Sun Jul 04, 2021 8:11 pm

Molto Verboso
Vespas 1964 GS160, 1965 SS180, 1977 V9A1T, 1983 PX150E
Joined: 16 Apr 2011
Posts: 1882
Location: Siam
 
Molto Verboso
Vespas 1964 GS160, 1965 SS180, 1977 V9A1T, 1983 PX150E
Joined: 16 Apr 2011
Posts: 1882
Location: Siam
Sun Jul 04, 2021 8:11 pm linkquote
There’s always possibility that he doesn’t know what he’s talking about.
Mon Jul 05, 2021 5:07 am

Hooked
'81 50 special,'57 GS150 VS3,'59 152L2,'60 SII Li150
Joined: 18 Mar 2009
Posts: 209
Location: The garden of England
 
Hooked
'81 50 special,'57 GS150 VS3,'59 152L2,'60 SII Li150
Joined: 18 Mar 2009
Posts: 209
Location: The garden of England
Mon Jul 05, 2021 5:07 am linkquote
I'm guessing he's just shortened the Grand Luxe to "GL".

There were 3 special edition Sportiques from 61, the Supreme painted silver, the Grand Luxe painted gold, and just before the end of Douglas production in 65 the Grand Tourer, painted metallic maroon. Not many of any of them about.
Mon Jul 05, 2021 6:48 am

Molto Verboso
One or two fun scoots....nothing too precious
Joined: 17 Jul 2013
Posts: 1756
Location: UK (South East)
 
Molto Verboso
One or two fun scoots....nothing too precious
Joined: 17 Jul 2013
Posts: 1756
Location: UK (South East)
Mon Jul 05, 2021 6:48 am linkquote
Neil Edgar wrote:
I'm guessing he's just shortened the Grand Luxe to "GL".

There were 3 special edition Sportiques from 61, the Supreme painted silver, the Grand Luxe painted gold, and just before the end of Douglas production in 65 the Grand Tourer, painted metallic maroon. Not many of any of them about.
Very good point. Let's assume that it's a Sportique Grand Luxe, so potentially a nice scooter, and one that probably does not belong in this thread
Thu Jul 08, 2021 11:59 am

Member
Vespa 150
Joined: 29 Apr 2021
Posts: 33
Location: Los Angeles
 
Member
Vespa 150
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Posts: 33
Location: Los Angeles
Thu Jul 08, 2021 11:59 am linkquote
So, what would you say the "bodge" era is? 1956-1969? It seems like 90% of them are described as 63, 64, 65.

I mean, if it's a 1971, can you assume that you are "in the clear"? What about for example, an '83, when they were no longer imported into the US?

Thanks in advance.
Thu Jul 08, 2021 1:26 pm

Hooked
'81 50 special,'57 GS150 VS3,'59 152L2,'60 SII Li150
Joined: 18 Mar 2009
Posts: 209
Location: The garden of England
 
Hooked
'81 50 special,'57 GS150 VS3,'59 152L2,'60 SII Li150
Joined: 18 Mar 2009
Posts: 209
Location: The garden of England
Thu Jul 08, 2021 1:26 pm linkquote
Now I'm no expert on the delights that can be found on the US shores, but I have read all of this thread with interest. I would say it's more specific models than age. 1956 is back to wideframes, so not that far back. Sure you see people advertising VBB's with open handlebars, and low lights as mid 50's models for lots of money. But if your going to spend the money without a bit of research, well, so be it.

The US bodges mostly seem to be VBB, Sprint, Super, the odd GL. Usually early to late 60's. Mostly from SEA, though not all. All the tell tale signs are well documented here by the good to inform the the wary buyer.

I'm sure my learnt peers will correct me. if I've made any error.

Here in the UK we don't get many SEA imports, a few bogus companies have cropped up over the years offering restored Vespa's, and have vanished after making a few quid.

What we do get is early 70's Bajaj's pretending to be Italian Supers, Sprints, and Sprint Veloces.

So there may very well be Bodges well after 1971, if any of these thing have started to come your way.
Thu Jul 08, 2021 10:00 pm

Addicted
A box of parts
Joined: 30 Jul 2009
Posts: 783
Location: San Francisco, CA
 
Addicted
A box of parts
Joined: 30 Jul 2009
Posts: 783
Location: San Francisco, CA
Thu Jul 08, 2021 10:00 pm linkquote
In the US, it's interesting.

The import bikes apparently have a big market. They are most of what you see for sale here.

And they'll be for sale for a fortune, because the buyer was convinced they were rare and valuable. Or they are falling apart after sitting for a couple of years (with 100 miles on a new speedo), and still a fortune.

The US never had a ton of Vespas, but they almost all had a similar life. Someone bought one on impulse and rode it for a summer or two, or dropped it once, and let it sit for decades. It's rare to find one with more than 10,000 miles.

