Sun May 01, 2022 6:05 pm

MV Santa
GTS250, 1960 VBA, 1975 VBC, 1980 P200E cutdown
Joined: 04 May 2010
Posts: 4582
Location: Sedgwick, Kansas
 
MV Santa
GTS250, 1960 VBA, 1975 VBC, 1980 P200E cutdown
Joined: 04 May 2010
Posts: 4582
Location: Sedgwick, Kansas
Sun May 01, 2022 6:05 pm linkquote
chandlerman wrote:
Wowza. I didn't even know Briggs & Stratton even MADE scooters.

that thing is insane. I'm glad he went with the wide tire option since he'd probably have trouble putting the power on the ground otherwise. Or maybe it's to keep the wheels from crushing the grass when he mows with it...
As far as I know all Cushman scooters used Briggs and Stratton engines.

That's pretty impressive. It looks like it might actually work. I especially like the hydraulic disc brake.
Sun May 01, 2022 6:47 pm

Ossessionato
Vespas 1964 GS160, 1965 SS180, 1977 V9A1T, 1983 PX150E
Joined: 16 Apr 2011
Posts: 2234
Location: Siam
 
Ossessionato
Vespas 1964 GS160, 1965 SS180, 1977 V9A1T, 1983 PX150E
Joined: 16 Apr 2011
Posts: 2234
Location: Siam
Sun May 01, 2022 6:47 pm linkquote
That's no bodge. That's an Indo-inspired improvisation for industrial application only.
Sun May 01, 2022 7:03 pm

Ossessionato
Joined: 26 Oct 2015
Posts: 3749

 
Ossessionato
Joined: 26 Oct 2015
Posts: 3749

Sun May 01, 2022 7:03 pm linkquote
chandlerman wrote:
I like the nipples turn signals. I'll bet you can milk those puppies.
Squeeze hard enough and they'll produce blinker fluid.
Sun May 01, 2022 7:05 pm

Lucky
76 Sprint V, 63 GL, 62 VBB, 05 Stella, 66 Smallstate, 08 Stella (for now)
Joined: 16 Jun 2011
Posts: 6498
Location: Nashville
 
Lucky
76 Sprint V, 63 GL, 62 VBB, 05 Stella, 66 Smallstate, 08 Stella (for now)
Joined: 16 Jun 2011
Posts: 6498
Location: Nashville
Sun May 01, 2022 7:05 pm linkquote
whodatschrome wrote:
Squeeze hard enough and they'll produce blinker fluid.
Sun May 01, 2022 10:29 pm

The Dude
Too Many piles of Junk that need too much work and too much money
Joined: 06 May 2019
Posts: 1442
Location: PNW from LBC
 
The Dude
Too Many piles of Junk that need too much work and too much money
Joined: 06 May 2019
Posts: 1442
Location: PNW from LBC
Sun May 01, 2022 10:29 pm linkquote
my brain hurts
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Tue Jun 07, 2022 12:17 pm

Ossessionato
P208, Stella VMC Stelvio 187, Stella 150, VNX1T, V9A1T, V9B1T, 02 Sportster XLH1208
Joined: 20 Jul 2018
Posts: 3985
Location: Staten Island, NY
 
Ossessionato
P208, Stella VMC Stelvio 187, Stella 150, VNX1T, V9A1T, V9B1T, 02 Sportster XLH1208
Joined: 20 Jul 2018
Posts: 3985
Location: Staten Island, NY
Tue Jun 07, 2022 12:17 pm linkquote
$6,800 is a steal for this gem restored with all original parts.

https://washingtondc.craigslist.org/nva/mcy/d/fairfax-station-vespa-scooter/7492057573.html



Tue Jun 07, 2022 12:29 pm

Ossessionato
1979 P150X, 1983 P200E, 1988 T5, 1995 PX200E, 2011 Yamaha Fazer 600 S2
Joined: 02 Aug 2015
Posts: 3198
Location: Veria, Greece
 
