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Today I had a chance to see and hear the PM68, I meet up with Aaron at the local Starbuck/Panera. So we had a chance to compair our pipes.

Aarons Red Vespa and the PM68, My Vespa Black has the LV 4road both have a nice tone and not to loud

Please wait for pictures
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I'like the looks of the PM tunning PM68 its a hot item

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Nice! The PM looks pretty rad, I've never seen it before. I'm still LV Army all the way but that pipe is pretty cool 8)
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Thanks for the pics and the video.
The sounds seems to be similar at iddle.

Do you confirm that both pipes don't need ECU remapping ?
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I like the looks of the PM, I think the chrome looks better than the matte/dull finish of the LV (plus it's got those cool retro springs!). I've never heard a PM but I do like the sound of my LV.


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Youthcore wrote:
Nice! The PM looks pretty rad, I've never seen it before. I'm still LV Army all the way but that pipe is pretty cool 8)
+1

I bet the LV would like nice in that chrome finish...

The PM 68 sits lower - not better or worse, just different. Does it ever scrape?

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I have a LV pipe but I have to admit that the PM pipe sits nicely on the GTS when it is on the centre stand. I do like how the PM looks.
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That a beautiful pipe for a sporty red Vespa!
(Not the look I'm going for, but it's really easy to appreciate )

I'm curious that it looks like there are some springs on the mount...
Is that what's going on?
And do you think one of the mounts is superior?
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PM68 Exhaust
Will that beautiful system fit in a 2005 GT200L?
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Giaccomo wrote:
Thanks for the pics and the video.
The sounds seems to be similar at iddle.



Do you confirm that both pipes don't need ECU remapping ?
The ECU will remap it self over time, just disconnect the battery for half hour or so. and yes they sound the same it has a db killer installed I guess the old PM was a bit more loud.
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TurtleGT wrote:
That a beautiful pipe for a sporty red Vespa!
(Not the look I'm going for, but it's really easy to appreciate )

I'm curious that it looks like there are some springs on the mount...
Is that what's going on?
And do you think one of the mounts is superior?
the spings give it a point to releave stress and give some flex,

I like the PM mount better but I'm sure they are both good products
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Re: PM68 Exhaust
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Will that beautiful system fit in a 2005 GT200L?
They have one for your scooter so yes
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Aaron is out on a 150 mile ride today ( Ortega HWY ) I hope he gives a full report of PM68, I will say when I was ridinging behind him it make a nice sound. today I'm sure he'll have a chance to WOOT it. Popcorn emoticon
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So I went on a ride with a Aprillia sport bike and a Honda cruiser. Wish I had a picture. We started in HB (Huntington Beach) at the donut shop car gathering and rode down PCH (Pacific Coast Hwy) to Ruby's in Laguna Beach for breakfast. We didn't get to Ortega Hwy but fun nonetheless. Maybe 60 miles roundtrip.

PM worked fine. No backfires, spitfires, or other issues. I dig the sound during acceleration. I like the looks too. I don't notice much in terms of speed, but that wasn't my intention anyway.

I installed it myself, inspired by Jesse. The pictures on the instructions were hard to see and follow but I figured it out. As some have mentioned I ended up with a copper seal/gasket/washer looking thing that was part of the kit, but not mentioned in the instructions. It took me a few hours trying to dry fit it, without silicone high temp gasket, and after running to the auto parts store to buy the silicone. The hardest part was getting the nuts on to attach the thing. Hard to reach in and harder to ratchet. I let the silicone sit for almost 24 hours as per the silicone packaging instructions. That was it. I haven't disconnected the battery, however I did lose power at the end of the ride and had to get it jumped. I think that may have reset the computer thingy, whatever it may or may not do. I didn't feel a difference.

That was my story. I picked up a trickle charger on the way home too!
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After having both myself I have found the PM Tuning 68 superior to the LV. Why? Looks, design and sound. Not to mention the LV cracked my stock header tube.

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I like both products, but I may get me a PM68 soon, or some Bub7 who knows
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Here's an action shot to show how the PM sits "in use" (thanks to Pete Gailey for snapping that one), it seems quite close to the bodywork but I've never noticed it hit even with my bitch on the back.

2 questions for Boraxman: How did you get the bracket in silver? I'm still not sure about the gold anodised... Also, how long did the little rubber bits on the springs last for? Mine are cracking up already!
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Oh yeh, back to the point of the topic: The PM and LV are both worthy audio upgrades.

But the PM is shiny.
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+1 on the silver bracket question -- have been toying with painting my gold one -- just haven't found a paint that I think will do the job attractively yet....
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2 questions for Boraxman: How did you get the bracket in silver? I'm still not sure about the gold anodised... Also, how long did the little rubber bits on the springs last for? Mine are cracking up already!
First I removed the anodize with oven cleaner (theres tips on the net how to) to see how the raw aluminum would look, I did not like it so I simply spray painted it and its held up great. I dont remember what paint I used but I dont think it was anything special.

I bought my pipe used here on the for sale section a couple of years ago and the rubber was already missing from the springs.
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