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How much is $9500 AUD in real money?
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About 100 dong
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qascooter wrote:
Bummer Jonathon.

I got a bodge running for my wife's friend Lisa, or actually her husband Keith. He is a big car guy and bought this thing and welded a nipple on the tank, then put in a racing fuel tap and fuel filter. I removed the filter and voila, it runs consistent.
Maybe this isn't funny to more knowledgeable people, but I nearly died when I read the bit about welding a nipple. What is a nipple on the tank?
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Maybe this isn't funny to more knowledgeable people, but I nearly died when I read the bit about welding a nipple. What is a nipple on the tank?
I can send you to a few websites for that answer
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Alsan wrote:
Maybe this isn't funny to more knowledgeable people, but I nearly died when I read the bit about welding a nipple. What is a nipple on the tank?
It's a fuel connector - a thing that the fuel line plugs onto, kinda like the banjo at the carb.

So the person "fixed" the fuel tank by removing the original petcock (nipples, petting cocks, heh heh), or fuel tap that's in the bottom of the tank, and welded a fuel line connector in it's place.

I miss Bitza's use of the english language. Priceless slang, and what a cool dude....
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qascooter wrote:
It's a fuel connector - a thing that the fuel line plugs onto, kinda like the banjo at the carb.

So the person "fixed" the fuel tank by removing the original petcock (nipples, petting cocks, heh heh), or fuel tap that's in the bottom of the tank, and welded a fuel line connector in it's place.

I miss Bitza's use of the english language. Priceless slang, and what a cool dude....
Thanks. I think I might be more confused & amused now than I was in the beginning.
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Trying hard to convince...........way too hard:

"This scooter was imported in 2012. It's first Mot was done at the time showing 0 miles. The second mot in 2013 shows 19 miles. It has spent most of its life as an exhibit at the Atwell Wilson Motor Museum, and comes with their original display sign.

This scooter is exceptional. It comes with immaculate paintwork and chrome. Complete with its spare wheel and cover. Front and rear rack, sports exhaust. Just from looking at it you can see that it has been well looked after and cherished.

This is a very reluctant sale. I am not interested in accepting offers. Viewing is welcome.

If you have any questions please call Phil."

What's a "Mot"?
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What's a "Mot"?
A test that all U.K. road vehicles more than three years old have to pass each year in order to prove that they are safe to drive
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"Complete with its spare wheel and cover."

Woo hoo
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This is an American bike, with a pretty amateur restoration.

But it's funny to see it all dressed up in Bring a Trailer hyperbole.
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1980-vespa-p200/

And then a VBB import implying it's a California bike in there too.
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1965-vespa-vbb-150/
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Wowza...who wants to pay $13,990 for this beast?

1967 Vespa Vespa 150 Super

I know.."But! But! Sidecar!"
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Let's tone down the racist overtones, please.
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Apologies. Clearly didn't think that one through.
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Apologies. Clearly didn't think that one through.
Thanks for the edit. Appreciate it.
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Let me see if I'm developing the proper eye -

Bodge? https://pueblo.craigslist.org/pts/d/canon-city-1969-vespa-sprint-piaggio/7344201598.html

I'm not quite sure what the tip-off would be. The two-tone paint? The fancy badge work on the leg shield? It seems just a little, well a lot, over the top. The fact it's been on Craigslist for a while?

It says bodge to me - but maybe it's fine. Am I developing a good sense of the bodge, or am I just becoming paranoid?

Edited to add - it also seems suspicious to me that when I click on the link here, it says "located in Florence". When I search on my Craigslist, it says it's located in Colorado "south of Springs right by Canon City."
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pbcoole wrote:
Let me see if I'm developing the proper eye -

Bodge? https://pueblo.craigslist.org/pts/d/canon-city-1969-vespa-sprint-piaggio/7344201598.html

I'm not quite sure what the tip-off would be. The two-tone paint? The fancy badge work on the leg shield? It seems just a little, well a lot, over the top. The fact it's been on Craigslist for a while?

It says bodge to me - but maybe it's fine. Am I developing a good sense of the bodge, or am I just becoming paranoid?

