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Bill's riding a 150cc California Scooter Company Classic in the CBR this year, a Chinese copy of the old Mustang. It looks uncomfortable as Hell, but he just rode it on the 650 mile Lake Erie Loop this summer. We'll be watching how he does.
Wait, in scooter cannonball? I don't think it meets any of the qualifications. It's very clearly a motorcycle. The Mustang was only referred to as a "scooter" in the parlance that most harley riders used to call their bikes "scooters" in the middle half of the 20th century.
rule 2.1.1.2 it qualifies.
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Bill's riding a 150cc California Scooter Company Classic in the CBR this year, a Chinese copy of the old Mustang. It looks uncomfortable as Hell, but he just rode it on the 650 mile Lake Erie Loop this summer. We'll be watching how he does.
Wait, in scooter cannonball? I don't think it meets any of the qualifications. It's very clearly a motorcycle. The Mustang was only referred to as a "scooter" in the parlance that most harley riders used to call their bikes "scooters" in the middle half of the 20th century.
rule 2.1.1.2 it qualifies.
So it does. I suppose it also qualifies a monkey bike. Probably not exactly the spirit of the rule, but... it still seems to qualify.

You miss the point with the 50cc comment, btw. You do every time this comes up. It doesn't need to be rehashed, but again, absolutely nothing prevents people from making their own ride, right?

Here's a slightly different way to approach this, and see how it's vexing: every time this comes up, the people who actually participate in the event say they dont' think maxi-scoots have a real place in the event itself, and say they don't want to have them there. Yet you want to change the rules so you can join, instead of making your own ride for maxiscoots. Why do you want to ride for 10 days every day hanging around with people who don't think you should be on the ride? Wouldn't it just be better to make your own, similar ride with different rules?

Why do you want to spend lots of time, money, and effort, to force yourself around a ride where the actual participants are saying they don't believe you belong?

I don't really get that.

absolutely nothing prevents you from this. In fact, people who didn't agree with the general sentiments of the rules, etc, have made their own events that have been reasonably successful: e.g., CORSA IFP. They've enjoyed those events, and continue to put them on. And that's awesome.

you say you have limited funds; why put them to use that way instead of making something that's yours, that does things the way you want to?
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2. Forget the classes, route, hotels... and just make it a coast to coast in 50hr event. San Diego to Jacksonville FL.
I've had my eye on this for years. Now you've got my attention.
Me too. Dunno if I've got the intestinal fortitude to actually do it, but I'm very interested.
One of these days when I decide I can get my MP3 500 running well. Which will be never. But that's the bike I'd choose.
you want to slam me for wanting to ride a 500 and here you are saying its a bike that you would choose. I don't get it. on 1 hand you say your against the larger scoots then on this hand you would choose one to ride.

What is so wrong with 400 or 500 wanting to ride and compete against each other in there OWN CLASS. not against the smaller bore machines which are competing against each other in their respective classes.

Under the current format you have different scoots in different classes why?
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Re: Scooter Cannonball 2010
Sorry for even saying anything about 2012!

For now the focus should be on those planning and preparing for 2010. Looks like a great trip.
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Well at one month till departure the reality of this incredible journey is starting to kick in! I will extend this trip from the end to South Carolina to New Orleans, Texas then Salt Lake City where I will start this voyage.

I will post daily reports and photos on my bog
http://cannonball08.blogspot.com/

I hope'n the other Cannonballers will have a blog where I will link to them from this blog.

Last Cannonball saw thrills, spills, breakdowns and a lot of exhausted smiles!

This years ride from Vancouver, BC to Portland, Maine will surely have it's share of stories....
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Sorry for even saying anything about 2012!

For now the focus should be on those planning and preparing for 2010. Looks like a great trip.
Pistol Pete wrote:
Well at one month till departure the reality of this incredible journey is starting to kick in! I will extend this trip from the end to South Carolina to New Orleans, Texas then Salt Lake City where I will start this voyage.

I will post daily reports and photos on my bog
http://cannonball08.blogspot.com/

I hope'n the other Cannonballers will have a blog where I will link to them from this blog.

Last Cannonball saw thrills, spills, breakdowns and a lot of exhausted smiles!

