Sat Mar 26, 2022 1:03 pm

Lucky
76 Sprint V, 63 GL, 62 VBB, 05 Stella, 66 Smallstate, 08 Stella (for now)
Joined: 16 Jun 2011
Posts: 6534
Location: Nashville
 
Lucky
76 Sprint V, 63 GL, 62 VBB, 05 Stella, 66 Smallstate, 08 Stella (for now)
Joined: 16 Jun 2011
Posts: 6534
Location: Nashville
Sat Mar 26, 2022 1:03 pm linkquote
orwell84 wrote:
But the factory racing BLUE feet….
Those were made in the Racing Foot Factory. Very rare part and definitely justifies the price.
Sat Mar 26, 2022 1:50 pm

Molto Verboso
Joined: 14 Oct 2016
Posts: 1166
Location: northern New York
 
Molto Verboso
Joined: 14 Oct 2016
Posts: 1166
Location: northern New York
Sat Mar 26, 2022 1:50 pm linkquote
chandlerman wrote:
Those were made in the Racing Foot Factory. Very rare part and definitely justifies the price.
Better snag that before it's procured by the Ho-Chi-Min People's Museum of Improvised Transportation.
Sat Mar 26, 2022 3:40 pm

Ossessionato
79 P200E (Ruby), 62 Allstate (B-62), 2008 Stella (Olive)
Joined: 11 Jan 2006
Posts: 3168
Location: Florence, OR
 
Ossessionato
79 P200E (Ruby), 62 Allstate (B-62), 2008 Stella (Olive)
Joined: 11 Jan 2006
Posts: 3168
Location: Florence, OR
Sat Mar 26, 2022 3:40 pm linkquote
Yesterday I drove up to yachats to check out a 65 Sprint for sale. I called Chris to see if he wanted to go for the road trip up the coast, and he was!

What we found was lots of peeling paint, with layers of Bondo under the paint. In lots of places on the scoot. But the gasket around the glovebox and a sticker in the glovebox from Indo sealed the "walk away" deal for me.

My thought was if I just got an engine out of the deal....not that I need an engine, but one on the shelf would be sweet.

The guy was a super nice guy and wanted me to get it running for him...uhhhh, no can do man...

So we got the heck out of there and thanked our lucky stars we didn't come home with a POS project!


Hmmmm


Back end is Bondo in there


Hmmmm


I pulled the filter and looked down the hole. A light layer of rust while I turned it over. I had to take the selector box cover off first and put it in neutral


Inside the tunnel. the gas in the tank was turpentine...


Ok, I've had enough, time to bail....

Sat Mar 26, 2022 4:09 pm

Sergeant at Arms
Weird 80's Vespas & Cool Vintage Lambrettas
Joined: 21 Oct 2005
Posts: 11836
Location: The state of insanity, SoCal
 
Sergeant at Arms
Weird 80's Vespas & Cool Vintage Lambrettas
Joined: 21 Oct 2005
Posts: 11836
Location: The state of insanity, SoCal
Sat Mar 26, 2022 4:09 pm linkquote
good gawd!

dodged a bullet I'd say.

at a benny you'd have over paid.
Sat Mar 26, 2022 5:41 pm

Ossessionato
2007 Stella 225
Joined: 02 Nov 2019
Posts: 3053
Location: Rochester, Minnesota
 
Ossessionato
2007 Stella 225
Joined: 02 Nov 2019
Posts: 3053
Location: Rochester, Minnesota
Sat Mar 26, 2022 5:41 pm linkquote
qascooter wrote:
Yesterday I drove up to yachats to check out a 65 Sprint for sale. I called Chris to see if he wanted to go for the road trip up the coast, and he was!

What we found was lots of peeling paint, with layers of Bondo under the paint. In lots of places on the scoot. But the gasket around the glovebox and a sticker in the glovebox from Indo sealed the "walk away" deal for me.

My thought was if I just got an engine out of the deal....not that I need an engine, but one on the shelf would be sweet.

The guy was a super nice guy and wanted me to get it running for him...uhhhh, no can do man...