Edited to add - it also seems suspicious to me that when I click on the link here, it says "located in Florence". When I search on my Craigslist, it says it's located in Colorado "south of Springs right by Canon City."
Bodgetastic to the BodgeMax!
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The wings around the badge are a copy of a real accessory, the crash bars on the cowls are a tell, memorize the shape and the fact that they mount to the cowl and not the frame.
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Other tell-tales...
- The mud flap riveted onto the front mudguard.
- The fact that it's alleged in Colorado, but has a Washington State plate from 2015 over some other state from 2004...this thing doesn't spend a lot of time on the road.
- The massive bondo flake on the righthand cowl
- The ill-shaped glovebox latch
- The legshield trim
- The legshield glovebox
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- No name speedo
- Floor mats
- Over abundance of frilly doodads
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Bootleg spare tire cover with wrong font for Vespa logo.
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Motorcycle Vespa 90 CC Year 1963, Unique Original Restaured Made Italy

Price:
US $10,000.00

For that price, I'm glad it's fully restaured. Looks a little ... tall.
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For that price, I'm glad it's fully restaured. Looks a little ... tall.
Is that a cross between "restored" and "restaurant"?
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Is that a cross between "restored" and "restaurant"?
Yeah ... that was kind of the joke. Laughing emoticon
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Don't thing the smallie is a bodge, but way overpriced?? YES!!!
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Don't thing the smallie is a bodge, but way overpriced?? YES!!!
Maybe $10,000 is its projected price for the year 2025. He's willing to hold out. That's what the Italians do on ebay. They list a GS air box for $400.00 and let it sit there for five years until someone finally buys it.
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SaFiS wrote:
Don't thing the smallie is a bodge, but way overpriced?? YES!!!
Still looks shitty though with that two tone paint job and white walls.
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SaFiS wrote:
Don't thing the smallie is a bodge, but way overpriced?? YES!!!
It maybe a bodge. I only say that because Robot repaired a clutch on a smallframe that he says was restored in South East Asia.

In the beginning of video he states the origin of restoration and through out the video he finds some iffy stuff just by going though the clutch.

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It maybe a bodge. I only say that because Robot repaired a clutch on a smallframe that he says was restored in South East Asia.

In the beginning of video he states the origin of restoration and through out the video he finds some iffy stuff just by going though the clutch.

I love those videos.
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I can't remember which member of this forum said it, but it was several years ago. The member lives (lived?) in Vietnam and said that there are two types of restorations in Vietnam. The first is the bodge that is exported to unsuspecting buyers around the world. The second is the very well done restoration with high quality original parts. Those are kept in Vietnam by discerning collectors.
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I remember that comment. I think it was Ebeth that said it...
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Ebeth is from Indonesia. I believe it was an expat guy who lives in Vietnam. He had several really cool bikes.

Anyway, it does seem interesting that we never see bodges owned by Vietnamese members in Vietnam😆.
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No, I think it's best to believe that an entire nation of people does things the same way.
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jape wrote:
No, I think it's best to believe that an entire nation of people does things the same way.
Haha! Good one.
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All you GL owners out there..........this is not a GL, right? Side panels and headset are wrong for a start. He thought it was a Sportique at first, which was a British deviation on the VBB theme. I suspect this may be closer to the truth. Either that or it's a mish mash of parts, South East Asian or otherwise.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/265218689411?hash=item3dc0440983%3Ag%3A0hEAAOSwtulg4cmK&LH_ItemCondition=3000
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As a GL owner, I don't know what that thing is, but it's definitely not a GL. Looks like the back half is maybe a VBB with a Pakistani cowl (side saddle foot rest). Past that, hard to say. Looks like a Sprint front fender, but definitely not a GL.
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It looks like it might be a Douglas Vespa Grand Luxe.

I'm guessing that's a British-produced VBB that had its own special edition?

The accessories and style look very British, first-wave Mod. Looks like accessories Vigano made decades ago. But looks to have a more recent restoration, with a PX engine.

And appears from the description to have been done for show, and not to be ridden.

There's some info on Douglas here.
https://www.veteranvespaclub.com/piaggio-history/2018/12/18/new-forest-hampshire-riding-event
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hjo wrote:
It looks like it might be a Douglas Vespa Grand Luxe.

I'm guessing that's a British-produced VBB that had its own special edition?

The accessories and style look very British, first-wave Mod. Looks like accessories Vigano made decades ago. But looks to have a more recent restoration, with a PX engine.

And appears from the description to have been done for show, and not to be ridden.

There's some info on Douglas here.
https://www.veteranvespaclub.com/piaggio-history/2018/12/18/new-forest-hampshire-riding-event
The Grand Luxe was a Sportique/British VBB, which in it's own right is a decent Vespa. I just don't get why the seller is talking GL
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