Wed Aug 17, 2022 8:27 am

Molto Verboso
'64 Motovespa 150S (177) , '66 Allstate SF, '65 VBB, '66 180SS
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Molto Verboso
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Wed Aug 17, 2022 8:27 am linkquote
https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/794629231537520/

A true barn find at a bargain price.
Wed Aug 17, 2022 8:32 am

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P208, Stella VMC Stelvio 187, Stella 150, VNX1T, V9A1T, V9B1T, 02 Sportster XLH1208
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Wed Aug 17, 2022 8:32 am linkquote
Moto64 wrote:
https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/794629231537520/

A true barn find at a bargain price.
Do people seriously like two tone? Cause there sure as shit is a lot of this butt ugly crap out in the world.



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Wed Aug 17, 2022 8:33 am

Lucky
76 Sprint V, 63 GL, 62 VBB, 05 Stella, 66 Smallstate, 08 Stella (for now)
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Wed Aug 17, 2022 8:33 am linkquote
orwell84 wrote:
I bet up close you would spot missing seams and obvious places where lots of filler was used.
That assumes that you know enough to know where there *should* be seams along with all the other telltales, like a P brake pedal where it should be on a peg, etc.
Wed Aug 17, 2022 12:49 pm

Molto Verboso
1958 Allstate 177VMC, 2005 70cc Yamaha Vino
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Molto Verboso
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Wed Aug 17, 2022 12:49 pm linkquote
swiss1939 wrote:
Do people seriously like two tone? Cause there sure as shit is a lot of this butt ugly crap out in the world.


Yes. Yes they do.
Wed Aug 17, 2022 12:51 pm

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Wed Aug 17, 2022 12:51 pm linkquote
There is always the exception to every rule

I really dislike two-tone scoots.
Wed Aug 17, 2022 1:46 pm

Sergeant at Arms
Weird 80's Vespas & Cool Vintage Lambrettas
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Location: The state of insanity, SoCal
 
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Weird 80's Vespas & Cool Vintage Lambrettas
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Location: The state of insanity, SoCal
Wed Aug 17, 2022 1:46 pm linkquote
orwell84 wrote:
People are still buying them, so they must not see what we see. I still don't spot many of the things that are just wrong for a given year/model. Still, shiny paint on anything would be suspect for me. They are sure good with paint, at least from what I can see from photos. I bet up close you would spot missing seems and obvious places where lots of filler was used.
their paint motto is kinda like that shitty diner in town: the food's not real great, but they give you a lot of it.

they look good because it's mostly photos, up close you can see how crap everything is. just bondo layers and slathered in thick heavy coats of paint that crack off.

people see them and just go: ohhh! shiny! pretty! and throw down a few grand without knowing jack shit.

and the best part is these are the same people that would stab somebody to save $25 on a 72" television at black Friday sale after waiting hours in the cold and dark for the store to open.
Wed Aug 17, 2022 1:58 pm

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2007 Stella 225
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Location: Rochester, Minnesota
 
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2007 Stella 225
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Wed Aug 17, 2022 1:58 pm linkquote
orwell84 wrote:
People are still buying them, so they must not see what we see. I still don't spot many of the things that are just wrong for a given year/model. Still, shiny paint on anything would be suspect for me. They are sure good with paint, at least from what I can see from photos. I bet up close you would spot missing seems and obvious places where lots of filler was used.
Handlebar scooters stopped around 1958, and didn't have a glove box on leg shield. Also brake pedal setup is what's on my 2007 Stella.