Ossessionato
1979 P150X, 1983 P200E, 1988 T5, 1995 PX200E, 2011 Yamaha Fazer 600 S2
Joined: 02 Aug 2015
Posts: 3198
Location: Veria, Greece
Tue Jun 07, 2022 12:29 pm linkquote
swiss1939 wrote:
$6,800 is a steal for this gem restored with all original parts.

https://washingtondc.craigslist.org/nva/mcy/d/fairfax-station-vespa-scooter/7492057573.html
Says "Classic 1963" on plate so it's definitely legit...
Tue Jun 07, 2022 12:57 pm

Veni, Vidi, Posti
'15 GTS300, '86 PX125EFL, '66 VBB, '04 Ninja 250
Joined: 04 Apr 2013
Posts: 6497
Location: San Diego, CA
 
Veni, Vidi, Posti
'15 GTS300, '86 PX125EFL, '66 VBB, '04 Ninja 250
Joined: 04 Apr 2013
Posts: 6497
Location: San Diego, CA
Tue Jun 07, 2022 12:57 pm linkquote
swiss1939 wrote:
$6,800 is a steal for this gem restored with all original parts.

https://washingtondc.craigslist.org/nva/mcy/d/fairfax-station-vespa-scooter/7492057573.html
not even titled in the US, not trying to hide anything eh?
Tue Jun 07, 2022 1:41 pm

Molto Verboso
Joined: 14 Oct 2016
Posts: 1157
Location: northern New York
 
Molto Verboso
Joined: 14 Oct 2016
Posts: 1157
Location: northern New York
Tue Jun 07, 2022 1:41 pm linkquote
That scooter just screams, Me love you long time.
Tue Jun 07, 2022 1:48 pm

Ossessionato
1979 P150X, 1983 P200E, 1988 T5, 1995 PX200E, 2011 Yamaha Fazer 600 S2
Joined: 02 Aug 2015
Posts: 3198
Location: Veria, Greece
 
Ossessionato
1979 P150X, 1983 P200E, 1988 T5, 1995 PX200E, 2011 Yamaha Fazer 600 S2
Joined: 02 Aug 2015
Posts: 3198
Location: Veria, Greece
Tue Jun 07, 2022 1:48 pm linkquote
Looks more like a Pakistani or Indian restoration rather than Vietnamese…
Fri Jun 10, 2022 2:53 pm

Hooked
2005 et4
Joined: 23 May 2015
Posts: 496
Location: oshawa ontario canada
 
Hooked
2005 et4
Joined: 23 May 2015
Posts: 496
Location: oshawa ontario canada
Fri Jun 10, 2022 2:53 pm linkquote
For the experts to examine...

https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/1963-piaggio-vespa-150
Fri Jun 10, 2022 3:02 pm

Ossessionato
79 P200E (Ruby), 62 Allstate (B-62), 2008 Stella (Olive)
Joined: 11 Jan 2006
Posts: 3162
Location: Florence, OR
 
Ossessionato
79 P200E (Ruby), 62 Allstate (B-62), 2008 Stella (Olive)
Joined: 11 Jan 2006
Posts: 3162
Location: Florence, OR
Fri Jun 10, 2022 3:02 pm linkquote
duane1 wrote:
What I want to know, is who carries a big ole key chain that blows around and beats up paint?
Fri Jun 10, 2022 9:28 pm

Ossessionato
P208, Stella VMC Stelvio 187, Stella 150, VNX1T, V9A1T, V9B1T, 02 Sportster XLH1208
Joined: 20 Jul 2018
Posts: 3985
Location: Staten Island, NY
 
Ossessionato
P208, Stella VMC Stelvio 187, Stella 150, VNX1T, V9A1T, V9B1T, 02 Sportster XLH1208
Joined: 20 Jul 2018
Posts: 3985
Location: Staten Island, NY
Fri Jun 10, 2022 9:28 pm linkquote
qascooter wrote:
What I want to know, is who carries a big ole key chain that blows around and beats up paint?
What I want to know is why are they always 1963? "Mostly original". Except not.
Fri Jun 10, 2022 10:01 pm

Style Maven
'74 50s x3 '78 P200 E '84 Cosa '91 PK50XL2 '58 AllState '68 Sprint '80 50special and a '66(?) Super125
Joined: 22 Nov 2010
Posts: 8789
Location: seattle/athens
 
Style Maven
'74 50s x3 '78 P200 E '84 Cosa '91 PK50XL2 '58 AllState '68 Sprint '80 50special and a '66(?) Super125
Joined: 22 Nov 2010
Posts: 8789
Location: seattle/athens
Fri Jun 10, 2022 10:01 pm linkquote
What I want to know is why they bothered to put up 158 photos of this colourful POS. Did somebody get a new camera/phone?


