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Liane-

If you get tired of Italian food, which we did after a couple of weeks, there's a great Chinese restaurant in Lavagna (near Cinque Terre) on the Via 24 Aprile, directly across from the Piazza Milano. Or, if the urge hits you in Pontedera, there's a pretty good one adjacent to the Hotel La Pace in the heart of the city.

For really great eats in Pontedera, go to the La Vecchia Banana. We had our welcome dinner there for the Bella Italia Rally.

Our favorite Chinese Restaurant in Italy is in Rome, not far from the Spanish Steps, but can only find it by walking the neighborhood and recognizing landmarks.



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Liane-

If you get tired of Italian food, which we did after a couple of weeks, there's a great Chinese restaurant in Lavagna (near Cinque Terre)
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How can you get tired of Italian food? I will be there for the month of Oct and try. I never have before. Then maybe I will hop over to your island and see if I can get tired of ouzo.

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Aviator47 wrote:
Liane-

If you get tired of Italian food, which we did after a couple of weeks, there's a great Chinese restaurant in Lavagna (near Cinque Terre)
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How can you get tired of Italian food? I will be there for the month of Oct and try. I never have before. Then maybe I will hop over to your island and see if I can get tired of ouzo.

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I agree - how could you possibly get tired of italian food!?!?!?!? There are over 1 million italian recipes, and even after having lived in Italy for well over three years I still havent got tired...

(Having been living in London for less than a week however has made me tired of english food Razz emoticon )
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I have to warn you, Italy is notorious for strikes,
They get Banks, Transit buses, Garbage collection and Railway strikes in an endless cycle.

Not true. There are occasional strikes of public transportation, I'd say for half a day every two days, but since most people doesnt use public transportation that is not as drastic as it seems.
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Also getting a telephone installed can mean being on a waiting list for quite some time.
Actually even that is quite undramatic these days, with several companies competing on the market. A mobile phone contract is done in 10 minutes, pay as you go or monthly.
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We lived in a house that was only recently restored, It had been bombed
out during WWII and previously to our renting it it had no floors,
Concrete floors were installed just months before we arrived...

Are you sure you still want to buy a "Ruin"

A ruin is meant to be renovated, and I stayed in a fantastic ex-ruin in Narni once, original walls from the 16-17th century and then carefully renovated, with an attic built on a glass floor where you slept - fantastic
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I am very late to the party here, but I have been to Northern Italy several times and my son lived there for a couple of years.

First tip: EVERY THING SHUTS DOWN FOR LUNCH!!!! If you are not in a tourist center or on their version of a freeway, 1100-1400 is shut down.

More so between 13 and 16.
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Second tip: Lane markings are optional - Italians drift as they drive.
Correct. I'd describe it as "organic traffic" Razz emoticon
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Milan: Wonderful city. Duomo is worth the trip. St Bartholomew's church has a grotto of human bones (couple of blocks from the Duomo). The fort and museum about a mile from the Duomo is worth the time. Metro is great and user friendly. Hotels can be pricey. Ask about options on breakfast (sometimes it's a great deal, usually it is very expensive for very little).

Pisa: The leaning tower made me laugh. A monument to mediocrity! The baptistery leans the other way, and the church sinks in the middle. It's like you got caught in a Dali painting in real life.

Florence: Daughter studied art there for a semester. Museums are great. The David made my Jaw drop. The hands are slightly out of proportion, but the statue has captured the instant of time and tension between battle and realized victory. Simply amazing!

Genoa: It's a port city, and not much to recommend it, but I love it there. We went a couple of times. Enjoyed walking around the city. There is a great aquarium there with some type of Rays that you can pet.
Yes, avoid Genua - nothing to see there.
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Cinque terra(sp): My wife loved it, I've never been. She did complain some about how steep the hills were in the villages. The drive is supposed to be incredible.

Como: It's a lake. Sorry, this one did nothing for me, although it puts you right on the Swiss border - GO FOR IT!!! Find a mountain pass or two and ride them, you will never see mountains the same way again!

Venice: Tourist trap at this point, but you have to go anyway. It would be like driving through S. Dakota and not stopping at Wall Drug for chrissakes! The engineering is fascinating, and the buildings are interesting architecturally.
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Both coasts (East and West) are beautiful drives. Roads are narrow, but for the most part decent. You will go through the little towns, but that adds to the charm of the trip.
I'd recommend central and southern Italy instead. The north is less "genuine Italy", and the weather is better (=warmer) the more south you get.