So we got the heck out of there and thanked our lucky stars we didn't come home with a POS project!
You'd have to pay me to take it, to a metal scrap yard.
Sat Mar 26, 2022 6:32 pm

Molto Verboso
Scattered remnants of (two!) 1974 Rallys
Joined: 30 Jul 2009
Posts: 1646
Location: San Francisco, CA
 
Molto Verboso
Scattered remnants of (two!) 1974 Rallys
Joined: 30 Jul 2009
Posts: 1646
Location: San Francisco, CA
Sat Mar 26, 2022 6:32 pm linkquote
It has the headset from a Euro Rally/Sprint, looks like.

Probably the only valuable thing on it.
Sat Mar 26, 2022 6:47 pm

Hooked
Vespa 125 VMA, Vespa SS 180
Joined: 14 Feb 2018
Posts: 156
Location: Minneapolis, MN
 
Hooked
Vespa 125 VMA, Vespa SS 180
Joined: 14 Feb 2018
Posts: 156
Location: Minneapolis, MN
Sat Mar 26, 2022 6:47 pm linkquote
That engine looks like it was pulled up from the bottom of a lake!
Sat Mar 26, 2022 10:14 pm

Ossessionato
Vespas 1964 GS160, 1965 SS180, 1977 V9A1T, 1983 PX150E
Joined: 16 Apr 2011
Posts: 2235
Location: Siam
 
Ossessionato
Vespas 1964 GS160, 1965 SS180, 1977 V9A1T, 1983 PX150E
Joined: 16 Apr 2011
Posts: 2235
Location: Siam
Sat Mar 26, 2022 10:14 pm linkquote
qascooter wrote:
But the gasket around the glovebox and a sticker in the glovebox from Indo sealed the "walk away" deal for me.
That sticker ain't Indo; it's Thai. Indonesian script is the Roman alphabet. That has all the signs of shit-ass Siamese "restoration."
It says it comes from a Vespa shop in Chiang Mai, Thailand.
Sun Mar 27, 2022 1:22 am

Ossessionato
79 P200E (Ruby), 62 Allstate (B-62), 2008 Stella (Olive)
Joined: 11 Jan 2006
Posts: 3168
Location: Florence, OR
 
Ossessionato
79 P200E (Ruby), 62 Allstate (B-62), 2008 Stella (Olive)
Joined: 11 Jan 2006
Posts: 3168
Location: Florence, OR
Sun Mar 27, 2022 1:22 am linkquote
Thanks Nomad for the clarification!

From the ad I couldn't tell if it was painted locally or what. The guy had left it in a shed for eight years with the spark plug loose. It was stuck in 2nd so he pulled the plug so he could roll it around...

The oxidation in the carb box is what happens around here if left in a "shed" for years and years. And not all sheds are created equal.

I rescued a KTM 640 Duke II from oxidation death in the same manner. And the shed the Duke came out of was at least water tight. If you leave your car outside here during the winter months it's sure to grow moss and mildew...

I'm just glad Chris and I didn't drag that three legged puppy home.
Wed Mar 30, 2022 7:40 am

Hooked
Yellow GTS 300 Super, Black GTS 300 Super Sport, Polaris Grey Rally 200, Blue Marine Primavera ET3, Coral Red 50 Special
Joined: 14 Aug 2020
Posts: 226
Location: London
 
Hooked
Yellow GTS 300 Super, Black GTS 300 Super Sport, Polaris Grey Rally 200, Blue Marine Primavera ET3, Coral Red 50 Special
Joined: 14 Aug 2020
Posts: 226
Location: London
Wed Mar 30, 2022 7:40 am linkquote
Is this a bodge?

This one is advertised as Italian but seems to have MRF branded tyres on it.

[url] https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/203881737731?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=JCYx5zCOTVe&sssrc=2349624&ssuid=DTM6h59dTtS&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY[/url]
Wed Mar 30, 2022 7:47 am

Molto Verboso
1958 Allstate 177VMC, 2005 70cc Yamaha Vino
Joined: 23 Aug 2020
Posts: 1101
Location: Philadelphia
 
Molto Verboso
1958 Allstate 177VMC, 2005 70cc Yamaha Vino
Joined: 23 Aug 2020
Posts: 1101
Location: Philadelphia
Wed Mar 30, 2022 7:47 am linkquote
Sure looks like it.

