Put on the PM68 last night. Really love it. I'll post pics later but everyone already knows what it looks like and sounds like (I think). It does have more of a growl to it than the LV 4road does. Way lighter than the LV. I have my shocks set at the stiffest level knowing it may hit the crash bars and sure enough, already have a dent on top of the pipe. Oh well. Other than that, It's awesome!