Umbria is fantastic for example, with Narni and Todi as two forgotten medieval mountain cities, both with fantastic food, and then you have Perugia, Assissi and Orvieto, built on Etruscan caves and ruins and with the fantastic Pozzo di S. Patrizio which practically is a dwell, 15m deep, which you can enter into since it has a spiralling path leading down to its bottom, once travelled by mules allowing access to the spring at the bottom, and a second on leading up, in that way avoiding "traffic chaos".

Then in the south you have the fantastic sea and food, and a rural more ancient way of life.
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In Rome do not miss:

http://www.giolitti.it/english/home.html

The best Gelatto in the world!
I respectfully disagree. The well known and well established Giolitti scores a well deserved third place in my book. Having lived in Italy for 14 years, 8 of which in Rome, I rank as absolute first-place winner the "Gelateria Della Palma" in Rome (Via della Maddalena, 27, at the corner with via delle Coppelle -- just a couple of blocks north of the Pantheon). Second place (close, almost tied with "Della Palma," but not quite as perfectly heavenly) is the "Gelateria Tivoli" in Florence, near Piazza Santa Croce. Giolitti in Rome earns its worthy third place. In fact, since "Giolitti" is within walking distance of "Della Palma," you might want to buy a cone in both gelaterie on the same afternoon, for a personal side-by-side objective comparison!

Salima
Actually, ice cream, as so much other food, isn't preferably enjoyed in Rome. Romans are neither very skilled skilled (on an italian level) nor do they use the best ingredients while cooking, especially not in restaurants where the need of high earnings drive them to use cheaper products and more oil to cook. Food is best enjoyed in the country side where ingredients more often than not are prepared locally and of the best quality, unlike anything you can find in the big shopping centres in Rome, and the food prepared as if it was (which it is) the most important thing on earth.

My favorite gelateria so far experienced in Italy finds itself in Terni, on via tacito, just close to Piazza Tacito. The walls are draped by all the prices they have won, and the ice cream is truly fantastic!
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Can really recomend Perugia in the Umbria region, a lovely quaint 13th or 15th (cant remember off hand) century walled town plus not to far for a day trip to Assissi
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I agree - how could you possibly get tired of italian food!?!?!?!? There are over 1 million italian recipes, and even after having lived in Italy for well over three years I still havent got tired...
Eating it 7 days a week for 18 years growing up, my palette developed a strong desire for variety, which remains to this day. We now cook from a variety of traditions. The desire for Chinese is heightened by the lack of same on our island, so our trips to Italy allow a chance to indulge.
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Disclaimer: I was there only two weeks. I didn't ride, the chorale I was photographing had a rigid tour bus schedule, and only part of the time were we in Northern Italy. And my experience is five years old. On the plus side I have two complete galleries of photos for you to see (my wife shot the other one, and I taught her all I know ).

Actually, I didn't even want a scooter until after this trip. My wife bought a European Smart Car when we got back, which 1000 became available about 10 months after our trip, through a limited importation through Canada. It's still our main car.

As you go north the scoots get more $$ and modern, more Asian too. If you go as far south as Naples (Napoli) the streets were littered with garbage, but there were folks riding older Vespas around...one guy missing a cowl on a primered PX or Rally did a block long wheelie for our tourbus.

To the point: Fav cities were Venice, Venice, and Venice. But no Scoots. You need to walk into the interior and get lost on the side streets. Yes they have streets, next to the canals. Lose the tourists. What people don't know is that when you get lost, since it's so small, you eventually come out somewhere. It has it's own light to the sky. I hope it is not covered in water in 20 years. It would be a great loss.

After this I recommend Siena. Our tour people tried carefully to get us to here especially, they were proud of this sleepy little town. Siena and Florence were apparently rivals end of the middle ages...then the Black Death came along and wiped out Siena more than Florence, so the story goes that I was told.

Florence is very crowded, but you have to see the art there. Our local Italian tour people told us not to drink out of the fountains (only) in Florence...I don't know why.

I did a lot of walking in traffic in Rome, and it's hectic. There's a lot of eye-contact driving rules, or something else that dictates who goes first.

Lastly, time of day. Everything does shut down in the middle of day. Everyone eats late and spends a long time at dinner. You might be eating from 20:00 to 22:00. Enjoy it, the food is one of the things Italy is most known for.
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Agree that Siena is beautiful. We met up with the Vespa Club of Siena while there.

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http://www.vespaclubsiena.it/?page_id=129&album=4&gallery=33

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There is a great little gelateria on Via Della Paneterria in Rome. All natural flavors, had one or two every night while in Rome. Also, around the corner is a great place to eat, Ristorante Tritone.

Florence was great as well, and seems to be a better city to ride a scooter than Rome. Great museums and food

Can't wait to go back.

Greg

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