May not be a bodge, could be perfectly sound and person liked the looks of a handle bar bike and built one. You can get a conversion setup from SIP.
Wed Aug 17, 2022 2:09 pm

Sergeant at Arms
Weird 80's Vespas & Cool Vintage Lambrettas
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Wed Aug 17, 2022 2:09 pm linkquote
Moto64 wrote:
https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/794629231537520/

A true barn find at a bargain price.
anytime I see a "garage" decked out with all the appurtenances such as this all I can think is that person is a gargantuan poser.

that room + Bentley in the driveway + nose of what I assume is a 308 Ferrari + that ad copy

(does math in head)

I paid way to much for this, now I found out it's a piece of shit and I'm over it and trying to squeeze every last dime out and get my money back while trying to save face after bragging about what an amazing bike it is and being exposed.

at least it's in 4th gear and ready to roll!
Wed Aug 17, 2022 2:17 pm

Sergeant at Arms
Weird 80's Vespas & Cool Vintage Lambrettas
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Wed Aug 17, 2022 2:17 pm linkquote
Christopher_55934 wrote:
Handlebar scooters stopped around 1958, and didn't have a glove box on leg shield. Also brake pedal setup is what's on my 2007 Stella.

May not be a bodge, could be perfectly sound and person liked the looks of a handle bar bike and built one. You can get a conversion setup from SIP.
they've been putting P floorboard & brake set ups on bodges for at least 10 years-- [redacted] (rhymes with sploot R us) was one of the first to market big batches of them here.

but this is 100% bodge- that metallic cable sheathing I've only seen on handle bar bodges, key on the glovebox, SS floor, leg shield trim and that front rack. the tank cap is a give away in that it's a twist style instead of a flap top.

I don't dispute that SIP does sell some of that stuff, and some people do like that look. and those people are sick in the head. but on this one, it's bodgetastic.
Wed Aug 17, 2022 3:48 pm

Molto Verboso
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Location: Los Angeles
 
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Wed Aug 17, 2022 3:48 pm linkquote
greasy125 wrote:
anytime I see a "garage" decked out with all the appurtenances such as this all I can think is that person is a gargantuan poser.

that room + Bentley in the driveway + nose of what I assume is a 308 Ferrari + that ad copy

(does math in head)

I paid way to much for this, now I found out it's a piece of shit and I'm over it and trying to squeeze every last dime out and get my money back while trying to save face after bragging about what an amazing bike it is and being exposed.

at least it's in 4th gear and ready to roll!
That is one scary listing.

Does it come with that Haynes manual?
No signs of grease on it, so it'll pair well with that ornament.

A real bike doesn't need a sales pitch, for any Vespa-curious out there.
Wed Aug 17, 2022 4:22 pm

Addicted
Vespa GTV 250ie
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Location: Louisville, KY
 
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Wed Aug 17, 2022 4:22 pm linkquote
Hopefully a proper contribution. This one on Facebook messenger in Indiana. Supposedly a 1968 150.

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/740776806999807/

Armed with my new Technica books:

-Completely wrong cowls more like an early 60s 150

-Earlier (1950s?) horncast

-Late 50s headset with a telltail light

-No idea where that tail light came from

- shouldn't there be fasteners on rear of the leg shields above the center floor mat?

- floor mat wrong

- legshield trim look super thick

- really shiny paint for an "older restoration"

- why in 300 miles ridden

- should have flat rear fender license plate area

Did I miss something or am I completely wrong?







Wed Aug 17, 2022 4:27 pm

Sergeant at Arms
Weird 80's Vespas & Cool Vintage Lambrettas
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Wed Aug 17, 2022 4:27 pm linkquote
Ray8 wrote:
A real bike doesn't need a sales pitch, for any Vespa-curious out there.
^^^

this. exactly this. any time copy starts reading: this beautiful... vespa means wasp... made in Italy... iconic classic... or lists any history lesson; you know it's bullshit.

like if I was going to sell my T5:

1987 T5, original paint Italian market bike, non injected. malossi 172 with MMW head, SIP crank, new 26G carb with BGM fast flow V2 tap, JL stainless LH pipe. motor freshened up XXX miles ago with German/japanese bearings, MB viton seals, BGM super strong with uprated springs and fresh plates. AC electrical, freshly rewired stator all lighting works properly. Newer S1's with BGM tubes and SIP brakes. Bitubo front and rear. Rust in pictures is only minor surface and has been treated and sealed. Tagged, titled and ready to go. more pictures upon request. $X,XXX

a listing along those lines is beneficial to both parties. if you're a buyer and in the know, then you know what's up here. this is a niche market bike, so that's how it's listed. if you don't know anything or a tire kicker, you're just gonna cruise right on by. as a seller, if somebody read that and contacted you, then they know what's up and they're more than likely not a nickel dick time waster.
Wed Aug 17, 2022 4:46 pm

Style Maven
'74 50s x3 '78 P200 E '84 Cosa '91 PK50XL2 '58 AllState '68 Sprint '80 50special and a '66(?) Super125
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Wed Aug 17, 2022 4:46 pm linkquote
Hear, hear!

Two current local examples of both ways:
Quote:
Beautiful 1962 classic Allstate Vespa 125
...There are minor scratch marks, but no major dents on the body. The head lamp cover does have a moderate size dent (which could be replaced with after-market parts). All electricals are functioning. Maximum speed is 45 mph but riding is most comfortable up to 40 mph. All parts are original as far as I know. Odometer reads 4349 original miles. There's no rust because she has been kept inside most of her life. She also comes with vintage license plate, which means there's no fee for registration. An original owner's manual will be included as well. Like most classic Vepsa, she does take 7-10 kicks to get started. Carburetor has been cleaned and tuned recently. Price is firm at $2500. Please contact to come for a test drive. Visit the link below to see a video of her on YouTube.
probably repainted, but otherwise looks original.

https://seattle.craigslist.org/est/mcy/d/sammamish-beautiful-1962-classic/7522324467.html

vs
Quote:
Restored Like-New Vespa VBB Standard 1964, Made in Italy
For lovers of 1960's Italy and the timeless beauty and engineering of Vespa scooters, the Vespa VBB Standard is a collector's model that has been completely restored! Original Vespa with Piaggio engine, restored to fully functional, like-new condition in pink fuchsia with cream leather. This model has been lovingly garage-kept with no miles since restoration and import. There is a small patch of paint that has flaked off on the back/inside front fender.
Ugh, and $3400, strong aroma of buyer's remorse.

https://seattle.craigslist.org/see/mcy/d/seattle-restored-like-new-vespa-vbb/7519486832.html
Thu Aug 18, 2022 6:13 am

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1979 P150X, 1983 P200E, 1988 T5, 1995 PX200E, 2011 Yamaha Fazer 600 S2
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Thu Aug 18, 2022 6:13 am linkquote
Silver one has a roundtail so it's probably Indo, Indian or Pakistani. Definitely better than a nammer but still lots of wrongs on it…
Thu Aug 18, 2022 8:58 am

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Thu Aug 18, 2022 8:58 am linkquote
SaFiS wrote:
Silver one has a roundtail so it's probably Indo, Indian or Pakistani. Definitely better than a nammer but still lots of wrongs on it…
Would be fitting for an India bike to be sold in Indiana.
Thu Aug 25, 2022 12:23 pm

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1980 P125X US Spec
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Location: Beaver Lake, Nebraska USA
 
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1980 P125X US Spec
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Thu Aug 25, 2022 12:23 pm linkquote
Howdy All,

Here is my first contribution to Bodge Spotting. Found this on the Omaha, NE craigslist site.



Does it qualify as a Bodge?

https://kansascity.craigslist.org/mcy/d/eudora-1965-vespa-piaggio/7524223485.html
Thu Aug 25, 2022 12:29 pm

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Thu Aug 25, 2022 12:29 pm linkquote
Hec In Omaha wrote:
Howdy All,

Here is my first contribution to Bodge Spotting. Found this on the Omaha, NE craigslist site.