10" wheels, key under the seat, 2 tone paint, no mat on top of the tunnel etc etc
Wed Mar 30, 2022 7:48 am

Lucky
76 Sprint V, 63 GL, 62 VBB, 05 Stella, 66 Smallstate, 08 Stella (for now)
Joined: 16 Jun 2011
Posts: 6534
Location: Nashville
 
Lucky
76 Sprint V, 63 GL, 62 VBB, 05 Stella, 66 Smallstate, 08 Stella (for now)
Joined: 16 Jun 2011
Posts: 6534
Location: Nashville
Wed Mar 30, 2022 7:48 am linkquote
Rallygeek wrote:
Hard to say for sure, but quite possibly. I don't know the details of UK bikes well enough to say for sure.

It's a VBB with 10" wheels and the ignition under the seat, both of which are immediately suspicious. Looks like there might be some bondo cracking around the glovebox door, which would immediately give me pause.

And the center mat should be a mat, not rails.

Also, crappy legshield trim installation, plus no picture of the motor.
Wed Mar 30, 2022 7:55 am

Hooked
Yellow GTS 300 Super, Black GTS 300 Super Sport, Polaris Grey Rally 200, Blue Marine Primavera ET3, Coral Red 50 Special
Joined: 14 Aug 2020
Posts: 226
Location: London
 
Hooked
Yellow GTS 300 Super, Black GTS 300 Super Sport, Polaris Grey Rally 200, Blue Marine Primavera ET3, Coral Red 50 Special
Joined: 14 Aug 2020
Posts: 226
Location: London
Wed Mar 30, 2022 7:55 am linkquote
Also the seat looks much more modern too
Wed Mar 30, 2022 7:57 am

Lucky
76 Sprint V, 63 GL, 62 VBB, 05 Stella, 66 Smallstate, 08 Stella (for now)
Joined: 16 Jun 2011
Posts: 6534
Location: Nashville
 
Lucky
76 Sprint V, 63 GL, 62 VBB, 05 Stella, 66 Smallstate, 08 Stella (for now)
Joined: 16 Jun 2011
Posts: 6534
Location: Nashville
Wed Mar 30, 2022 7:57 am linkquote
Rallygeek wrote:
Also the seat looks much more modern too
Is "more modern" a euphemism for "terrible fit?"
Wed Mar 30, 2022 8:10 am

Ossessionato
1979 P150X, 1983 P200E, 1988 T5, 1995 PX200E, 2011 Yamaha Fazer 600 S2
Joined: 02 Aug 2015
Posts: 3206
Location: Veria, Greece
 
Ossessionato
1979 P150X, 1983 P200E, 1988 T5, 1995 PX200E, 2011 Yamaha Fazer 600 S2
Joined: 02 Aug 2015
Posts: 3206
Location: Veria, Greece
Wed Mar 30, 2022 8:10 am linkquote
I'd say 99%, huge telltale are the crash bars that are fixed on the cowls. Lots of bodges got and still are sold in the UK. Problem is the UK folks seem to be offended too easily if you point the obvious, so I don't bother anymore…
Wed Mar 30, 2022 8:12 am

Lucky
76 Sprint V, 63 GL, 62 VBB, 05 Stella, 66 Smallstate, 08 Stella (for now)
Joined: 16 Jun 2011
Posts: 6534
Location: Nashville
 
Lucky
76 Sprint V, 63 GL, 62 VBB, 05 Stella, 66 Smallstate, 08 Stella (for now)
Joined: 16 Jun 2011
Posts: 6534
Location: Nashville
Wed Mar 30, 2022 8:12 am linkquote
SaFiS wrote:
I'd say 99%, huge telltale are the crash bars that are fixed on the cowls. Lots of bodges got and still are sold in the UK. Problem is the UK folks seem to be offended too easily if you point the obvious, so I don't bother anymore…
I always miss that detail for some reason. It's so obvious, too.
Thu Apr 14, 2022 12:12 pm

Addicted
'07 GTS250, '07 LX150, '81 P200E, '80 P200E, '64 V90 and 3 Ciaos
Joined: 27 Mar 2014
Posts: 530
Location: Tucson, AZ
 
Addicted
'07 GTS250, '07 LX150, '81 P200E, '80 P200E, '64 V90 and 3 Ciaos
Joined: 27 Mar 2014
Posts: 530
Location: Tucson, AZ
Thu Apr 14, 2022 6:25 pm

