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i will leave this to Will to continue the thread either here or to make a new one for advice.
id like to help him make it safe and ride able.
we will inspect it further and do whats necessary to make it so...
thanks for the advice on it so far.
Will, post motor pics please so the motor can be identified. its got all the acorn nuts and lock washers on all the motor bolts as seen in most PV rebuilds...
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Veni, Vidi, Posti
1997 Italjet Formula 125, 2 matching N.Z. '69 VBC Super, 177cc Racer, VespaCross Bodge, Puch SRA150, Piaggio Zip 100! & others
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Veni, Vidi, Posti
1997 Italjet Formula 125, 2 matching N.Z. '69 VBC Super, 177cc Racer, VespaCross Bodge, Puch SRA150, Piaggio Zip 100! & others
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Re: The guy with the bodge
wja1969 wrote: From almogavar1969: Doesnt need to take apart to inspect frame...
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Thanks jsunstar for helping me get some feedback on here. I feel like I'm at an AA meeting standing up in front of everyone and admitting I have a problem. And frankly after seeing people get shredded on these forums I was hesitant to post at all. I am not a bodge apologist or a Nam shill. I'm just a guy with a bike I need to figure out what to do with. I only spent $900 so I don't want to throw a lot of money into this. If I can determine the frame is solid, I'll use the bike. Anyway thanks again for the advice on checking out the frame. That's what I needed. I don't know the terms LML or Nam Caveman, but I did check the motor VIN number at scooterhelp.com and it came back as the right model. Not exactly sure, but it appears to be off to a poor start... Is the exhaust really welded on?
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Mr. Clean
P,SUPER,V90, 50 Special
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P,SUPER,V90, 50 Special
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Re: The guy with the bodge
[quote="SubEtherBASS"] wja1969 wrote: From almogavar1969: Doesnt need to take apart to inspect frame...
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Not exactly sure, but it appears to be off to a poor start... Is the exhaust really welded on? So it hasn't reached OZ yet? Welding the exhaust directly to the cylinder is the latest innovation in speed/performance.. Whomever built this motor knew what he was doing!
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Molto Verboso
Lambretta GP200, Vespa P200e, Motovespa do Brasil PX200E
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Molto Verboso
Lambretta GP200, Vespa P200e, Motovespa do Brasil PX200E
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Re: The guy with the bodge
[quote="Vader19"] SubEtherBASS wrote: wja1969 wrote: From almogavar1969: Doesnt need to take apart to inspect frame...
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Not exactly sure, but it appears to be off to a poor start... Is the exhaust really welded on? So it hasn't reached OZ yet? Welding the exhaust directly to the cylinder is the latest innovation in speed/performance.. Whomever built this motor knew what he was doing! It is a bodge. In the end they are generally like a puss filled infection. Good luck - but keep reporting as it benefits people who might be contemplating one of these disasters.
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07 GT200, Flip flops
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no, i dont think its welded. it looks like its got rtv or something...
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Mr. Clean
P,SUPER,V90, 50 Special
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P,SUPER,V90, 50 Special
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Re: The guy with the bodge
Vader19 wrote: Welding the exhaust directly to the cylinder is the latest innovation in speed/performance.. Whomever built this motor knew what he was doing! I was kidding.. I shouldn't have left off the
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Veni, Vidi, Posti
1997 Italjet Formula 125, 2 matching N.Z. '69 VBC Super, 177cc Racer, VespaCross Bodge, Puch SRA150, Piaggio Zip 100! & others
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Veni, Vidi, Posti
1997 Italjet Formula 125, 2 matching N.Z. '69 VBC Super, 177cc Racer, VespaCross Bodge, Puch SRA150, Piaggio Zip 100! & others
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Re: The guy with the bodge
Vader19 wrote: Vader19 wrote: Welding the exhaust directly to the cylinder is the latest innovation in speed/performance.. Whomever built this motor knew what he was doing! I was kidding.. I shouldn't have left off the  What is said is the gospel according to Mr Clean.
Remember to believe everything you read on the Internet
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vespas, lambrettas, cushman, and mopeds
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vespas, lambrettas, cushman, and mopeds
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Molto Verboso
1974 V90
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1974 V90
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Veni, Vidi, Posti
'80 P200E, '76 Primavera 125 ET3. '59 Vespa 150
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Veni, Vidi, Posti
'80 P200E, '76 Primavera 125 ET3. '59 Vespa 150
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All it needs is a tune up.
