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I also have some questions about how all those new motors turned into a bunch of completely clapped out old parts during the assembly process, but whatev's.
But it did seem like more used parts than new in the final assembly.
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chandlerman wrote: I also have some questions about how all those new motors turned into a bunch of completely clapped out old parts during the assembly process, but whatev's. But it did seem like more used parts than new in the final assembly. |
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jess wrote: Some were new (or new-ish) and some were old. I was kind of mentally sorting the engines as he laid them out on the table in the intro. But it did seem like more used parts than new in the final assembly.
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sdjohn wrote: at least they weren't vespa engines! Or probably just more infuriating. |
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Before you judge, this is a 1967 Euro model.
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jape wrote: Before you judge, this is a 1967 Euro model. Soooo....like complete shit. My paint work has less orange peel than that thing. It's not even a good bodge. Sweet PX center mat, though. |
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chandlerman wrote: "Runs as good as it looks." Soooo....like complete shit. My paint work has less orange peel than that thing. It's not even a good bodge. Sweet PX center mat, though. |
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I knew a guy in SF who had a black and red bodge. He tried to sell it to me when I was first getting interested in Vespas. Luckily someone else saw the photos and warned me away from it.
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jess wrote: "All [the] original paint [is gone] and [the] seats [don't match the respray]".
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If the RED seats were replaced with a BLACK bench remove the back-rest-rack it would look much easier on my eyes. Also get rid of the spare entirely or the vinyl cover at a minimum it's still a bodge.
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autojack wrote: I knew a guy in SF who had a black and red bodge. He tried to sell it to me to wit CM wrote: You need better friends. |
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I was going to say, at least that one is only one color. But then I took a closer look. Cream on cream? Ugh. It checks all the other boxes too.
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autojack wrote: It checks all the other boxes too. * Two-tone paint * Over the top legshield and fender trim * Oddball color matching seats and spare cover * Chromed floor strips What else did I miss? |
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DaleB wrote: School me on this. Purely out of curiosity. What I see is: * Two-tone paint * Over the top legshield and fender trim * Oddball color matching seats and spare cover * Chromed floor strips What else did I miss? Cowls (the ones on there aren't from a VBB, if this is supposed to be a VBB that is…) Floor rails from a handlebar model Ignition above the choke Wrong horn cast for a VBB (again assuming it's supposed to be a VBB) |
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DaleB wrote: School me on this. Purely out of curiosity. What I see is: * Two-tone paint * Over the top legshield and fender trim * Oddball color matching seats and spare cover * Chromed floor strips What else did I miss? ![]() ![]() ![]() * That bike started life as a (some) Super(s), not a VBB (150) * Dual gloveboxes (Other than the Bajaj, this is a HUGE tell) * Cowl protector bolted to the cowl * Cheap, protruding locks * Chrome neck cap * VBA-style (just chrome, no rubber) floor rails * Ignition key by bag/helmet hook * Badly stitched addle Seats (matching spare cover for bonus points) * I'm not sure what's up with that horn * The seam between the upper and lower horncast looks like it's carved out of bondo * Lack of a photo of the motor and that's just from those few small-ish pictures. |
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You forgot the 10 pounds of Bondo on it, but I guess you can't see that under all the shiny paint.
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I have to say that, having worked on one of these things, aside from everything underneath it, they do a nice job with the paint.
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Moto64 wrote: I have to say that, having worked on one of these things, aside from everything underneath it, they do a nice job with the paint.
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Thanks for the additional detail. I have to admit -- I really know next to nothing about anything Piaggio made after about 1955. I love mine, because it's been in the family since new and after all this time (like, since the 60s) I finally have it. I like the look of the late 50s/60s Vespas, but I haven't taken the time to get intimately familiar with anything newer because -- well, they are vanishingly rare around here anyway. I think I've seen two other pre-2000 Vespas in this area in my entire life. I suspect this one may be the only one we ever own.
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When is a bodge worth it?
When it's GOLD... PURE GOLD (painted lead)... Overall, not terrible, still on 8", managed to travel 6km... Complete with a PRICELESS Spare Wheel Cover Apologies for screenshots, but I'm guessing it will be removed soon... ![]() Nicely described.
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(Ohh, and seller may be female)
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Not a bodge per se, but the description fits bodgeness. The guy says there is an electric start button "1980 Vespa P200E with 1990 PX200E electric start motor, push button start working!" The pics just look like a normal p200....is there a magic button I am not seeing?
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If you look close you can see it under the right side switch. Same spot that they would go on a stock PX
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Steely Dan wrote: If you look close you can see it under the right side switch. Same spot that they would go on a stock PX
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Grumpnut wrote: Are those marzlevanes French or Belgian? Sounds expensive.
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chandlerman wrote: If it's not from the Marzle region of Belgium, it's not real Marzlevane, it's just sparkling vane. ![]() ![]() |
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chandlerman wrote: If it's not from the Marzle region of Belgium, it's not real Marzlevane, it's just sparkling vane.
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She says no title or history but that it does run..... That added trim around the top of the fuel tank.
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