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Are you asking if it was restored in Vietnam? i doubt it.
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a VBC with VL3 look?

Price is high for a non-running project.
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Please tell me about this. Bodge?
I'm considering buying this. Any thoughts?

Thanks in advance.
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Re: Please tell me about this. Bodge?
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I'm considering buying this. Any thoughts?

Thanks in advance.
I don't see any red flags. Just a recent paint job. That looks a lot like a bike I used to own.
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Wow, it sure looks like it could be the same bike.

That's good to hear. Vintage Italian motorcycles I'm familiar with. But thought I should get some advice on the Vespa.

Thanks for the reply.

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I agree no red flags, but it's hard to say from just those photos. What has the seller told you about the provenance of the bike?

If you can share a picture of the motor, that would be a good next step for us to help you here.
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Thanks Chandlerman, I'll work on both of those suggestions.


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Re: Please tell me about this. Bodge?
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I'm considering buying this. Any thoughts?

Thanks in advance.
Agreed with other, there is no immediate redflag from first few pictures.

ask for more pictures like engine, tail end and close up on headset
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Haven't talked with the owner about the history.

But here is the headset:
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The only thing i find suspect it's the owners avoidance of taking close up pictures of helpful details. Like if that was intentional photo of the speedo, it's so far away you can't see any details of it. Makes me wonder why... And these are the things that give me confidence or not in buying used items from someone.
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I have laid eyes on the scoot. And I was the one who took the pics. When I get a chance to get to the scooter this weekend I'll take some pics of the engine.

I understand what you saying and agree with you.

Thanks again everyone for your input.

Bill
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I have laid eyes on the scoot. And I was the one who took the pics. When I get a chance to get to the scooter this weekend I'll take some pics of the engine.

I understand what you saying and agree with you.

Thanks again everyone for your input.

Bill
Ah ok. I misunderstood. Thought they were just sending you pictures and you hadn't seen it in person. My bad! But that is my method of thinking when looking at Craigslist ads. If i can't see it in the photos they post i won't consider it!
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In the interest of brevity I didn't tell the whole story. My fault. I agree with everything you said. In the last week I have responded to a half dozen CL ads. Not a single one was legit. No more CL for me, I'm afraid.
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Are you asking if it was restored in Vietnam? i doubt it.
An instant bodge right off the assembly line. No modifications needed.
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https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vespa-Rally-200/254207347829?hash=item3b2ff04c75:g:HBMAAOSwaRRcvNIG

Trying to make sense of this Rally 200 up on ebay. Not necessarily from SEA but its got the following;

Internal Foot brake like a P200
Tail light doesn't look like a rally one,
Front guard looks like its been mooshed out for the shocker
Euro headset with the Key in the top (only the US ones had those?)
White speedometer.. Didn't they only come out in black?
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Skarajew wrote:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vespa-Rally-200/254207347829?hash=item3b2ff04c75:g:HBMAAOSwaRRcvNIG

Trying to make sense of this Rally 200 up on ebay. Not necessarily from SEA but its got the following;
Its a Rally clone on a P frame. Nothing wrong with that IF its been done right. The seller may not even know it
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Re: Please tell me about this. Bodge?
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I'm considering buying this. Any thoughts?

Thanks in advance.
Based on the pics you have provided so far....not a southeast asia restoration.
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About red P above From Facebook:
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That is a PX frame, extended in the rear to accept Rally side covers. The horn cover is welded on, and it has a widened Rally front fender over a PX fork. The Rally handlebars are dropped a few degrees.
I know that because I built this bike about 20 years ago in Germany....

....The then owner wanted the vintage look with more modern reliability. The handlebars cam from my cutdown PX, which was in pieces at that time....

.....No kit, all handmade in metal.
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About red P above From Facebook:
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That is a PX frame, extended in the rear to accept Rally side covers. The horn cover is welded on, and it has a widened Rally front fender over a PX fork. The Rally handlebars are dropped a few degrees.
I know that because I built this bike about 20 years ago in Germany....

....The then owner wanted the vintage look with more modern reliability. The handlebars cam from my cutdown PX, which was in pieces at that time....

.....No kit, all handmade in metal.
In other words, it's not a Rally.
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Yeah, ad does come across a bit misleading.
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Looking at buying this. Let me know if you see any red flags. Thanks in advance.

https://classifieds.ksl.com/listing/55828804

It's advertised as a 1966 Super 150. Seller stated that "I purchased it already restored by, I think, the genuine buddy scooter company in Chicago. It was sent to the Salt Lake scooter company, which is no longer in business. Everything on it is as it seems, very good condition and it had 0 miles on it when I bought it."
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Looking at buying this. Let me know if you see any red flags. Thanks in advance.

https://classifieds.ksl.com/listing/55828804
Unable to acces the site. Perhaps post the pictures here?
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MP2019 wrote:
Looking at buying this. Let me know if you see any red flags. Thanks in advance.

