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This one for sale in Bangkok, a stones throw from where they are being made. Everything is wrong, it's had a full make over but the speedo is missing and it needs 'tuning'.

Seller is asking 130,000 baht (over $4000)

http://bangkok.craigslist.co.th/mcy/3094830690.html
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Doesn't appear to be a bodge just bad interpretation of restoration.

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barking mad wrote:
Doesn't appear to be a bodge just bad interpretation of restoration.

Cheers
I donno... for some reason it seems like it might have been a nammer partially de-bodgedified... There are holes where a back tire rack might have been, the bottom holes for the license plate are filled in, the seams seem kind of bondo'd over... cheap parts... it seems like it to me.
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That super is not a bodge. It's an american market oil injected super that had turn signals and no holes for the license plate because the plate would have attached to the taillight assembly.
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i love it! its clearly an american resto.

the hubs are there, the USA turn signal holes, 6volt, etc.

its cool, it may have some long term parts issues, who supplied the bearings, seals etc....but, i would think its worth up to $2k. snag it for that or less.
good luck
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It's like they couldn't quite figure out which model to go with

http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/mcy/3173248280.html
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flyngti wrote:
It's like they couldn't quite figure out which model to go with

http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/mcy/3173248280.html
Was just about to post this one... What a POS
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It's like they couldn't quite figure out which model to go with

http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/mcy/3173248280.html
Hahaha... I agree Laughing emoticon
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It's like they couldn't quite figure out which model to go with

http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/mcy/3173248280.html
That's called "fusion restoration."
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Educate me. Now I know the fender light is wrong for 1967, but what else? I want to learn!
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Educate me. Now I know the fender light is wrong for 1967, but what else? I want to learn!
Not just the light but the fender is wrong, wrong size wheels, trim around the glove box, cheap chrome pieces, not sure whats up with that pipe, wrong stand, wrong badge, guessing wrong motor, ignition in the wrong place, think the handlebars are off a bicycle.
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Daayam... for me it's not even so much that it's all mixed up and Frankenberry (I didn't use scoot on purpose) is that it's just plain ugly... Sorry to whomever's it is (I know there's something wrong with that "english"Razz emoticon)... but that just don't look good.
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Daayam... for me it's not even so much that it's all mixed up and Frankenberry (I didn't use scoot on purpose) is that it's just plain ugly... Sorry to whomever's it is (I know there's something wrong with that "english"Razz emoticon)... but that just don't look good.
Totally agree, whole thing just looks off. Kind of like reverse beer googles, you know something is wrong at a glance but the harder you look the more fucked up it gets.
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I can't wait to know all the differences and be able to pick out the different models right away. I know I will catch on eventually, I can do it with cars like nobody's biz, so it's only a matter of time with the scoots.

I know the typical bodge signs (wings, tons of chrome, two-tone, yellow boots, extra rubber trim) but it's the ones that have period/model incorrect parts that I really want to learn about.
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I JUST found this site. If it has been submitted before, please excuse for re-re-re posting. Thought it would help.


http://www.thevespawizard.com.au/Asian%20Imports.htm
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Orlando craigslist

http://orlando.craigslist.org/mcy/3149868974.html

This is my first attempt at bodge spotting, but I'll say, the winged bange, greay cowling rubber and two tone colors, and painted rims are signs?

I must say, I own a bodge that I've had for six years and assume my self to be very lucky. Either way though, there were some piss poor things done to it.
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panchoboots wrote:
This is my first attempt at bodge spotting,
Your training is complete young bodgeye... sharp instincts have you... seen the true path you have... 2 points for successful 1st attempt!
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and for your viewing pleasure.....
WOW! only $3500. what a deal!

http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/mcy/3140001534.html
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Bodge or no Bodge?

http://atlanta.craigslist.org/sat/mcy/3199466808.html

Not two tone, but! I'm trying hard to focus in on the floor mat. Like I said, I actually own a bodge, and this one has the same floor mat mine did. Same chrome accesories as well. The seller also speaks as if its got a nest of grimlens. If it was a new complete motor, why is it not running? Survey says!
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http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/RESTORED-1962-VESPA-/200805899375?pt=US_motorcycles&hash=item2ec0f6dc6f

I really like the paint... I think someone's going to lured in by this one.
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xantufrog wrote:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/RESTORED-1962-VESPA-/200805899375?pt=US_motorcycles&hash=item2ec0f6dc6f

I really like the paint... I think someone's going to lured in by this one.
BARF.
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Too Late!
Before I was aware of vietbodges I made the error of buying a 150 Super 'Restored to the highest standard' in the UK from a dealer

I won't list all the faults with it as it's almost a thread on it's own but here's a couple of vid clips for you to enjoy:
When I found the problem:
http://youtu.be/GMeIwhCfzNg

I sent it back to the dealer and they sent it back 2 weeks later:
http://youtu.be/lLODB5x-XgM?hd=1