Ossessionato
P208, Stella VMC Stelvio 187, Stella 150, VNX1T, V9A1T, V9B1T, 02 Sportster XLH1208
Joined: 20 Jul 2018
Posts: 3993
Location: Staten Island, NY
 
Ossessionato
P208, Stella VMC Stelvio 187, Stella 150, VNX1T, V9A1T, V9B1T, 02 Sportster XLH1208
Joined: 20 Jul 2018
Posts: 3993
Location: Staten Island, NY
Thu Apr 14, 2022 6:25 pm linkquote
Not a bodge, but damn that's a bodge paint job!

Didn't even remove the bearing races and painted right over the fork and handle bar tubes. Good luck getting that stuff to fit and work!

https://m.facebook.com/marketplace/item/268844648581083/
Thu Apr 21, 2022 7:40 pm

Member
Joined: 07 Jun 2018
Posts: 41
Location: Maryland
 
Member
Joined: 07 Jun 2018
Posts: 41
Location: Maryland
Thu Apr 21, 2022 7:40 pm linkquote
Subtle bodge or just a slightly off resto? Fat legshield trim, added glovebox, 10" wheels, but not overly obvious as a bodge.

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/405566524736589/
Fri Apr 22, 2022 12:08 pm

Molto Verboso
Scattered remnants of (two!) 1974 Rallys
Joined: 30 Jul 2009
Posts: 1646
Location: San Francisco, CA
 
Molto Verboso
Scattered remnants of (two!) 1974 Rallys
Joined: 30 Jul 2009
Posts: 1646
Location: San Francisco, CA
Fri Apr 22, 2022 12:08 pm linkquote
JLeather wrote:
Subtle bodge or just a slightly off resto? Fat legshield trim, added glovebox, 10" wheels, but not overly obvious as a bodge.

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/405566524736589/
This one for sure.

It doesn't look bad. It's apparently a Super with a 10" conversion. All the telltale signs. But looks nice.





Fri Apr 22, 2022 3:21 pm

Molto Verboso
Joined: 14 Oct 2016
Posts: 1166
Location: northern New York
 
Molto Verboso
Joined: 14 Oct 2016
Posts: 1166
Location: northern New York
Fri Apr 22, 2022 3:21 pm linkquote
I read about a restorer based in Vietnam with an Australian owner. I know I can't name names. Do any of the bodges come from there?
Fri Apr 22, 2022 5:04 pm

Molto Verboso
1958 Allstate 177VMC, 2005 70cc Yamaha Vino
Joined: 23 Aug 2020
Posts: 1101
Location: Philadelphia
 
Molto Verboso
1958 Allstate 177VMC, 2005 70cc Yamaha Vino
Joined: 23 Aug 2020
Posts: 1101
Location: Philadelphia
Fri Apr 22, 2022 5:04 pm linkquote
The thing that is confusing me is the price, that's not bodge pricing!
Fri Apr 22, 2022 6:41 pm

Hooked
'58 VBA '79CT90
Joined: 25 Dec 2019
Posts: 141
Location: Chico CA
 
Hooked
'58 VBA '79CT90
Joined: 25 Dec 2019
Posts: 141
Location: Chico CA
Fri Apr 22, 2022 6:41 pm linkquote
https://sacramento.craigslist.org/mpo/d/ivanhoe-1965-vespa/7470080543.html



It's the harbinger of Spring. Three years at least this one pops up. Price never changes.



Fri Apr 22, 2022 10:38 pm

The Dude
Too Many piles of Junk that need too much work and too much money
Joined: 06 May 2019
Posts: 1442
Location: PNW from LBC
 
The Dude
Too Many piles of Junk that need too much work and too much money
Joined: 06 May 2019
Posts: 1442
Location: PNW from LBC
Fri Apr 22, 2022 10:38 pm linkquote
Grumpnut wrote:
https://sacramento.craigslist.org/mpo/d/ivanhoe-1965-vespa/7470080543.html



It's the harbinger of Spring. Three years at least this one pops up. Price never changes.
I would buy this thing just to keep it from being posted again, and to see whats reeeeeally up with it. Seen it so long I'm so curious
Sat Apr 23, 2022 11:30 am