This years ride from Vancouver, BC to Portland, Maine will surely have it's share of stories....
noted I will refrain from futher 2012 items. Enjoy the ride next month.
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2. Forget the classes, route, hotels... and just make it a coast to coast in 50hr event. San Diego to Jacksonville FL.
I've had my eye on this for years. Now you've got my attention.
Me too. Dunno if I've got the intestinal fortitude to actually do it, but I'm very interested.
One of these days when I decide I can get my MP3 500 running well. Which will be never. But that's the bike I'd choose.
you want to slam me for wanting to ride a 500 and here you are saying its a bike that you would choose. I don't get it. on 1 hand you say your against the larger scoots then on this hand you would choose one to ride.

What is so wrong with 400 or 500 wanting to ride and compete against each other in there OWN CLASS. not against the smaller bore machines which are competing against each other in their respective classes.

Under the current format you have different scoots in different classes why?
Not to belabor the point much but I think you're confused. An Iron Butt 50 hr coast to coast is not Cannonball. I'd be more than happy to do such a ride on my MP3 500 over my GT250 or Elite 250, P125X (which I think would be impossible).

I would never bring an MP3 500 on SCBR, nor would I even pretend to consider it. Just want to make that clear as it seems you're conflating the two in your response.
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I, being a guy, was impressed to hear that there will be FIVE female riders in this year's Scooter Cannonball.

I was chatting with two of the female riders this weekend. One of the conversations was that this will be a big personal challenge for herself. She will need to be very self sufficient during this ride. I guess this applies to all the riders on this trip. True, the riders have a support team out there in case they have a breakdown but the support team cannot make the ride for them.

I know today we are all expected to be self sufficient, especially men, but this has not always been the norm in America.

My best wishes go out to all of the riders. I am completely jealous of the opportunities this ride presents these people and hope that one day, I am able to make a similar journey in my life.
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could a few of you cannonballers keep some good records of costs and post for all here. transportation to and from , hotels ,food, beer, gas,that sort of thing. also track your gas mileage.
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could a few of you cannonballers keep some good records of costs and post for all here. transportation to and from , hotels ,food, beer, gas,that sort of thing. also track your gas mileage.
didin't these questions get answered when you asked the same question >>>Here?

http://www.scootercannonball.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1560


HUH?
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thanks I forgot about that.
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could a few of you cannonballers keep some good records of costs and post for all here. transportation to and from , hotels ,food, beer, gas,that sort of thing. also track your gas mileage.
Scooter prep/gear upgrades aside, here are my costs to date, rounded up or down to nearest dollar.

Airfare + Car Rental: $419
ForwardAir/Shipping Scooter: $686
Hotels: $1029 (14 nights, includes tax/fees)

Consistent w/ my 2008 expenses. $2,000 in "fixed" travel expenses, another $1,000 in food/gas/beer, another $1,000 was prob spent one way or another over the last 4-6 months in scooter/gear prep.
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My Scooter Cannonball fantasy is a four corners odyssey. Start somewhere near the geographic center of the USA, document hitting four corners in any order, first one back wins, 30 day max limit. No classes, two wheeled scooters only, 200cc or less.
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My Scooter Cannonball fantasy is a four corners odyssey. Start somewhere near the geographic center of the USA, document hitting four corners in any order, first one back wins, 30 day max limit. No classes, two wheeled scooters only, 200cc or less.
As long as we're talking fantasy I'd like a trust fund and to sign up for the ride above Razz emoticon
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My Scooter Cannonball fantasy is a four corners odyssey. Start somewhere near the geographic center of the USA, document hitting four corners in any order, first one back wins, 30 day max limit. No classes, two wheeled scooters only, 200cc or less.
As long as we're talking fantasy I'd like a trust fund and to sign up for the ride above Razz emoticon
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My Scooter Cannonball fantasy is a four corners odyssey. Start somewhere near the geographic center of the USA, document hitting four corners in any order, first one back wins, 30 day max limit. No classes, two wheeled scooters only, 200cc or less.
As long as we're talking fantasy I'd like a trust fund and to sign up for the ride above Razz emoticon
In!
and I can see the wheels turning already in your heads on the best route!
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so heres what I surmized from this

start and end point is at the geographical center of the lower 48 near Lebanon, KS

Corners are
Neah Bay , wash
Border field state park , south of Imperial beach , Ca
Fort Zachary state pake, FL
Madawaska, Maine
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so heres what I surmized from this

start and end point is at the geographical center of the lower 48 near Lebanon, KS

Corners are
Neah Bay , wash
Border field state park , south of Imperial beach , Ca
Fort Zachary state pake, FL
Madawaska, Maine
Driving directions to Lebanon, KS
9,964 mi - about 6 days 23 hours



Edited to include start and finish in Lebanon, KS
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I should really clarify scooters less than 186cc for my fantasy. Reason being to keep the challenge on mapping a route which requires staying off freeways due to practical speed limits of smaller cc'ed scooters.

