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i think we all understand its a bodge now.
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jimh wrote:
The pictures in the listing are taken in Nam.

I can't believe anyone would fall for it.

I do hate these spineless bastards.

Cheers
People have no idea though, they don't research, they see shiny paint and think that means it's all good. I found out about these bodges about seven years ago, I kept seeing this pretty restored old Vespas all over eBay for like $3000, seemed too good to be true. Posted in the motorcycle section of the VW forum I frequent asking why they were so cheap and what should stop me from getting one. I was really only told to stay away, they were unsafe, I left it at that. Wasn't until a couple months ago that it crossed my mind and so I started really looking into them that I got all the gory details.
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VLB = Vietnams Lates Bodge! Ha!
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Peep the bondo on this trainwreck
http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/mcy/3207612202.html
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People should be jailed for peddling these turdish death machines
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macgerk77 wrote:
isnt that the one that was stolen 500bucks reward offerd.. a little while back
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macgerk77 wrote:
isnt that the one that was stolen 500bucks reward offerd.. a little while back
Well I'll be damned if it isn't... Good eye josh.
This one right here Stolen scooter
Theft recovery bodge, looks like we have a new winner
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Laughing emoticon Laughing emoticon Laughing emoticon thats all i have to say



at least he isnt asking 3500 like everyotherbodgesellingbastard here
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macgerk77 wrote:
Hah.

"Gets a lot of looks"
Yeah, I'll bet. For being the brightest stolen bodge bike in all of Seattle.
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I'm new to this game but I think this one is a winner.

http://neworleans.craigslist.org/mcy/3209289858.html[/img]
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yep thats a good one too
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WOW!
I finally get to see one withe the yellow boots! First one for me!
Why yellow though? I mean.... why not red or blue? something that matches one of the tow tones!
They get dirty so quickly... I would have picked a different color. But that's just me and I am Italian....
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ggmax01 wrote:
WOW!
I finally get to see one withe the yellow boots! First one for me!
Why yellow though? I mean.... why not red or blue? something that matches one of the tow tones!
They get dirty so quickly... I would have picked a different color. But that's just me and I am Italian....
At one time there were actually yellow boots and grips available and are now ver rare and expensive....now all bodges seem to get these repop fugly boots.
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A tricky One
Spotted on CL, this Sprint doesn't have any of the hallmarks of a straight bodge, and possesses some known ownership history which is why I am aware of it's "import" status. Apparently, this Sprint is an Indonesian version. While there are some odd additions to the bike, there is no aspect that screams bodge. I'm going with a friend to see it on Monday, she's interested in a vintage scoot. PO to this one rode it for 2 years with no issue. Any thoughts from the community on this?

http://richmond.craigslist.org/mcy/3224968028.html
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Re: A tricky One
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...PO to this one rode it for 2 years with no issue...
The bag-hook makes me nervous, but the "original paint" claim would make me confident that either (a) it's not got bondo or (b) you'll be able to tell within a few seconds if that's original paint. I know bondo is only, like, a tiny fraction of the bodge issue, but with a legit LML engine, it might be a nice ride (if the frame's straight). I can't tell -- are the wheels 8" or 10"? Looks to me like a good scoot that some dude "restored" by adding the easy-add-ons (grips, lights, muffler). Does the speedo work?