Molto Verboso
Joined: 14 Oct 2016
Posts: 1166
Location: northern New York
 
Molto Verboso
Joined: 14 Oct 2016
Posts: 1166
Location: northern New York
Sat Apr 23, 2022 11:30 am linkquote
orwell84 wrote:
I read about a restorer based in Vietnam with an Australian owner. I know I can't name names. Do any of the bodges come from there?
I searched around and found the answer. Nuff said…
Sat Apr 23, 2022 11:38 am

Molto Verboso
'64 Motovespa 150S (177) , '66 Allstate SF, '65 VBB, '66 180SS
Joined: 27 Mar 2013
Posts: 1419
Location: S.Salem, NY
 
Molto Verboso
'64 Motovespa 150S (177) , '66 Allstate SF, '65 VBB, '66 180SS
Joined: 27 Mar 2013
Posts: 1419
Location: S.Salem, NY
Sat Apr 23, 2022 11:38 am linkquote
Here's a beauty.
$5,500 ( down from $8,999?) ? Meh. The chrome's worth that ! Too bad they left off the steering cap.

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/3370910406470902/



Sat Apr 23, 2022 1:38 pm

Hooked
'58 VBA '79CT90
Joined: 25 Dec 2019
Posts: 141
Location: Chico CA
 
Hooked
'58 VBA '79CT90
Joined: 25 Dec 2019
Posts: 141
Location: Chico CA
Sat Apr 23, 2022 1:38 pm linkquote
The rear bumper, lol.
Sat Apr 23, 2022 1:44 pm

Molto Verboso
Scattered remnants of (two!) 1974 Rallys
Joined: 30 Jul 2009
Posts: 1646
Location: San Francisco, CA
 
Molto Verboso
Scattered remnants of (two!) 1974 Rallys
Joined: 30 Jul 2009
Posts: 1646
Location: San Francisco, CA
Sat Apr 23, 2022 1:44 pm linkquote
All that work for 372 km. (231 miles).
Sat Apr 23, 2022 2:24 pm

Molto Verboso
1958 Allstate 177VMC, 2005 70cc Yamaha Vino
Joined: 23 Aug 2020
Posts: 1101
Location: Philadelphia
 
Molto Verboso
1958 Allstate 177VMC, 2005 70cc Yamaha Vino
Joined: 23 Aug 2020
Posts: 1101
Location: Philadelphia
Sat Apr 23, 2022 2:24 pm linkquote
That yellow one is hideous.
Sat Apr 23, 2022 2:31 pm

Molto Verboso
Joined: 14 Oct 2016
Posts: 1166
Location: northern New York
 
Molto Verboso
Joined: 14 Oct 2016
Posts: 1166
Location: northern New York
Sat Apr 23, 2022 2:31 pm linkquote
FridayMatinee wrote:
That yellow one is hideous.
And not in a compelling way…like Liberace's living room on 2 wheels.
Sun Apr 24, 2022 2:54 am

Molto Verboso
'64 Motovespa 150S (177) , '66 Allstate SF, '65 VBB, '66 180SS
Joined: 27 Mar 2013
Posts: 1419
Location: S.Salem, NY
 
Molto Verboso
'64 Motovespa 150S (177) , '66 Allstate SF, '65 VBB, '66 180SS
Joined: 27 Mar 2013
Posts: 1419
Location: S.Salem, NY
Sun Apr 24, 2022 2:54 am linkquote
You'd think that for $5,500 you'd at least get a proper leg shield glove box !
Fri Apr 29, 2022 9:19 am

Member
Joined: 07 Jun 2018
Posts: 41
Location: Maryland
 
Member
Joined: 07 Jun 2018
Posts: 41
Location: Maryland
Fri Apr 29, 2022 9:19 am linkquote
hjo wrote:
All that work for 372 km. (231 miles).
This one didn't even get that many!