So big difference with American market bikes and ones from SE Asia, which had much more active lives.
Thu Jul 15, 2021 2:32 am

Molto Verboso
Wrecked '61 VNB '65 Allstate
Joined: 08 May 2012
Posts: 1519
Location: PNW
 
Molto Verboso
Wrecked '61 VNB '65 Allstate
Joined: 08 May 2012
Posts: 1519
Location: PNW
Thu Jul 15, 2021 2:32 am linkquote
Friend texted me a picture of a scooter she spotted in an antique store in Red Lodge, MT. Said it made her think of me.


Told her I was horribly insulted.

Thu Jul 15, 2021 2:33 am

Molto Verboso
Wrecked '61 VNB '65 Allstate
Joined: 08 May 2012
Posts: 1519
Location: PNW
 
Molto Verboso
Wrecked '61 VNB '65 Allstate
Joined: 08 May 2012
Posts: 1519
Location: PNW
Thu Jul 15, 2021 2:33 am linkquote
Price was $4999
Thu Jul 15, 2021 4:02 am

Molto Verboso
Vespas 1964 GS160, 1965 SS180, 1977 V9A1T, 1983 PX150E
Joined: 16 Apr 2011
Posts: 1882
Location: Siam
 
Molto Verboso
Vespas 1964 GS160, 1965 SS180, 1977 V9A1T, 1983 PX150E
Joined: 16 Apr 2011
Posts: 1882
Location: Siam
Thu Jul 15, 2021 4:02 am linkquote
macgerk77 wrote:
Price was $4999
Yes, I can just barely see that on the price tag.
Thu Jul 15, 2021 3:20 pm

Ossessionato
76 Sprint V, 63 GL, 62 VBB, 05 Stella
Joined: 16 Jun 2011
Posts: 3785
Location: Nashville
 
Ossessionato
76 Sprint V, 63 GL, 62 VBB, 05 Stella
Joined: 16 Jun 2011
Posts: 3785
Location: Nashville
Thu Jul 15, 2021 3:20 pm linkquote
I don't think people really appreciate how much it costs too add a legshield glovebox to a scooter that wasn't designed for one.
Thu Jul 15, 2021 4:13 pm

Veni, Vidi, Posti
'15 GTS300, '86 PX125EFL, '66 VBB, '04 Ninja 250
Joined: 04 Apr 2013
Posts: 5147
Location: San Diego, CA
 
Veni, Vidi, Posti
'15 GTS300, '86 PX125EFL, '66 VBB, '04 Ninja 250
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Posts: 5147
Location: San Diego, CA
Thu Jul 15, 2021 4:13 pm linkquote
not to mention 10 lbs of bondo adds up if you use it on each bike
Fri Jul 16, 2021 9:01 am

Enthusiast
'66 Sears Cruisaire Smallframe
Joined: 12 Aug 2019
Posts: 98
Location: York, PA
 
Enthusiast
'66 Sears Cruisaire Smallframe
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Posts: 98
Location: York, PA
Fri Jul 16, 2021 9:01 am linkquote
I don't even know what to make of this one. What is it?

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/155239489932718/

Vintage Vespa for sale. Been kept in a shed for 25 years and owner passed away. I don't know much about it.

I believe to be from the 60s maybe early 70s. Has no title or keys. Comes with a spare tire. Chrome in good condition and all parts there.

I can provide a bill of sale. I am asking $1500 OBO

(pics from Facebook don't seem to work)
Fri Jul 16, 2021 9:38 am

bodgemaster
63 GL, 76 Super (x2), 74 Primavera (x2), 79 P200, 06 Fly 150
Joined: 26 Sep 2013
Posts: 6109
Location: So Cal
 
bodgemaster
63 GL, 76 Super (x2), 74 Primavera (x2), 79 P200, 06 Fly 150
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Location: So Cal
Fri Jul 16, 2021 9:38 am linkquote
It’s not a Sprint… looks like some 50s something that somebody modded. If it was nearby I’d take a look at it.
Mon Aug 09, 2021 12:25 pm

Member
Vespa 150
Joined: 29 Apr 2021
Posts: 33
Location: Los Angeles
 
Member
Vespa 150
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Location: Los Angeles
Mon Aug 09, 2021 12:25 pm linkquote
Another sidecar. And another '65:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/174880832938



Mon Aug 09, 2021 2:43 pm

Ossessionato
Joined: 22 Oct 2011
Posts: 4543
Location: Tega Cay, SC
 
Ossessionato
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Location: Tega Cay, SC
Mon Aug 09, 2021 2:43 pm linkquote
Sure it is
Wed Aug 11, 2021 10:25 am

Member
Vespa 150
Joined: 29 Apr 2021
Posts: 33
Location: Los Angeles
 
Member
Vespa 150
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Location: Los Angeles
Wed Aug 11, 2021 10:25 am linkquote
https://www.ebay.com/itm/324742228855

I don't know whether or not this is real, but I can just smell the fresh silver spray paint on those wheels.