Maybe one day...
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THERE YOU GO! Scooterboy? Old As Dirt? looks like you have hatched the seeds of a MP3-500 four corners rally!!

And Starr I will see you in Vancouver !! woot!
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THERE YOU GO! Scooterboy? Old As Dirt? looks like you have hatched the seeds of a MP3-500 four corners rally!!
3 wheels
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THERE YOU GO! Scooterboy? Old As Dirt? looks like you have hatched the seeds of a MP3-500 four corners rally!!

And Starr I will see you in Vancouver !! woot!
this is starreem fanatsy ride though and he put a limit on 186cc.
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THERE YOU GO! Scooterboy? Old As Dirt? looks like you have hatched the seeds of a MP3-500 four corners rally!!

And Starr I will see you in Vancouver !! woot!
this is starreem fanatsy ride though and he put a limit on 186cc.
Starr is a girl.

And the GT200 is 198cc.
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THERE YOU GO! Scooterboy? Old As Dirt? looks like you have hatched the seeds of a MP3-500 four corners rally!!

And Starr I will see you in Vancouver !! woot!
this is starreem fanatsy ride though and he put a limit on 186cc.
Starr is a girl.

And the GT200 is 198cc.
my appologies to starreem and she did clarify the 186 cc's max
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A motorcycle cannonball being run soon is being done entirely on pre-1916 bikes.
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Pope, Sears, Flying Merkel, Excelsior, Henderson, Indian, Triumph, and the Harley-Davidson's Silent Grey Fellows. These are but a few of the vintage, pre-1916 motorcycles that will be thumping their way across these great United States for the Motorcycle Cannonball endurance run in September 2010. Riders will virtually dip their tread in the salty waters of the East Coast's Atlantic Ocean as the officials wave the green flag, then come to rest some 3,320 miles later, at the shoreline of the Pacific Ocean's West Coast.
http://www.motorcyclecannonball.com/

I may have to go check out the grand finish in Santa Monica!
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Pope, Sears, Flying Merkel, Excelsior, Henderson, Indian, Triumph, and the Harley-Davidson's Silent Grey Fellows. These are but a few of the vintage, pre-1916 motorcycles that will be thumping their way across these great United States for the Motorcycle Cannonball endurance run in September 2010. Riders will virtually dip their tread in the salty waters of the East Coast's Atlantic Ocean as the officials wave the green flag, then come to rest some 3,320 miles later, at the shoreline of the Pacific Ocean's West Coast.
http://www.motorcyclecannonball.com/

I may have to go check out the grand finish in Santa Monica!
my money is on Dale Walksler to win out of the 60 or so entrants
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THERE YOU GO! Scooterboy? Old As Dirt? looks like you have hatched the seeds of a MP3-500 four corners rally!!

And Starr I will see you in Vancouver !! woot!
this is starreem fanatsy ride though and he put a limit on 186cc.
Starr is a girl.

And the GT200 is 198cc.
my appologies to starreem and she did clarify the 186 cc's max
That she did, slipped past me.

Well thankfully for you, your fantasy ride doesn't have to include Starr's limitations
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TheO.Z. wrote:
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THERE YOU GO! Scooterboy? Old As Dirt? looks like you have hatched the seeds of a MP3-500 four corners rally!!

And Starr I will see you in Vancouver !! woot!
this is starreem fanatsy ride though and he put a limit on 186cc.
Starr is a girl.

And the GT200 is 198cc.
my appologies to starreem and she did clarify the 186 cc's max
That she did, slipped past me.

Well thankfully for you, your fantasy ride doesn't have to include Starr's limitations
ha my fantasy ride doesn't involve riding to far or in an event of any sort but that maybe TMI Laughing emoticon
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start and end point is at the geographical center of the lower 48 near Lebanon, KS
Please oh please can it be anything but Kansas? Pretty please?