https://classifieds.ksl.com/listing/55828804
Unable to acces the site. Perhaps post the pictures here?
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I dont see any red flags but its hard to see to the right of the helmet hook. The nammers usually have an ignition switch there. It has a PX engine which would be very unusual for a nammer.
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No red flags here. No bondoed seams, original square numberplat holder.
Nice scooter, like the colour!
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Probably Indian restoration. P-series centerstand, rear brake pedal rubber has flat tabs that hang off, and the front fork is a Bajaj replacement fork that has the weird front hub with the fins cut down.
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Probably Indian restoration. P-series centerstand, rear brake pedal rubber has flat tabs that hang off, and the front fork is a Bajaj replacement fork that has the weird front hub with the fins cut down.
Ebay is full of vespa parts from India.
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A Super on tens?
MP2019 wrote:
... Seller stated that "I purchased it already restored by, I think, the genuine buddy scooter company in Chicago.
Looks an awful lot like one of these that were being sold by ScooterWorks in Chicago. I don't think they sell them any more but I have seen one up close. Not too bad considering, but I believe they sourced the bikes and had all the bodywork/paint done in Asia. That said, the one I saw was well done, looked gorgeous but who knows what lurks under the pretty paint.


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Original steel frame
Fully restored in Chicago, IL
Brand new 5 port engine
All new electrical components
10 in. wheels for better ride quality
Warranty included
Speedo looks shiny repop, too low miles to be original methinks. Check to see if it has an LML motor.
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Re: A Super on tens?
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MP2019 wrote:
... Seller stated that "I purchased it already restored by, I think, the genuine buddy scooter company in Chicago.
Looks an awful lot like one of these that were being sold by ScooterWorks in Chicago. I don't think they sell them any more but I have seen one up close. Not too bad considering, but I believe they sourced the bikes and had all the bodywork/paint done in Asia. That said, the one I saw was well done, looked gorgeous but who knows what lurks under the pretty paint.


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Original steel frame
Fully restored in Chicago, IL
Brand new 5 port engine
All new electrical components
10 in. wheels for better ride quality
Warranty included
Speedo looks shiny repop, too low miles to be original methinks. Check to see if it has an LML motor.
I think that's exactly what this probably is. If it's clean and runs good do you think it's worth around 2k?
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Re: A Super on tens?
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MP2019 wrote:
... Seller stated that "I purchased it already restored by, I think, the genuine buddy scooter company in Chicago.
Looks an awful lot like one of these that were being sold by ScooterWorks in Chicago. I don't think they sell them any more but I have seen one up close. Not too bad considering, but I believe they sourced the bikes and had all the bodywork/paint done in Asia. That said, the one I saw was well done, looked gorgeous but who knows what lurks under the pretty paint.
Scooterworks bought an entire shipping container of Bajaj Indian resto's back in about 2007. They got stuck holding them when the financial crisis killed the scooter market, then started trickling them onto the market maybe five years ago.

SW put motors & cables in them, but they frames were painted in Asia.

I saw several of them at one time or another at SW, even have a picture some of them lined up in the warehouse. That wasn't one of the colors I saw, but there could certainly be more colors that I didn't see.
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https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vespa-Rally-200/254207347829?hash=item3b2ff04c75:g:HBMAAOSwaRRcvNIG

Trying to make sense of this Rally 200 up on ebay. Not necessarily from SEA but its got the following;

Internal Foot brake like a P200
Tail light doesn't look like a rally one,
Front guard looks like its been mooshed out for the shocker
Euro headset with the Key in the top (only the US ones had those?)
White speedometer.. Didn't they only come out in black?
Looks like its been amended. All is right in the world.
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ohh no bondo is no longer holding up.

Restored 2 years ago by a well known scooter shop in town (according to seller).

Well there is no well known scooter shop in this part of town beside Scooter West that's 70miles away in SD.
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Restored two years ago and then packed in salt to preserve it.
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Restored two years ago and then packed in salt to preserve it.
pickled
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Anyone know this seller?
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1967-Piaggio-Classic-Vespa-Motor-Scooter-Restored-150cc-Vintage/163693737024?hash=item261ce83440:g:EZQAAOSwNqFc3mID

Looks ok, but I am not qualified to pick the nitty gritty from the pictures. Do you think the restoration was really done in New Mexico?
And what parts do not belong on this Sprint?
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Re: Anyone know this seller?
sp949 wrote:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1967-Piaggio-Classic-Vespa-Motor-Scooter-Restored-150cc-Vintage/163693737024?hash=item261ce83440:g:EZQAAOSwNqFc3mID

Looks ok, but I am not qualified to pick the nitty gritty from the pictures. Do you think the restoration was really done in New Mexico?
And what parts do not belong on this Sprint?
The only way this bike was "restored in New Mexico" is if there's now a scooter shop on the site of the former FOB or Fire Base New Mexico.

I had a list of a dozen or more things wrong, but the cat jumped on my keyboard and somehow deleted them.

Short version: looks like a VBB with a 10" conversion and lots of bondo, then somebody slapped some sprint cowls on it.
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another de-bodged scoot. Chatted with Seller, He reassured me it's straight from Italy and never made a stop for some decades in Nam.

at least, it is still an 8" unless the guy already reverted back since purchased as project.
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too obvious.... Has seen this unsold for almost a year.
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