Lots of detail anyway, you'll see that somebody's already installed a more modern brake pedal for you, as well as a glovebox and some kinda deluxe floor trim!
Sat Jun 11, 2022 5:49 am

Lucky
76 Sprint V, 63 GL, 62 VBB, 05 Stella, 66 Smallstate, 08 Stella (for now)
Joined: 16 Jun 2011
Posts: 6498
Location: Nashville
 
Lucky
76 Sprint V, 63 GL, 62 VBB, 05 Stella, 66 Smallstate, 08 Stella (for now)
Joined: 16 Jun 2011
Posts: 6498
Location: Nashville
Sat Jun 11, 2022 5:49 am linkquote
It's a Mullet Bike: Modern up front, classic in the rear.
Sat Jun 11, 2022 3:09 pm

Molto Verboso
'64 Motovespa 150S (177) , '66 Allstate SF, '65 VBB, '66 180SS
Joined: 27 Mar 2013
Posts: 1417
Location: S.Salem, NY
 
Molto Verboso
'64 Motovespa 150S (177) , '66 Allstate SF, '65 VBB, '66 180SS
Joined: 27 Mar 2013
Posts: 1417
Location: S.Salem, NY
Sat Jun 11, 2022 3:09 pm linkquote
I think the left side cowl trim is original.
Mon Jun 13, 2022 9:52 pm

Molto Verboso
Scattered remnants of (two!) 1974 Rallys
Joined: 30 Jul 2009
Posts: 1633
Location: San Francisco, CA
 
Molto Verboso
Scattered remnants of (two!) 1974 Rallys
Joined: 30 Jul 2009
Posts: 1633
Location: San Francisco, CA
Mon Jun 13, 2022 9:52 pm linkquote
Another one of these videos.

These are so wild.











Tue Jun 14, 2022 12:15 am

Addicted
PX 200
Joined: 25 May 2016
Posts: 927

 
Addicted
PX 200
Joined: 25 May 2016
Posts: 927

Tue Jun 14, 2022 12:15 am linkquote
Bondo bike.

Looks clean, will probably last a few months before cracking.
Tue Jun 14, 2022 2:24 am

Sergeant at Arms
Weird 80's Vespas & Cool Vintage Lambrettas
Joined: 21 Oct 2005
Posts: 11803
Location: The state of insanity, SoCal
 
Sergeant at Arms
Weird 80's Vespas & Cool Vintage Lambrettas
Joined: 21 Oct 2005
Posts: 11803
Location: The state of insanity, SoCal
Tue Jun 14, 2022 2:24 am linkquote
duane1 wrote:
total junk. P style brake pedal is the jumping off point.
the leg shield glovebox, add in the absolutely shitty tail light, seats, rear rack situation. PX floor mat, disgusting "polished" floor runners, poorly converted front brake to 10"-- jeebus you see those cables? yeesh. shit trim. PX kick lever. gross ass trim.

barf. this is just a pile of parts.

it appears to have a PX motor, so I'm thinking like, 800~1G if it's got up to date tags and a title. other wise this lump is maybe 500 if you within a half days drive.
Tue Jun 14, 2022 2:25 am

Sergeant at Arms
Weird 80's Vespas & Cool Vintage Lambrettas
Joined: 21 Oct 2005
Posts: 11803
Location: The state of insanity, SoCal
 
Sergeant at Arms
Weird 80's Vespas & Cool Vintage Lambrettas
Joined: 21 Oct 2005
Posts: 11803
Location: The state of insanity, SoCal
Tue Jun 14, 2022 2:25 am linkquote
hjo wrote:
Another one of these videos.