If I never set foot in Kansas again it will be too soon.
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Pope, Sears, Flying Merkel, Excelsior, Henderson, Indian, Triumph, and the Harley-Davidson's Silent Grey Fellows. These are but a few of the vintage, pre-1916 motorcycles that will be thumping their way across these great United States for the Motorcycle Cannonball endurance run in September 2010. Riders will virtually dip their tread in the salty waters of the East Coast's Atlantic Ocean as the officials wave the green flag, then come to rest some 3,320 miles later, at the shoreline of the Pacific Ocean's West Coast.
http://www.motorcyclecannonball.com/

I may have to go check out the grand finish in Santa Monica!
That's hard-core!
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start and end point is at the geographical center of the lower 48 near Lebanon, KS
Please oh please can it be anything but Kansas? Pretty please?

If I never set foot in Kansas again it will be too soon.
What did I forget about Kansas here..?
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THERE YOU GO! Scooterboy? Old As Dirt? looks like you have hatched the seeds of a MP3-500 four corners rally!!
3 wheels
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1 Rider
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6 Days
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What did I forget about Kansas here..?
I had to go through it twice. The first time creeped me out. The second time just annoyed the crap out of me.
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What did I forget about Kansas here..?
I had to go through it twice. The first time creeped me out. The second time just annoyed the crap out of me.
Just remember that agriculture is the foundation the economy. All the other things that people get to be and do is made possible by the farmer's ability to produce more than he needs for his own sustenance.

At least that's what I kept telling myself all those long hours.
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MP3 250 and 2 MP3 500s
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jess wrote:
TheO.Z. wrote:
What did I forget about Kansas here..?
I had to go through it twice. The first time creeped me out. The second time just annoyed the crap out of me.
Yeah Children of the Corn creepy.
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Sir Frets-A-Lot
Vespa GT250ie/L, Honda Ruckus 50, Honda NT700V, Honda CB125
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Vespa GT250ie/L, Honda Ruckus 50, Honda NT700V, Honda CB125
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Oh man this shit is coming up ain't it.

Hmmm.

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MP3 250
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MP3 250
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TheO.Z. wrote:
Oh man this shit is coming up ain't it.

Hmmm.

Yep this is your last full weekend and (28-29) . Sunday the 5th the scooter will be loaded into the trailer, and the die will have been cast. Kinda exciting don't you think?

Last weekend I installed a new variator, belt, and rollers. Mounted a spare tire on my extra rim and changed the oil and filter. Next weekend I will give the bike on last going over and I should be ready.
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2006 Piaggio BV250
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2006 Piaggio BV250
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My bike is going to Forward Air in less than a week. Just a few last minute adjustments left and some more fiddling with GPS (which fortunately I can continue for another week after the bike ships).
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Veni, Vidi, Posti
2007 GTS
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2007 GTS
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tension are rising , butterflys are forming. nerves are bouncing all over. So what did you forget?

Ya'll have a safe ride.
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Ossessionato
GTS, LX, VSD, VSX, VNX, LD 125, Chucky, LI125
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GTS, LX, VSD, VSX, VNX, LD 125, Chucky, LI125
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old as dirt wrote:
tension are rising , butterflys are forming, Bagel is crashing, nerves are bouncing all over........
(fixed that...)

Bagel lowsided today avoiding a cage entering the roadway unaware of the scooter.....nothing broken but skin & perhaps senue....oh yea, scraped up scooter...and he has video of it....

Surely he will be along with updates....

And the plot line thickens.....

R

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Aprilia Sportcity Cube 250ie, Stella 2T
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Aprilia Sportcity Cube 250ie, Stella 2T
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old as dirt wrote:
ericalm wrote:
A motorcycle cannonball being run soon is being done entirely on pre-1916 bikes.
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Pope, Sears, Flying Merkel, Excelsior, Henderson, Indian, Triumph, and the Harley-Davidson's Silent Grey Fellows. These are but a few of the vintage, pre-1916 motorcycles that will be thumping their way across these great United States for the Motorcycle Cannonball endurance run in September 2010. Riders will virtually dip their tread in the salty waters of the East Coast's Atlantic Ocean as the officials wave the green flag, then come to rest some 3,320 miles later, at the shoreline of the Pacific Ocean's West Coast.
http://www.motorcyclecannonball.com/

I may have to go check out the grand finish in Santa Monica!
my money is on Dale Walksler to win out of the 60 or so entrants
I didn't realize Dale was running in this event, but it makes sense. I now have someone to cheer.

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