Does it qualify as a Bodge?

https://kansascity.craigslist.org/mcy/d/eudora-1965-vespa-piaggio/7524223485.html
That's bodgerrific! They must have spent DAYS getting the pitted and rusty chrome to shine.
Thu Aug 25, 2022 12:42 pm

Hooked
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Thu Aug 25, 2022 12:42 pm linkquote
"I believe it is a 250cc."

Translated to NSM:

"I know nothing about these things"
Thu Aug 25, 2022 6:08 pm

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86 T5, 63 GL, 65 Allstate
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Thu Aug 25, 2022 6:08 pm linkquote
I'm surprised it has 700 kilometers on it, and the owner swapped out the "original"seat. So he put a few miles on it….and he's asking $5000 for it. Here's hoping nobody buys it.
Thu Aug 25, 2022 7:02 pm

Lucky
76 Sprint V, 63 GL, 62 VBB, 05 Stella, 66 Smallstate, 08 Stella (for now)
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Thu Aug 25, 2022 7:02 pm linkquote
Hec In Omaha wrote:
Howdy All,

Here is my first contribution to Bodge Spotting. Found this on the Omaha, NE craigslist site.



Does it qualify as a Bodge?

https://kansascity.craigslist.org/mcy/d/eudora-1965-vespa-piaggio/7524223485.html
It even has yellow boots!

...but no fuel tap lever...
Fri Aug 26, 2022 2:57 am

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2007 Stella 225
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Location: Rochester, Minnesota
 
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Fri Aug 26, 2022 2:57 am linkquote
chandlerman wrote:
It even has yellow boots!

...but no fuel tap lever...
Those are some nasty yellow boots, I had to look three times to even pick them out.
Fri Aug 26, 2022 9:50 am

Hooked
1979 P200, 1960 Lambretta s2, 1975 Rally 200
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Location: San Francisco Bay Area
 
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Fri Aug 26, 2022 9:50 am linkquote
they look like clear boots that have turned yellow with time and too many cigarettes!
Bodges are like the email spam of the scooter world
Tue Aug 30, 2022 4:21 am

Hooked
'66 Sears Cruisaire Smallframe
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Location: York, PA
 
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Tue Aug 30, 2022 4:21 am linkquote
The original scooter is trying to break through its Bondo shell in a few places here.

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/612101513858830/





Tue Aug 30, 2022 6:30 am

Molto Verboso
'64 Motovespa 150S (177) , '66 Allstate SF, '65 VBB, '66 180SS
Joined: 27 Mar 2013
Posts: 1417
Location: S.Salem, NY
 
Molto Verboso
'64 Motovespa 150S (177) , '66 Allstate SF, '65 VBB, '66 180SS
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Posts: 1417
Location: S.Salem, NY
Tue Aug 30, 2022 6:30 am linkquote
" This model has been lovingly garage-kept with no miles since restoration and import. There is a small patch of paint that has flaked off on the back/inside front fender."

Flaked right off the pitted, rusty metal just sitting in the garage. I imagine the entire surface of this bike is the same under the paint.



Tue Aug 30, 2022 11:44 am

Style Maven
'74 50s x3 '78 P200 E '84 Cosa '91 PK50XL2 '58 AllState '68 Sprint '80 50special and a '66(?) Super125
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Tue Aug 30, 2022 11:44 am linkquote
r_fostoria wrote:
The original scooter is trying to break through its Bondo shell in a few places here.

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/612101513858830/
OK, so the paint and bodywork is a bit rough, but it DOES come with the very desirable updated footbrake and glovebox upgrades plus easy to clean all aluminum floor trim!


Why do so many of these convert the brake pedal? It seems like it would be a lot more work than fixing the original.



Wed Aug 31, 2022 6:58 am

Molto Verboso
1958 Allstate 177VMC, 2005 70cc Yamaha Vino
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Location: Philadelphia
 
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Wed Aug 31, 2022 6:58 am linkquote
V oodoo wrote:
OK, so the paint and bodywork is a bit rough, but it DOES come with the very desirable updated footbrake and glovebox upgrades plus easy to clean all aluminum floor trim!