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Veni, Vidi, Posti
74 Super, 75 Super, PX project, LML off-roader and '66 Blue Badge Smallframe
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Veni, Vidi, Posti
74 Super, 75 Super, PX project, LML off-roader and '66 Blue Badge Smallframe
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I'm no Lammy guy but that is nice.
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Molto Verboso
Lambretta GP200, Vespa P200e, Motovespa do Brasil PX200E
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Molto Verboso
Lambretta GP200, Vespa P200e, Motovespa do Brasil PX200E
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why is that in bodgespotting? far from a bodge.
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'74 50s x3 '87 PK125XL '92 PK50XL2 Plurimatic - & - '58 AllState '68 Sprint '66(?) 125 Super '72 DanMotor 150 Super and '04 Bajaj LML hybrid
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snowrider wrote: Not a Vespa but would you be caught dead riding it? No, but alive yes. Love me them seats
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Allstate 1963
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I guess different strokes for different folks but the matte black paint, all the chrome and the leopard print seats - all made me recoil.
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Veni, Vidi, Posti
'80 P200E, '76 Primavera 125 ET3. '59 Vespa 150
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snowrider wrote: I guess different strokes for different folks but the matte black paint, all the chrome and the leopard print seats - all made me recoil. But what does it have to do with Asian restored bodged scooters?
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astromags wrote: snowrider wrote: I guess different strokes for different folks but the matte black paint, all the chrome and the leopard print seats - all made me recoil. But what does it have to do with Asian restored bodged scooters? Looks like a bodge to me. Sorry, did not realize the rules were so strict on this thread.
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Mr. Clean
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We're on Catalina Island... Sure enough... In a gift shop.. Full dressed bodge.
It is a really nice slightly metalic brown though. Really.. Too bad about the rest.
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Molto Verboso
Lambretta GP200, Vespa P200e, Motovespa do Brasil PX200E
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snowrider wrote: astromags wrote: snowrider wrote: I guess different strokes for different folks but the matte black paint, all the chrome and the leopard print seats - all made me recoil. But what does it have to do with Asian restored bodged scooters? Looks like a bodge to me. Sorry, did not realize the rules were so strict on this thread. obviously you dont know much about bodges or Lambrettas. People dont put than many expensive top shelf parts on a bodge. Its a rat rod look with matte paint job.
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I have a 1985 PX150 I keep in Vn, the original odometer states 66,000 km. On Vn roads that number of km should equal 80,000 miles. It is on its second respray and third engine rebuild, though I think I will install a new engine this fall.
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Veni, Vidi, Posti
1997 Italjet Formula 125, 2 matching N.Z. '69 VBC Super, 177cc Racer, VespaCross Bodge, Puch SRA150, Piaggio Zip 100! & others
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Phrancdakat wrote: I have a 1985 PX150 I keep in Vn, the original odometer states 66,000 km. On Vn roads that number of km should equal 80,000 miles. It is on its second respray and third engine rebuild, though I think I will install a new engine this fall. Huh? Bodges cant travel that far! possibly the wrong area for this post?
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1965 Sprint 166, 2008 LXS150
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I saw the paperwork... Having taken apart a Sprint bodge a few years ago... most of those those parts are super cheap from SEA. White walls yellowing like that are on so many of them. The speedo with no miles, the super thin chrome rims. name plate barely glued on... And might just be me but the way the seams are completely globbed over looks like the typical filler coating that they do over the whole scooter. If it did come from Germany they restored it to the exacting standards of Vietnam. IMHO.
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1965 Sprint 166, 2008 LXS150
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'74 50s x3 '87 PK125XL '92 PK50XL2 Plurimatic - & - '58 AllState '68 Sprint '66(?) 125 Super '72 DanMotor 150 Super and '04 Bajaj LML hybrid
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I think German 'bodge' then. I have a smallie definitely from Germany and it has that same additional VIN tag on the side of the tunnel. Regardless, why tell lies here: "all parts are present and original including paint." on both?
Probably OK bikes for too much money.
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1962 VBB, 2005 PX150, Yamaha Vino 125's (3)
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I might get totally flamed for this but -
I think that some of the bodge bikes coming out of Asia are cosmetically GORGEOUS. Super gorgeous actually. The two tone paint with matching seats and all the chrome and white walls...absolutely spectacular in my eyes. Some of those builders have the cosmetics nailed.
Too bad the bikes are jerry rigged down to every last bolt.