These are so wild.

good lord.

just no.

I mean, I respect the craft... but that is junk. it's gonna look okay for like 10 min
Tue Jun 14, 2022 3:07 am

Molto Verboso
'64 Motovespa 150S (177) , '66 Allstate SF, '65 VBB, '66 180SS
Joined: 27 Mar 2013
Posts: 1417
Location: S.Salem, NY
 
Molto Verboso
'64 Motovespa 150S (177) , '66 Allstate SF, '65 VBB, '66 180SS
Joined: 27 Mar 2013
Posts: 1417
Location: S.Salem, NY
Tue Jun 14, 2022 3:07 am linkquote
I watch these and think about all the time I have wasted on my projects.
Tue Jun 14, 2022 8:01 am

Molto Verboso
Scattered remnants of (two!) 1974 Rallys
Joined: 30 Jul 2009
Posts: 1633
Location: San Francisco, CA
 
Molto Verboso
Scattered remnants of (two!) 1974 Rallys
Joined: 30 Jul 2009
Posts: 1633
Location: San Francisco, CA
Tue Jun 14, 2022 8:01 am linkquote
These welding on these is so wild.

Like, they salvaged this fender, which is missing the whole back part.

Then they do this super rough stick welding, where they don't even try to get the metal smooth. They'll weld sheets on top of each other, then sculpt a whole exterior on top of it.

And the result really does look nice. At least initially.





Sun Jul 10, 2022 1:01 pm

Hooked
2020 piaggio liberty 150 2006 Piaggio BV 250 carbureted
Joined: 12 Feb 2022
Posts: 301
Location: Reno Nevada
 
Hooked
2020 piaggio liberty 150 2006 Piaggio BV 250 carbureted
Joined: 12 Feb 2022
Posts: 301
Location: Reno Nevada
Sun Jul 10, 2022 1:01 pm linkquote
Does a scooter from Bali automatically qualify as a bodge?

https://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/mcy/d/san-francisco-1974-vespa-sprint-veloce/7506777869.html
Sun Jul 10, 2022 1:20 pm

Molto Verboso
Scattered remnants of (two!) 1974 Rallys
Joined: 30 Jul 2009
Posts: 1633
Location: San Francisco, CA
 
Molto Verboso
Scattered remnants of (two!) 1974 Rallys
Joined: 30 Jul 2009
Posts: 1633
Location: San Francisco, CA
Sun Jul 10, 2022 1:20 pm linkquote
skids wrote:
Might be worth a close inspection.
Sun Jul 10, 2022 1:46 pm

Molto Verboso
Joined: 29 Nov 2020
Posts: 1033
Location: Los Angeles
 
Molto Verboso
Joined: 29 Nov 2020
Posts: 1033
Location: Los Angeles
Sun Jul 10, 2022 1:46 pm linkquote
skids wrote:
I would assume so.

Spent a bit of time across the street from a Balibodge shop during their heyday.
They'd fill a 20ft container every week.
Sun Jul 10, 2022 2:04 pm

Hooked
Ratty & Reliable 1959 VBA , P125 Engine w/ 166, P200 Primary, 24/24, Sim Pipe, original 8's
Joined: 10 Apr 2021
Posts: 143
Location: Winder GA
 
Hooked
Ratty & Reliable 1959 VBA , P125 Engine w/ 166, P200 Primary, 24/24, Sim Pipe, original 8's
Joined: 10 Apr 2021
Posts: 143
Location: Winder GA
Sun Jul 10, 2022 2:04 pm linkquote
125? 150? 3 speed? 4?

But the listing does say "Caveat Emptor".

https://www.ebay.com/itm/325259596503?hash=item4bbafb92d7:g:0SgAAOSwm4ximoMJ
Sun Jul 10, 2022 6:49 pm

Addicted
PX 200
Joined: 25 May 2016
Posts: 927

 
Addicted
PX 200
Joined: 25 May 2016
Posts: 927

Sun Jul 10, 2022 6:49 pm linkquote
Comes with a vape.