Why do so many of these convert the brake pedal? It seems like it would be a lot more work than fixing the original.
My guess is a stuck pin. And it's quicker to just cut the whole peg off rather than fiddling with that! I'd imagine. Not that I know anything about cutting off a foot pedal because the damn pin would not come out under any circumstances. Heat. Penetrating oil. Coca Cola etc etc. ended up just cutting the dang thing off. But I had a spare pedal so it wasn't much of a maniac thing to do…
Fri Sep 02, 2022 1:29 pm

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2005 et4
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Location: oshawa ontario canada
 
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Fri Sep 02, 2022 1:29 pm linkquote
[img][/img]

Saw on FB that an acquaintance bought this? Did he join the list of bodge-buyers?



Fri Sep 02, 2022 2:26 pm

Addicted
86 T5, 63 GL, 65 Allstate
Joined: 30 Oct 2014
Posts: 720
Location: Oak Brook, Illinois
 
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86 T5, 63 GL, 65 Allstate
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Location: Oak Brook, Illinois
Fri Sep 02, 2022 2:26 pm linkquote
duane1 wrote:
[img][/img]

Saw on FB that an acquaintance bought this? Did he join the list of bodge-buyers?
That looks like a GL to me, not too many of those became bodges, it does have the slick two tone paint job, but other than that it looks legit to me.
Wed Sep 21, 2022 1:37 pm

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1964 Piaggio Allstate Cruisaire
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Location: York, PA
 
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1964 Piaggio Allstate Cruisaire
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Wed Sep 21, 2022 1:37 pm linkquote
At least the seller is honest about it.

"I bought this scooter from a gentleman many years ago & was told that this scooter...... " Read: "I got burned the same way the PO got burned and now I want to pass the burn along!"

https://www.ebay.com/itm/155169361696?hash=item2420d08f20:g:lqsAAOSwoXZjJ9CU&amdata=enc%3AAQAHAAAAkDp1cyRlYcYtFRFheg4pia2%2FVb9jf%2FZT%2Bv9XL4L9TDy4enhXoEmkb5fxyCDpxZU3mB1BPqLZ%2FWExpLxOjaRxUm6yvoITeMPNa4xENn2xvKCkgGJfSxuo1EdfvQfXwVcZmYlY%2BN3zbDvKfdpbaX8VnM1xunuGd8yI%2BX149Od%2FA5CZWdlt39ZX8TjNKYDG1XTT1A%3D%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR8iLr5_sYA
Wed Sep 21, 2022 1:59 pm

Lucky
76 Sprint V, 63 GL, 62 VBB, 05 Stella, 66 Smallstate, 08 Stella (for now)
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Location: Nashville
 
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Wed Sep 21, 2022 1:59 pm linkquote
garncarz wrote:
At least the seller is honest about it.

"I bought this scooter from a gentleman many years ago & was told that this scooter...... " Read: "I got burned the same way the PO got burned and now I want to pass the burn along!"

https://www.ebay.com/itm/155169361696?hash=item2420d08f20:g:lqsAAOSwoXZjJ9CU&amdata=enc%3AAQAHAAAAkDp1cyRlYcYtFRFheg4pia2%2FVb9jf%2FZT%2Bv9XL4L9TDy4enhXoEmkb5fxyCDpxZU3mB1BPqLZ%2FWExpLxOjaRxUm6yvoITeMPNa4xENn2xvKCkgGJfSxuo1EdfvQfXwVcZmYlY%2BN3zbDvKfdpbaX8VnM1xunuGd8yI%2BX149Od%2FA5CZWdlt39ZX8TjNKYDG1XTT1A%3D%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR8iLr5_sYA
At least they didn't use electrical whip for the handlebar cables?

That's...a lotto bondo...