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/269946602020915/
Fri Apr 29, 2022 10:43 am

Molto Verboso
'64 Motovespa 150S (177) , '66 Allstate SF, '65 VBB, '66 180SS
Joined: 27 Mar 2013
Posts: 1419
Location: S.Salem, NY
 
Molto Verboso
'64 Motovespa 150S (177) , '66 Allstate SF, '65 VBB, '66 180SS
Joined: 27 Mar 2013
Posts: 1419
Location: S.Salem, NY
Fri Apr 29, 2022 10:43 am linkquote
How about those sweet chrome rims ?
Fri Apr 29, 2022 11:04 am

Lucky
76 Sprint V, 63 GL, 62 VBB, 05 Stella, 66 Smallstate, 08 Stella (for now)
Joined: 16 Jun 2011
Posts: 6534
Location: Nashville
 
Lucky
76 Sprint V, 63 GL, 62 VBB, 05 Stella, 66 Smallstate, 08 Stella (for now)
Joined: 16 Jun 2011
Posts: 6534
Location: Nashville
Fri Apr 29, 2022 11:04 am linkquote
JLeather wrote:
I like the nipples turn signals. I'll bet you can milk those puppies.
Fri Apr 29, 2022 11:33 am

Hooked
'58 VBA '79CT90
Joined: 25 Dec 2019
Posts: 141
Location: Chico CA
 
Hooked
'58 VBA '79CT90
Joined: 25 Dec 2019
Posts: 141
Location: Chico CA
Fri Apr 29, 2022 11:33 am linkquote
Beautifully restored or Original. Can't be both.
Fri Apr 29, 2022 2:17 pm

Addicted
1968 VBB150
Joined: 04 Nov 2015
Posts: 611
Location: OC
 
Addicted
1968 VBB150
Joined: 04 Nov 2015
Posts: 611
Location: OC
Fri Apr 29, 2022 2:17 pm linkquote
tsk tsk- not even a chrome kickstart. Filthy casual.
Fri Apr 29, 2022 2:46 pm

Sergeant at Arms
Weird 80's Vespas & Cool Vintage Lambrettas
Joined: 21 Oct 2005
Posts: 11836
Location: The state of insanity, SoCal
 
Sergeant at Arms
Weird 80's Vespas & Cool Vintage Lambrettas
Joined: 21 Oct 2005
Posts: 11836
Location: The state of insanity, SoCal
Fri Apr 29, 2022 2:46 pm linkquote
Moto64 wrote:
Here's a beauty.
$5,500 ( down from $8,999?) ? Meh. The chrome's worth that ! Too bad they left off the steering cap.

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/3370910406470902/
nah, that's all repop bullshittery.

but mah gawd, that yellow!
Fri Apr 29, 2022 2:51 pm

Molto Verboso
'64 Motovespa 150S (177) , '66 Allstate SF, '65 VBB, '66 180SS
Joined: 27 Mar 2013
Posts: 1419
Location: S.Salem, NY
 
Molto Verboso
'64 Motovespa 150S (177) , '66 Allstate SF, '65 VBB, '66 180SS
Joined: 27 Mar 2013
Posts: 1419
Location: S.Salem, NY
Fri Apr 29, 2022 2:51 pm linkquote
greasy125 wrote:
nah, that's all repop bullshittery.

but mah gawd, that yellow!
No! Say it ain't so! Now you're going to tell me that isn't even an original color.
Sun May 01, 2022 5:28 pm

Member
P200E, Rally 200
Joined: 15 Nov 2020
Posts: 38
Location: Ohio
 
Member
P200E, Rally 200
Joined: 15 Nov 2020
Posts: 38
Location: Ohio
Sun May 01, 2022 5:28 pm linkquote
Pure American cornfed farmbodge.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/ChicagoVespisti/posts/4978443992251418/









Sun May 01, 2022 5:57 pm

Lucky
76 Sprint V, 63 GL, 62 VBB, 05 Stella, 66 Smallstate, 08 Stella (for now)
Joined: 16 Jun 2011
Posts: 6534
Location: Nashville
 
Lucky
76 Sprint V, 63 GL, 62 VBB, 05 Stella, 66 Smallstate, 08 Stella (for now)
Joined: 16 Jun 2011
Posts: 6534
Location: Nashville
Sun May 01, 2022 5:57 pm linkquote
Wowza. I didn't even know Briggs & Stratton even MADE scooters.

that thing is insane. I'm glad he went with the wide tire option since he'd probably have trouble putting the power on the ground otherwise. Or maybe it's to keep the wheels from crushing the grass when he mows with it...
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