But why invest if you can't get it on the road? Or can you?
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Wed Aug 10, 2022 8:33 am

Hooked
'66 Sears Cruisaire Smallframe
Joined: 12 Aug 2019
Posts: 241
Location: York, PA
 
Hooked
'66 Sears Cruisaire Smallframe
Joined: 12 Aug 2019
Posts: 241
Location: York, PA
Wed Aug 10, 2022 8:33 am linkquote
These have been piling up in my local Facebook listings

$4000
https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1341495953011568/

$3500 - needs electrical work
https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/827074062029461/

$4500
https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/439504474727915/

With respective pics:







Wed Aug 10, 2022 2:27 pm

Veni, Vidi, Posti
Joined: 22 Oct 2011
Posts: 5149
Location: Tega Cay, SC
 
Veni, Vidi, Posti
Joined: 22 Oct 2011
Posts: 5149
Location: Tega Cay, SC
Wed Aug 10, 2022 2:27 pm linkquote
^^^These sellers are smoking crack.
Wed Aug 10, 2022 2:49 pm

Enthusiast
1979 Vespa P200E
Joined: 08 Feb 2010
Posts: 88
Location: San Jose, CA
 
Enthusiast
1979 Vespa P200E
Joined: 08 Feb 2010
Posts: 88
Location: San Jose, CA
Wed Aug 10, 2022 2:49 pm linkquote
Those should be piling up in the trash heap !!!!
r_fostoria wrote:
These have been piling up in my local Facebook listings

$4000
https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1341495953011568/

$3500 - needs electrical work
https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/827074062029461/

$4500
https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/439504474727915/

With respective pics:
Wed Aug 10, 2022 2:51 pm

Lucky
76 Sprint V, 63 GL, 62 VBB, 05 Stella, 66 Smallstate, 08 Stella (for now)
Joined: 16 Jun 2011
Posts: 6498
Location: Nashville
 
Lucky
76 Sprint V, 63 GL, 62 VBB, 05 Stella, 66 Smallstate, 08 Stella (for now)
Joined: 16 Jun 2011
Posts: 6498
Location: Nashville
Wed Aug 10, 2022 2:51 pm linkquote
almogavar69 wrote:
Those should be piling up in the trash heap !!!!
As the chrome has rusted and the bondo cracked, I think more and more of them are.
Wed Aug 10, 2022 4:42 pm

Molto Verboso
Joined: 29 Nov 2020
Posts: 1033
Location: Los Angeles
 
Molto Verboso
Joined: 29 Nov 2020
Posts: 1033
Location: Los Angeles
Wed Aug 10, 2022 4:42 pm linkquote
One or two too-honest dudes have mentioned "professionally restored in Vietnam" in their descriptions on CL.

Starting to think there may be a bright side to these bikes. Keeps the prices down on real ones, that have the same description but don't look so shiny.


They just need to be repurposed.

Wed Aug 10, 2022 8:37 pm

Hooked
Parmakit Primavera -74, Polini Primavera -68, Stock 150 Touring -59, VMC 177 Bajaj Chetak 125 -95
Joined: 22 Jun 2022
Posts: 388
Location: Finland
 
Hooked
Parmakit Primavera -74, Polini Primavera -68, Stock 150 Touring -59, VMC 177 Bajaj Chetak 125 -95
Joined: 22 Jun 2022
Posts: 388
Location: Finland
Wed Aug 10, 2022 8:37 pm linkquote
Sadly after some "professional restoring" they are no longer usable for their intended purpose

I'm quite glad there are really little to no bodges around here.
Wed Aug 17, 2022 5:16 am

Hooked
'66 Sears Cruisaire Smallframe
Joined: 12 Aug 2019
Posts: 241
Location: York, PA
 
Hooked
'66 Sears Cruisaire Smallframe
Joined: 12 Aug 2019
Posts: 241
Location: York, PA
Wed Aug 17, 2022 5:16 am linkquote
Oh boy, check out this beauty.