Running for cover as I press "submit"
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2007 Vespa 250 gts / 1964 Vespa VNB / 1961 Lambretta Li150
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2007 Vespa 250 gts / 1964 Vespa VNB / 1961 Lambretta Li150
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Nah, I agree! Those bikes look great, that's the allure of them that traps poor souls.
Thanks to the eyes of those who know here on MV that keep us aware of those evil bikes.
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'74 50s x3 '87 PK125XL '92 PK50XL2 Plurimatic - & - '58 AllState '68 Sprint '66(?) 125 Super '72 DanMotor 150 Super and '04 Bajaj LML hybrid
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sconner60123 wrote: I might get totally flamed for this but -
I think that some of the bodge bikes coming out of Asia are cosmetically GORGEOUS. Super gorgeous actually. The two tone paint with matching seats and all the chrome and white walls...absolutely spectacular in my eyes. Some of those builders have the cosmetics nailed.
Too bad the bikes are jerry rigged down to every last bolt.
Running for cover as I press "submit" Me three, but on these German 'bodges'. Possibly even mechanically sound, you know those clever & obsessive Germans. Which is funny, considering the source of the phrase "jerry rigged".
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Veni, Vidi, Posti
74 Super, 75 Super, PX project, LML off-roader and '66 Blue Badge Smallframe
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If only the bodgers were as good with mechanics as they are with paint!
Voodoo, what do you know about the VIN plate on the tunnel? Does it mean it comes from a specific place? I saw a "125 Sprint" on the weekend with one.
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'74 50s x3 '87 PK125XL '92 PK50XL2 Plurimatic - & - '58 AllState '68 Sprint '66(?) 125 Super '72 DanMotor 150 Super and '04 Bajaj LML hybrid
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IIRC, German language verification of the model, VIN plus birthday.
125 Sprint, eh? Who knew, special hotrod that's legal for German kids?
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1961 VBB1; 1978 50 Special (no more)
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1961 VBB1; 1978 50 Special (no more)
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They have been on DC craiglist for a while.
The fella got burned... He came here for help.
New: What is the motor size of my Vespas
Apparently he could not fix them and now he wants to dump them.
I have been thinking about these being bodges from the very beginning. Maybe not from SEA but bodges nonetheless....
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'74 50s x3 '87 PK125XL '92 PK50XL2 Plurimatic - & - '58 AllState '68 Sprint '66(?) 125 Super '72 DanMotor 150 Super and '04 Bajaj LML hybrid
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sorry, tmtran73
Uncle! Thanks for the link. Pretty scoots, but some bodgey mods, like that nice PHBL carb w/ the horrible installation. Now you gotta wonder what's under the paint.
What did 12ci think? (& thanks for the gif)
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'74 50s x3 '87 PK125XL '92 PK50XL2 Plurimatic - & - '58 AllState '68 Sprint '66(?) 125 Super '72 DanMotor 150 Super and '04 Bajaj LML hybrid
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Back to classic bodgery. Here's your full on plaid seats, chromed full edge trim, seat base & fork stem top, added glovebox, too tall speedo, even the wings up front and once gorgeous paint & immaculate body work 10, maybe 5 years on.
http://seattle.craigslist.org/est/mcy/5077279536.html
No wonder poor seller has no idea what it is and, SURPRISE!
Quote: Previous owner spent an obscene amount of money on the engine and gearbox etc.
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Wrecked '61 VNB '65 Allstate '74 Rally 200
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Wrecked '61 VNB '65 Allstate '74 Rally 200
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1985 T5, 1978 50 Special, 1985 Honda Elite 150, 1965 Honda C100, 2007 Vino 125
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Wrecked '61 VNB '65 Allstate '74 Rally 200
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Wrecked '61 VNB '65 Allstate '74 Rally 200
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I was just about to post that one lol...
centerstand looks like its ready to fly to the moon.
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Veni, Vidi, Posti
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'74 50s x3 '87 PK125XL '92 PK50XL2 Plurimatic - & - '58 AllState '68 Sprint '66(?) 125 Super '72 DanMotor 150 Super and '04 Bajaj LML hybrid
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^^^three strikes & yer OUT!
but other than the 12 pak glove box & volcano speedo, what are you guys seeing? Those say Bajaj rather than Bodge. Maybe just a poor akward Bajaj looking odd on eights w/ a 10" centerstand at a silly high price because it's wrongly labeled as a Vespa?
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