I'm having to buy a PX engine for it but worried about what other crap to find in the frame etc.
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WOW! that suh-hucks! hope you can get a refund. keep us posted on your resolution.
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Did you pull the head, I'd be willing to bet that there's a gasket made of tin can between the head and the cylinder... Man that sucks... good videos though + for those...
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Did you pull the head, I'd be willing to bet that there's a gasket made of tin can between the head and the cylinder... Man that sucks... good videos though + for those...
Yup, stripped it down, no head gasket (thankfully) but the base gasket was double layered and badly fitted, which wasn't the problem, took the barrel & piston off and the crank has a deep recess in the conrod which looks machined, without going into too much detail the crank is running out of line and the flywheel bearing has been chemical welded in place!

Oh and it stated 1965 VBC and stamped on the casings, yet it has 3 ports which appear original (no machining or grinding marks) which I think I'm right in saying it should have 2 ports and 3 ports appeared first in the 70's Veloce?

There's other things which lead me to say the engines scrap and why I'm throwing a PX engine in it, I've seen 150 Super engines on fleabay but I don't trust those now without digging.

Sorry I'm going on, as I said it's almost a thread on it's own.

PS don't laugh at me too much, I already know I was a knobhead for buying it in hindsight.
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Ahh live and learn... doubled up base gasket... just as good Razz emoticon don't sweat this one.. I just saw your other bike...Nice! I'm happy for you on that one!
Cheers.
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Re: Hipster bails on a bodge
Tract Punk wrote:
http://newhaven.craigslist.org/mcy/3201458008.html
Holy crap... I don't know where you get "Hipster" in any of that pile of ucky write up, but that guy is HIGH!!!!!!! Thousands underpriced? Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa Razz emoticon earth to highman... come in highman...
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How can someone rave about a bike that only has 60 miles on it? WTF? I mean I guess he's lucky he only put 60 miles on it since it's a rolling deathtrap but still. Must be that the only people who buy bodges are not knowledgeable anyway, and think they'll just hop on and go and look like Audrey Hepburn, then get scared off by the gears or motorcycle license, and that's it? Or they just never ran.

I mean jeez I've been riding for six weeks and I hit 1000 miles today. It only took me three rides to hit 60 miles. I can do nearly 60 miles in one day now running around doing errands (of course taking the long way Razz emoticon )

Guess you're either converted or you're not, and it's probably hard to become a convert with a quirky bodge.

/rambling
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the thing is, Kitty, doing 60 miles is a long way for one of those things. I bet it took 2-3 repairs just to get that kinda mileage.

60 is average for them to last till the owner sees the money pit for what it is and wants to get out while the getting is good.
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I liked my bodge so much, I bought a Q-Link. Why have just one asian piece of crap.
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I predict that the next major trend in Viet bodges will be artificially well-patinaed VBBs posing as American barn finds. Be afraid, be very afraid!
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I predict that the next major trend in Viet bodges will be artificially well-patinaed VBBs posing as American barn finds. Be afraid, be very afraid!
I swear, I think you're on the right track.. I actually think someone overe there is listening.. some are starting to mellow on the chingaderas, two tone, and matching seats and go simple.... (On the outside that is) sneaky suckers... Don't be fooled.. just cause it doesn't melt in your hands doesn't make it an M&M!............ something like that.
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wait till you see the P-series bodges coming out.
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Re: Hipster bails on a bodge
Vader19 wrote:
Tract Punk wrote:
http://newhaven.craigslist.org/mcy/3201458008.html
I don't know where you get "Hipster"
I dunno... Brooklyn, trendy Vespa, putting 2 and 2 together (with regional biases in play of course).

Side note: Totally agree on the next bodges being faux-patina'd. It's gonna be like relic'd guitars. I can't stand relic'd guitars. Some of them show sooooo much labor, and I wonder, seriously, who's the market for this shit?
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The pictures in the listing are taken in Nam.

I can't believe anyone would fall for it.

I do hate these spineless bastards.

Cheers
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Here's a strange one
As some may recall, this one was stolen last month. Apparently it was recovered and now for sale! http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/mcy/3207612202.html

Not sure why, but I find this whole thing a little odd, especially the description in the CL ad.
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Re: Here's a strange one
flyngti wrote:
I find this whole thing a little odd, especially the description in the CL ad.
Is it the fact that NSM posters predicted it would be thrown in a ditch, and the CL ad says it had been thrown in a ditch?
travisNJ wrote:
2) People like to steal em, joy ride them, and throw em in a ditch.
Good call, TravisNJ!

edit to add: "One dark and stormy night"? I feel like I've heard that somewhere before.

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Re: Here's a strange one
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Is it the fact that NSM posters predicted it would be thrown in a ditch, and the CL ad says it had been thrown in a ditch?
Stranger is that she says it was ditched before it was stolen.
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