Update us when you check it out.
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Didn't end up checking the scoot out with my friend. She decided that if she is to get a scoot in addition to her MC than it needed to have less than questionable pedigree. I'm sure the scoot is nice, but the stars didn't align for her on this one.
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This just went up on scoot.net
http://scoot.net/classifieds/forsale.html?id=38498
Just the fact that he is claiming its not made me look harder. What you tink?
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Re: This just went up on scoot.net
Preson777 wrote:
http://scoot.net/classifieds/forsale.html?id=38498
Just the fact that he is claiming its not made me look harder. What you tink?
Not!
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totally worth it. he has dropped the price twice now. snatch it up if you like it.
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Agre JJ I'd think about that one if i was close.. yeah it's getting more reasonable... I like this bike.
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Re: This just went up on scoot.net
Vader19 wrote:
Preson777 wrote:
http://scoot.net/classifieds/forsale.html?id=38498
Just the fact that he is claiming its not made me look harder. What you tink?
Not!
Dang! Cleanest bike I've ever seen. And sexy as hell. I want.
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just look at the attention to detail around the engine back end by the rear shock. too cool.
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How do you get that smooth curve off the back of the tank to the tail? Is that custom or just that model of Allstate?
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its the model. its a Widebody. the engine literally sticks out the side of the frame.
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The paint job is almost too nice thats what may throw some people. I had that same thing happened when I color sanded a scoot people that didn't know what to look for asked me if it was from overseas.
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Hey, all. New member, first post. I did get a bike from Vietnam (ex pat owned business) 3 months ago and have 300km on it so far, and it runs really good. I used a magnet all over and it sticks well. Any other pointers?
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Ex-Pat owned isn't your ticket to happy trails. Have you heard of Avalon Scooters for example? Some of the ex-pats out here to make a quick buck on re-selling bodges have no idea about scooters and no moral compass.

300km's is too early to be saying anything about the mechanicals. 3000km's and the engine hasn't self destructed might be a good sign. You might have got lucky with the body, Sprints are fairly plentiful here, some good, some horrible.

Take the tank out and have a look for poorly welded plates in and around the rear shock mount. Filler around the cowel bottom edges and hook attachment points. Welded hub links on the front. Look at the carb. If its an original Dellorto its most likely bodged in some way, Spaco Dellorto it will have the wrong jets and you are not going to get away with that for too long. Have a look and post what you have.

Export bodges look bodgey but some people dig that and don't like the original look so no point telling you aesthetically what's wrong with your scoot. You probably ordered it that way because that's what you wanted, it's your money.
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SGN Scott wrote:
Look at the carb. If its an original Dellorto its most likely bodged in some way
What do you mean?
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There is very little preventative maintenance in Vietnam. Nothing gets fixed until its broken. At that point you are at the hands of whichever guy is closest to try and fix it. They get bodged. It'll work after a fashion but not for long. On Lambrettas the carb mouth mill be shimmed up with a tin can after years of slopping about on the manifold. I threw my original Dellorto away, wish I'd kept it now to show you. It had some weird hole drilled in the body that was later filled with lead. God knows why.
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What a durable finish on the headset next to the speedo. Truly skilled.
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Ok, I will, when the tank is closer to being empty, I just filled it. Im not overly mechanically inclined and I will try and figure out where the carburator is. I did have a motorcycle mechanic do a look over and he felt that it was kosher, but I am not sure he knows scooters. There are not that many yespa scooters her where I live, never mind old scooters. So thanks for the advice!
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Plenty of guides on here and elsewhere. If you can get the cowel off (side panel), the carb is in that box that looks like a small biscuit tin on top of the engine. Undo the two screws bolt things, lift the cover off and now you see an air filter on top of a carb. Undo those two screws, lift the filter off and you now have access to the carb. The jets in question are those two brass coloured things roughly in the middle. Un screw them and look for tiny little numbers on them.

good luck.
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[http://ventura.craigslist.org/mcy/3283377196.html

classic ]

well.... at least the yellow boots match the rest of the bike....... Laughing emoticon [/quote]
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This is what I do not get . That scoot in Ventura that modku posted , a lot of labor went into that dare I say more than a traditional rebuild . What I am saying is all that labor to make it look like crap !
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Re: A tricky One
dcunited4life wrote:
Spotted on CL, this Sprint doesn't have any of the hallmarks of a straight bodge, and possesses some known ownership history which is why I am aware of it's "import" status. Apparently, this Sprint is an Indonesian version. While there are some odd additions to the bike, there is no aspect that screams bodge. I'm going with a friend to see it on Monday, she's interested in a vintage scoot. PO to this one rode it for 2 years with no issue. Any thoughts from the community on this?

http://richmond.craigslist.org/mcy/3224968028.html
Why is the brake pedal trying to escape from the bike?
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