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Remember, the point of bodge spotting is to use cosmetic cues that suggest crappy work underneath.

The allstate has clearly been converted to 10in wheels and who knows what else, but at least it still has all the right body parts and it's unlikely to have a million miles on it and been patched back together.

At least they resisted the urge to install these "crash bars". I think these have to be The Number One tell of a bodge out there. It saddens me that Allstyles even sells them, and to say that they are "REMADE TO ULMA SPEC" borders on criminal. You will not find anything of the sort in any Ulma or other original catalog. Bolting the "crash bars" to the cowl makes them them worthless at providing any protection as they will just bend or rip the cowl the first time they hit the ground.
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oopsclunkthud wrote:
Remember, the point of bodge spotting is to use cosmetic cues that suggest crappy work underneath.
I hear ya Patrick, but the idea of dropping an LML 150 in without doing anything about that fork is begging for trouble. It's too much engine and not enough steering control. So some dood will buy it 'cause it'll go straight well enough, but it'll dump him on the first bumpy curve.
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agreed. at least most the issues you are likely to have can be seen before buying.
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From what I see in the photo it has an eight inch front still with a shock so someone made the front fork swap. The rear has a ten inch motor in it but some installed the rim backwards, the wide side is out. It's an Allstate, so that price tag is way to high.
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I think so. I've seen that bike parked on Newport and at Parilla.
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Looks like a Bodge to me... where at in Newport? I lived there for 20+ years..
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Looks like a Bodge to me... where at in Newport? I lived there for 20+ years..
Ah sorry. Newport Ave on the west side of Bend.
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"Running well and in great shape
All checked by motorcycle mechanic here.... all authentic parts.
Both have been rebuilt here in Canada"

whoppers? Facepalm emoticon

http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/mcy/3980457526.html

maybe not tho

Running well for these scooters
Older Vespa scooters do have an a attractive shape
Mechanic looked at them
Said "Yep, those really ARE parts on there!"
Canada, among other places and several times each

very, very clever Clap emoticon
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That Seattle ad was also running in SF.

Here's a cute one: also the most expensive i've seen...

http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/mcy/3979107080.html

"62 vespa piaggio all original - $5900"
...
"Exallant condition original paint no scratches my father kept in in a garage all the time covered"
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Survivor? More like hideous beast...
Anyone got $4500?


http://newyork.craigslist.org/mnh/mcd/3989504462.html

1959 VBA Vespa 150 scooter survivor with side cover grills
new tires,runs great,originally light blue/gray titled,including a windshelid that you can have put on,
401-699-2708 or 508-761-4713
the 4,500 is for both scooter and trailer we will seperate as well We are in Rhode Island but this is a NY type scooter so i figured i would advertize it here first
we also have a motocycle trailer (fits 3) for sale too
that this fits on as well that has new tires,paint,pro-built,springs and shocks ligts

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Survivor? More like hideous beast...
Anyone got $4500?
That's hot. I mean, how can you not love a bike with that kind of chutzpah!?

Also, is it actually a bodge? I see a yellowed speedo and some actual wear on the seats.
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That scoot looks 100% legit.
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Well, it may just be someone's DIY bodge...
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WTF is this . . .

I'd say small frame with custom panels and the rest of it . . . well . . . ??

It's got small frame forks & engine . . .

But the kick start is in an unusual place for a small frame engine . . .


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vespa-50-1967-E-/310707360313?pt=UK_Motorcycles&hash=item48579a1239
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gah! there is a showroom full of them. that sux
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gah! there is a showroom full of them. that sux
yep - noticed that in the background . . .
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WTF is this . . .

I'd say small frame with custom panels and the rest of it . . . well . . . ??

It's got small frame forks & engine . . .

But the kick start is in an unusual place for a small frame engine . . .


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Vespa 50 1967 3-speed in striking 60's pink and cream restored to a high standard with 57 Vespa handlebars, retro 'visible engine' and low light conversion, new MOT/ tax and electric start!
Anybody?

What the heck motor IS that?

What neb found:
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From the vid in the ad, our " retro 'visible engine' ":
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'normal' Smallframe motor Google found:
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Hi,
Here is a step inthe right direction
This is an eBay ad in Australia



Nothing to sell here just a warning to potential Vespa buyers. Beware of the so called " original Vespa" for sale.

Most Vintage Vespa's on this website are Asian restored Vespas that could be death traps and not worth anything.
Things to look out for

1. 2 tone paintwork
2. Glove box where spare wheel was
3. 10 inch wheels
5. lots of chrome. Vespa never used chrome
6. winged Piaggio badge on leg shield.
9. Lots of bumper guard bling
10. Indicators
11. People claiming they are original

Rule number 1 if you can't see it in the flesh don't buy it.
Get a person who knows Vespa to guide you

These Vespas should only sell for $2000 or less. These so called original Vespas will cost you lots of money to fix and they could be a death traps.


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These Vespas should only sell for $2000 ...
Stubborn emoticon

You had me right up to this. Wha? emoticon


I'd be more inclined to go with this, as suggested by seller:

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Fabio0922 wrote:
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These Vespas should only sell for $2000 ...
Stubborn emoticon

You had me right up to this. Wha? emoticon


I'd be more inclined to go with this, as suggested by seller:

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Ye!! I know, he is dreaming, the reason I got my Allstate from America was because I could not get anything good in Australia for under $4500.
Still an admirable gesture to try and warn people about bodge.
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yeh they made them in india
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A friend of mine bought one, had it shipped over from India and it's an awesome bike... really nice, solid and fast... he said the smell of curry in the crate was overwhelming and the bike smelled of it for some time after... no surprise and no joke... but he's very happy with... I'd consider getting one from his source when the time comes for sure.
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I think I can smell the street thats on.The adds dont jive,been listed 2 mon.
http://miami.craigslist.org/pbc/mcy/3878493152.html
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whooooaaahh dejavu Razz emoticon




seriously an 80's vijay/gp at a decent price, would probably go over the engine





rode one with a mugello kit little while ago
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I don't know anything about lambretta...
Does this look bodgy?

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that white lambretta looks really nice! Looks like an Innocenti LI. Hard to tell from the photos, but looks remarkably clean. It lacks any of the hallmarks of a bling-y restoration.

and Indian GPs (at least the ones that were imported to the US new) tend to be good bikes. You might want to look it over very carefully, but it could conceivably be okay... Might be the photos, but looks like the front fork is at a weird angle... like too up/down when it should be a 45 degree angle.

Why is Scoot.net down half the time I go there?
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amusing
Not really into the scooters with a theme - its just not me but they are usually beautifully done - not sure i would do this to my leg shield
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Not really into the scooters with a theme - its just not me but they are usually beautifully done - not sure i would do this to my leg shield
sponge bodge square pants!!
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Behold! A 1966 VBC / Super that is NOT a bodge!

It even has the buddy seat. And it's STILL not a bodge!

I didn't think it existed.

http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/mcy/4001938999.html
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The sponge bob is goofy but well executed. The center stand is a nice touch.
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I only stupid the feet there. Really makes it
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