This is fine

Wed Sep 21, 2022 2:36 pm

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'58 VBA '79CT90
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Location: Chico CA
 
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Wed Sep 21, 2022 2:36 pm linkquote
" If you are handy with Vespas or looking for a project for a vintage Vespa, this is the one." lol.
Wed Sep 21, 2022 2:43 pm

Sergeant at Arms
Weird 80's Vespas & Cool Vintage Lambrettas
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Location: The state of insanity, SoCal
 
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Weird 80's Vespas & Cool Vintage Lambrettas
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Posts: 11803
Location: The state of insanity, SoCal
Wed Sep 21, 2022 2:43 pm linkquote
chandlerman wrote:
At least they didn't use electrical whip for the handlebar cables?

That's...a lotto bondo...
that's a real typical cable sheath on those "handle bar" type bikes, I've seen it a ton and it sucks every bit as much as you can imagine.
Wed Sep 21, 2022 3:45 pm

Molto Verboso
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Location: Los Angeles
 
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Wed Sep 21, 2022 3:45 pm linkquote
V oodoo wrote:
Why do so many of these convert the brake pedal? It seems like it would be a lot more work than fixing the original.
They didn't convert 'em!
Those are LML frames.
Wed Sep 21, 2022 4:05 pm

Molto Verboso
Scattered remnants of (two!) 1974 Rallys
Joined: 30 Jul 2009
Posts: 1632
Location: San Francisco, CA
 
Molto Verboso
Scattered remnants of (two!) 1974 Rallys
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Posts: 1632
Location: San Francisco, CA
Wed Sep 21, 2022 4:05 pm linkquote
Whoa. This is a 1950s bike. It looks all out of proportion, but maybe it's the 10 inch conversion and later engine.

The legshield1 seems more curvy than it would have been.




What is this seam?

Wed Sep 21, 2022 5:12 pm

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Wed Sep 21, 2022 5:12 pm linkquote
hjo wrote:
Whoa. This is a 1950s bike. It looks all out of proportion, but maybe it's the 10 inch conversion and later engine.

The legshield1 seems more curvy than it would have been.
I don't know what this is. but that engine bolt is in the wrong place. it should be several inches in front of the end of the floorboard.

the leg shield appears to be all the bondo that they used to "shape" it.

motor appears to be super/sprint/vbb variant

front fender is totally wrong.

this *may* have some 50's parts of body left on/grafted on it somewhere but it is nothing that it purports to be.
Wed Sep 21, 2022 5:42 pm

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Wed Sep 21, 2022 5:42 pm linkquote
greasy125 wrote:
this *may* have some 50's parts of body left on/grafted on it somewhere but it is nothing that it purports to be.
It's so bizarre!


They did move the pivot bolt. And added a later style cowl latch. And there's something weird with that tank. And threw a choke wherever.


The legshield is so wrong. The wide body ones were either super flat, or super curvy on the GS. This looks like a large frame one welded on? Or just beat into a weird shape.

Wed Sep 21, 2022 5:57 pm

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Wed Sep 21, 2022 5:57 pm linkquote
the Allstate that's sitting here has that same seam around the frame horn, but obviously the motor bolt and cowl latch are what they're supposed to be not *waves hands* whatever that is supposed to be.

this thing is all hopes, dreams and paper mâché

a stinking turd inside of a dumpster fire.
Wed Sep 21, 2022 10:57 pm

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Wed Sep 21, 2022 10:57 pm linkquote
Award winning bodge it is
Thu Sep 22, 2022 3:59 am

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Thu Sep 22, 2022 3:59 am linkquote
Yes it is and at the time of this post, it has 13 bids by 7 bidders and is at $1,575!😳

Hec
Thu Sep 22, 2022 8:22 am

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Thu Sep 22, 2022 8:22 am linkquote
well this popped up! seems bodgy and the description is funny "These scooters now are very rare. The excellent original condition examples are worth up to $10,000 now. " and the color!
https://sfbay.craigslist.org/pen/mcy/7536336937.html
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