Modern Vespa

Looks like it just got out of Jail. That is aweful

www.donedeal.ie/for-sale/motorbikes/2203519 its fucking thick with them over here

"no miles" hmmm are they trying to tell you you won't get far?

Hey, here is some weird stuff I saw in Singapore last week.

Looks like PX frames w/crazy mods. Questionable as they may be, I might put these more in the 'custom' category since they're not being flogged endlessly to unsuspecting consumers (as far as I know). Just including them here for interest and general weirdness spotting... I never got a chance to talk to any riders, although there are a heckofa lot of 2-strokes of all types in Singapore. Maybe someone local will stop by to give us the lowdown on this particular phenom...

Somehow they have managed to make a PX even uglier

i like them both ... the blue one looks like the leggys have been piecut might just be the angle .... n that brown one is a propper bitza love it

wasnt this trhread a sticky??

http://www.donedeal.ie/for-sale/motorbikes/2218979

Fucking hell. Someone is making a fortune getting these shitheaps into Ireland.

That's ummm interesting...

Possible Bodgejob? Wut woah!

My first attempt at posting, so don't chew me out if I'm wrong:



http://sandiego.craigslist.org/csd/mcy/2432969913.html

sure is.

This is a bodge that belongs to a friend of a friend. Its latest of many issues, broken shifter. It also has some suspect rust concentrated around the welds on the floorboard where its welded to the tunnel.

Never occured to me before

Why do you see on these b.o.d.g.e sites and ebay 'ACMA styled' vespa's ?

Why not Struzzo styled ? Why french Vespa's ?

my guess there is a lot of cultural crossover between France and SE asia. I grew up in the Netherlands, and there was a ton of Indonesian immigrants there, and there were a lot dutch people living in indo.

just a guess it's the same way with france and vietnam? come to think of it, i've been to several restaurants specializing in Cambodian/French food.

the French had all of SE Asia as a colony for many years. altho the people hated the ruling french they loved some of their things - ie Vespas (which the French brought over to travel around on) as there werent really roads to speak of a Vespa was the cadillac of the day in SE Asia.
still today there are baguette shops and patisseries everywhere as well they roast their coffee in a French style too. you even will see old men wearing the small french style cap alot and much of the old architecture is colonial french.

answer enuf for you?

cheers~

Vietnam esp. was a french colony - The vietnam 'war' between as the US knows it started as Vietnam declared independence from France - part of this independence included the rise of the communist party in Vietnam - thus once France was pretty much ousted, France left in a haste and didn't really see a point in fighting - The USA on the other hand went in and well we know the rest from there...

From the Ad:
1966 Black Vintage Vespa
- Completely restored
- Come with a matching helmet, two sets of keys, and a cover.
- Features: kick start, secure lock, storage comparment.
Must see and test drive, serious buyer only!!!

Why I'm questioning it: I can't find a 1966 on the scooterlounge guide that has a fender light....
Would appreciate your help! The asking price is $2895
I'm new to scootering, my husband loves motorcycles and I'm trying to get involved by getting a scooter so I can join him once in a while

Thank you!

COMPLETE BODGE from vietnam.
stay away ~ you have been duly warned~

Wow that was QUICK!
Thanks for the help, guess finding a scoot will be more work than I thought!

Just keep asking us, we'll let you know if its suspect!

heres one in Ohio that might be ok ~ you could call the scooter shop and ask about it.

http://detroit.craigslist.org/okl/mcy/2390415226.html

and this with oil injection is nice and simple for a 1st scoot~
http://detroit.craigslist.org/mcb/mcy/2373709243.html

maybe see what ppl think about them ..?

I've been interested in getting an older vespa or one of the new stella 4t for a little while now. Originally I was thinking a p200 but I found this a 72 VBC... I'm new to vespa, so I don't know much about vbc's and they're reliability. I actually believe the seller posted it on modern vespa almost a year ago so I'm assuming this legit but I know absolutely nothing about identifying any fakes.

Any info would be awesome!! Thanks!

Here's some photos:

I would be suspect, white rubbers, incorrect headset, 10" wheels, two tone paint, keys hanging from carry hook, trim around fuel tank and cowl door , rear mudflap.

Yeah, after reading through more of the forum, I think this guy has been flagged on here before. He's got a CL ad and an eBay ad running for the same bike. The CL ad says

"I am selling a beautiful Purple/White 1972 Vespa VBC which has been completely restored. The bike is in great condition. All functions are working. Many of the parts are bright new. The engine runs very nice an it also shifts gear very smoothly. I purchased this bike a while back, spend time to restore her and now i want to sell her. California title.