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/793882271637546/





Wed Aug 17, 2022 5:30 am

Molto Verboso
'64 Motovespa 150S (177) , '66 Allstate SF, '65 VBB, '66 180SS
Joined: 27 Mar 2013
Posts: 1417
Location: S.Salem, NY
 
Molto Verboso
'64 Motovespa 150S (177) , '66 Allstate SF, '65 VBB, '66 180SS
Joined: 27 Mar 2013
Posts: 1417
Location: S.Salem, NY
Wed Aug 17, 2022 5:30 am linkquote
" needs a paint job "
Already has one.
Wed Aug 17, 2022 6:52 am

Lucky
76 Sprint V, 63 GL, 62 VBB, 05 Stella, 66 Smallstate, 08 Stella (for now)
Joined: 16 Jun 2011
Posts: 6498
Location: Nashville
 
Lucky
76 Sprint V, 63 GL, 62 VBB, 05 Stella, 66 Smallstate, 08 Stella (for now)
Joined: 16 Jun 2011
Posts: 6498
Location: Nashville
Wed Aug 17, 2022 6:52 am linkquote
It's one of those rare prototype handlebar models with both the legshield glovebox AND the P rear brake.

And it needs a paint job because not even the paint wants to be seen on it.
Wed Aug 17, 2022 7:06 am

Molto Verboso
'64 Motovespa 150S (177) , '66 Allstate SF, '65 VBB, '66 180SS
Joined: 27 Mar 2013
Posts: 1417
Location: S.Salem, NY
 
Molto Verboso
'64 Motovespa 150S (177) , '66 Allstate SF, '65 VBB, '66 180SS
Joined: 27 Mar 2013
Posts: 1417
Location: S.Salem, NY
Wed Aug 17, 2022 7:06 am linkquote
I know it can't be a 1960 because they didn't start adding all those features and upgrades until many years later.
Wed Aug 17, 2022 7:33 am

Molto Verboso
Joined: 14 Oct 2016
Posts: 1157
Location: northern New York
 
Molto Verboso
Joined: 14 Oct 2016
Posts: 1157
Location: northern New York
Wed Aug 17, 2022 7:33 am linkquote
People are still buying them, so they must not see what we see. I still don't spot many of the things that are just wrong for a given year/model. Still, shiny paint on anything would be suspect for me. They are sure good with paint, at least from what I can see from photos. I bet up close you would spot missing seems and obvious places where lots of filler was used.
Wed Aug 17, 2022 7:58 am

Molto Verboso
'64 Motovespa 150S (177) , '66 Allstate SF, '65 VBB, '66 180SS
Joined: 27 Mar 2013
Posts: 1417
Location: S.Salem, NY
 
Molto Verboso
'64 Motovespa 150S (177) , '66 Allstate SF, '65 VBB, '66 180SS
Joined: 27 Mar 2013
Posts: 1417
Location: S.Salem, NY
Wed Aug 17, 2022 7:58 am linkquote
Yes, they can lay on the paint. It's what they are laying it on that's so disturbing. I happen to have a prime example in my shop at the moment and it is kind of fun finding all the features we have heard about. Every one who has seen it has been smitten by the shiny paint and all the flash.
Wed Aug 17, 2022 8:13 am

Molto Verboso
1958 Allstate 177VMC, 2005 70cc Yamaha Vino
Joined: 23 Aug 2020
Posts: 1098
Location: Philadelphia
 
Molto Verboso
1958 Allstate 177VMC, 2005 70cc Yamaha Vino
Joined: 23 Aug 2020
Posts: 1098
Location: Philadelphia
Wed Aug 17, 2022 8:13 am linkquote
orwell84 wrote:
People are still buying them, so they must not see what we see. I still don't spot many of the things that are just wrong for a given year/model. Still, shiny paint on anything would be suspect for me. They are sure good with paint, at least from what I can see from photos. I bet up close you would spot missing seems and obvious places where lots of filler was used.
To the uninformed they look great. When I started on my quest to find a old bike I found all the sites that sell the "restored" bikes. It wasn't until I found this site that I learned what they were all about. Glad I did, however I like the beat up bikes so I'd never have bought one. Looking at them and not knowing what's up though. They look okay. I'm anti two tone paint jobs too so that turned me off them pretty quickly.
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