, if the ref and its assistant were to use their brains, you don't need a video replay to realize that it was offside. Tevez went past the goalie, as the goalie blocks the ball away from the goal, Messi passes it back to Tevez, and the defenders from Mexico haven't got to Tevez yet. Offside, period. The replay only shows the yard+ of offside, and it also shows that the assistant referee can see the same yard+ of offside. The local football associations must enforce video replay, and tell FIFA either join in, or fk it. |
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IrishTim wrote: The US certainly had their chances but, save for Donovan's penalty kick, none went in. The Ghanain goalie and defense were outstanding. For as young as Ghana are they played very maturely. Their passing was crisp and precise. I'm for England now. Still a (non-flag burning ) Scouser by blood. I'm pulling for Slovkia now. Slovak by marriage. (But I already liked Pieorgies!) ⚠️ Last edited by IrishTim on UTC; edited 1 time
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Okay, game over
Argentina 3 Mexico 1 Argentina's 3rd goal was a scorching beauty. Hot damn. Mexico's goal was nice but not on the same level. But.. what it shows again (I know I'm beating a dead horse here) is that the US has no strikers at that level. None. For the US to get better they need to have that kind of talent. Segueing... (sp?) I was thinking about Rooney's performance over the last 2 world cups. And came to the conclusion that he is the equivalent of a college ball player in the US. May be a star at college level but on the international level just does not have what it takes. How else could he suck so bad in every frickin' game? |
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Desmolicious wrote: Okay, game over Argentina 3 Mexico 1 Argentina's 3rd goal was a scorching beauty. Hot damn. Mexico's goal was nice but not on the same level. But.. what it shows again (I know I'm beating a dead horse here) is that the US has no strikers at that level. None. For the US to get better they need to have that kind of talent. It will take a considerable cultural change in how Americans approach the game of soccer before we will ever be in a position to realistically achieve the goal of being World Cup champions. I would love to see it in my lifetime. |
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You've got some points, but I'll give you a name: Giuseppe Rossi. He's an american, a top striker in La Liga (Villareal), but chose to play for Italy, the country of his parents. Unfortunately for him, Lippi didn't pick him for the WC, but it also brings an other issue: When we get these players of the high caliber, they are choosing to play for their parents' country rather than the USA (There is one in the Mexican team, another one that plays for one of the Balkan countries, there is one who played for Germany and is now back at the US). Perhaps it has to do with the "lower" reputation our team has versus these other countries, or at least the lack of an international coach. But we need to address this problem.
Also there is the issue of money. The salaries available for an average pro player in baseball, basketball, or even hockey, is far higher than an MLS player. And if you're good here in the US and want to take your game to Europe, you're competing against hundreds of players from Latin America, Africa, and Asia. Not an easy task. |
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Azzurri wrote: Desmolicious wrote: Okay, game over Argentina 3 Mexico 1 Argentina's 3rd goal was a scorching beauty. Hot damn. Mexico's goal was nice but not on the same level. But.. what it shows again (I know I'm beating a dead horse here) is that the US has no strikers at that level. None. For the US to get better they need to have that kind of talent. It will take a considerable cultural change in how Americans approach the game of soccer before we will ever be in a position to realistically achieve the goal of being World Cup champions. I would love to see it in my lifetime. |
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Torino wrote: That might require quitting school at a very young age and dedicating your life to the sport. Not that every great player does this, but it is something that is done in many more poverty stricken areas. My experience in the past 10+yrs of coaching/refereeing club soccer in Southern California shows that: 1) the nascent talent from the latino sector goes to Mexico to continue in their academies, 2) the good talent from the non-latino groups aims at getting a scholarship on college, and 3) the rest of the good athlete talent switches to a more "rewarding" monetary sport (ie baseball or football). Given that the "great" players currently have been products of soccer academies since their puberty years (Messi, Ronaldo, Rooney, Boateng, Drogba, etc) I can't see our bulk of college-produced players having a chance against these guys. |
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In other news, biggest jackass move of the day was from the Dutch goalkeeper. Holland is up 2-0 with the final seconds literally coming to a close. Slovakia has a break through, the Slovak player manages to dribble past the Dutch goalkeeper. Worst case scenario? Dood scores and game is over 2-1, Holland advances.
Butt nooooo. The goalkeeper brings down the Slovak player! Penalty awarded with yellow card! So the Slovakians score anyway, time runs out, as it would have anyway. Butt now the keeper has a yellow card which means if he gets another one in the next game (it could happen in an instance just like this) if they win he would have to sit out the semi final game. Dumbass. |
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Desmolicious wrote: But.. what it shows again (I know I'm beating a dead horse here) is that the US has no strikers at that level. None. For the US to get better they need to have that kind of talent. Yes, the US needs real strikers who can score, but both of those goals we gave up were preventable if the defensive players had performed better. I was very disappointed. |
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xantufrog wrote: Desmolicious wrote: But.. what it shows again (I know I'm beating a dead horse here) is that the US has no strikers at that level. None. For the US to get better they need to have that kind of talent. Yes, the US needs real strikers who can score, but both of those goals we gave up were preventable if the defensive players had performed better. I was very disappointed. |
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