Its the perfect weather to drive this beauty around.
$2599. Serious buyers only please.
Call or email me if you want to come see the bike, make a test drive or if you want to see more pictures.

408-8937736
Thanks for looking!"


This whole forum makes me so nervous about buying anything used! I'll probably just go with a new Stella 4t... Unless it's safer to buy an older Vespa from a dealer? A reputable shop here in sac has one from the 60's that doesn't look anything like these bad bikes.

-Jess

If you're unsure of what you're getting into and don't have any friends to come look t scoots and steer you right, buying from a reputable dealer might be the way to go.

The Stella 4T is great but you're paying for a new scooter. If you want a cheaper, older scoot, look for later Ps and PXs, which aren't bodged nearly as often as Supers, VB's and some others.

You're still going to getting a used scoot from an individual with all the history, uncertainty and potential issues. That might be a good thing if that's what you're hoping to get into!

if you live in California you can easily find a good used vintage. you just need to continue the search. i mean come on! somebody help this guy!

edit: Deal O' The Day

http://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/mcy/2464121952.html

Thank you Steelcap for helping a newbie to the Vespa community to understand the "B" word means hemorrhoid...that first link really amazed me...5 piece(d) together "unit body Vespa frame" covered up by bondo and paint was indeed scary to say the least!

http://www.thevespawizard.com.au/the_black_vbb.htm

I see ads for these all the time, but they only really bother me when they lie.

http://losangeles.craigslist.org/sgv/mcy/2468087450.html

Well what that probably is Guy #2 is selling his scooter....he bought it from Guy #1 in the states who sold it to him because he found out it was a roid so Guy #1 said "i'm going to lie...." and then guy #2 gets screwed.

there was one on CL in RI a couple months ago - Guy didn't know it had 'roid rage he didn't buy it off ebay, but some other guy for 3k out of the paper....he was told "it was restored by a reputable shop, but never got the name, and just ASSUMED it was the shop in town" I sent him the links on to how to 'identify' some bodge including this link and he replied "thanks, I'm going to take it off CL and just sell it as scrap"

the guy was heart broken...it was sad

It's a small world after all. Oklahoma? Heck, I'm becoming a little sheepish about wearing some of my Hawaiian shirts in public.

http://motors.shop.ebay.com/saigonimports1/m.html?_trksid=p4340.l2562

At least they are honest though, sellers name is the giveaway

Hello everybody!

Another Vespa noob is asking whether or not a scooter has any tell-tale signs of bodgulism! Dosen't have any of the incriminating two-tone paint or yellow feet, but i still think a more trained eye should take a look. The pics aren't of great quality, but hey.

http://annarbor.craigslist.org/mcy/2467097284.html

thanks!

Its a Px125 with a 177 top end. Not a bodge, and the p-series haven't really been "restored and imported" from Vietnam.

OK cool. I don't know much about this stuff yet, but like many others, i'm scared of bodges enough to be suspicious of just about everything. XD

I believe that the tractor style tail light is a dead giveaway that it is an American market bike. Some models are prone to bodgity and a P isn't among them.

Found this thread and wanted to join in the fun.

http://minneapolis.craigslist.org/dak/mcy/2416955981.html

1967 PIAGGIO VESPA VBC SCOOTER 150cc / 4 Speeds / 12 Volt Battery & Electrical System-
This is a very nicely rebuilt vintage scooter !
This scooter has been totally rebuilt, repainted, and reupholstered. We have less than 100 miles on it !
Perfect ideal transportation for local commute or cruise to the beach, ( about 80 mpg )
Drive this classic scooter from the 60s and have the comfort and reliability of a new one.

Joe 651-238-7151



I may be wrong (and correct me if I am), but the year, the trapezoid headlamp, the "12 Volt Battery & Electrical System," the bling, the low mileage and the white seats are kinda telling me...



By the way, for those who are wanting to buy a vintage Vespa but are unsure of what to look for, I suggest looking up "Vespa: Style In Motion" by Davide Mazzanti. It's loaded with detailed info and photographs on Vespas from 1946-2003 as well as Piaggio history. Every once in a while I'd check it out from my library, then pester the librarian to buy it from them. No luck yet. Still, a great read, and worth having out when looking at a vintage scoot in person and debating on whether it's legit or a bodge.

Here's some info about the book on Amazon:
http://www.amazon.com/Vespa-Davide-Mazzanti/dp/0811842487

To sell such an ugly bodge is bad enough but to claim it has some military history is pushing the limit!

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Vespa-Sprint-150-Vietnam-War-Era-Camouflage-Scooter-/250848052762?pt=AU_Motorcycles&hash=item3a67b5861a#ht_500wt_1156

Thats an awful looking yoke altogether

3 speed Sprint Interesting

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