Plus, I love all the shit in the yard.



Wed Aug 11, 2021 10:41 am

Molto Verboso
One or two fun scoots....nothing too precious
Joined: 17 Jul 2013
Posts: 1756
Location: UK (South East)
 
Molto Verboso
One or two fun scoots....nothing too precious
Joined: 17 Jul 2013
Posts: 1756
Location: UK (South East)
Wed Aug 11, 2021 10:41 am linkquote
That's a pretty straight PX150E by the looks of it. Sure it's overpriced but not a bodge, at least not one from SEA
Wed Aug 11, 2021 11:01 am

Addicted
1967 Granturismo 177, 1979 P200E, 1974 Primavera 125 Hooligans S/C Seattle/Austin
Joined: 11 Mar 2013
Posts: 646
Location: Austin, TX
 
Addicted
1967 Granturismo 177, 1979 P200E, 1974 Primavera 125 Hooligans S/C Seattle/Austin
Joined: 11 Mar 2013
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Location: Austin, TX
Wed Aug 11, 2021 11:01 am linkquote
It looks like a freshly rattle canned P to me.
Wed Aug 11, 2021 11:26 am

Veni, Vidi, Posti
'15 GTS300, '86 PX125EFL, '66 VBB, '04 Ninja 250
Joined: 04 Apr 2013
Posts: 5147
Location: San Diego, CA
 
Veni, Vidi, Posti
'15 GTS300, '86 PX125EFL, '66 VBB, '04 Ninja 250
Joined: 04 Apr 2013
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Location: San Diego, CA
Wed Aug 11, 2021 11:26 am linkquote
I want his PX speedo for my bike
Wed Aug 11, 2021 12:19 pm

Ossessionato
1979 P150X, 1983 P200E, 1988 T5, 1995 PX200E, 2011 Yamaha Fazer 600 S2
Joined: 02 Aug 2015
Posts: 2473
Location: Veria, Greece
 
Ossessionato
1979 P150X, 1983 P200E, 1988 T5, 1995 PX200E, 2011 Yamaha Fazer 600 S2
Joined: 02 Aug 2015
Posts: 2473
Location: Veria, Greece
Wed Aug 11, 2021 12:19 pm linkquote
sdjohn wrote:
I want his PX speedo for my bike
SC has brought some "repops" but from the photos they look terrible. Unfortunately, they're "unobtainium" nowadays. Found me a NOS one last year in Sweden. The only Italian part between hundreds of Japanese motorcycle parts. And I got it for 45€ (including shipping)...

https://www.scooter-center.com/en/speedometer-premium-vespa-oe-105mm-px-lusso-t5-classic-my-2001-2011-120km/h-black-also-suitable-for-vespa-pk50/80-s-lusso-pk-xl-pk125-ets-3334070?number=3334070



Wed Aug 11, 2021 12:40 pm

Veni, Vidi, Posti
'15 GTS300, '86 PX125EFL, '66 VBB, '04 Ninja 250
Joined: 04 Apr 2013
Posts: 5147
Location: San Diego, CA
 
Veni, Vidi, Posti
'15 GTS300, '86 PX125EFL, '66 VBB, '04 Ninja 250
Joined: 04 Apr 2013
Posts: 5147
Location: San Diego, CA
Wed Aug 11, 2021 12:40 pm linkquote
Mine looks worse, but speedo king says he can renew it, he has a few for parts, they are rare over here.



Wed Aug 11, 2021 12:57 pm

Ossessionato
1979 P150X, 1983 P200E, 1988 T5, 1995 PX200E, 2011 Yamaha Fazer 600 S2
Joined: 02 Aug 2015
Posts: 2473
Location: Veria, Greece
 
Ossessionato
1979 P150X, 1983 P200E, 1988 T5, 1995 PX200E, 2011 Yamaha Fazer 600 S2
Joined: 02 Aug 2015
Posts: 2473
Location: Veria, Greece
Wed Aug 11, 2021 12:57 pm linkquote
I'll be braking apart my "Ratty" black PX for another project. I can send you the speedo, it just needs a new "glass" and bezel. It's in great shape inside. The "glass" is now worse than in the photo. It has turned yellow from the sun...





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Wed Aug 11, 2021 1:04 pm

Veni, Vidi, Posti
'15 GTS300, '86 PX125EFL, '66 VBB, '04 Ninja 250
Joined: 04 Apr 2013
Posts: 5147
Location: San Diego, CA
 
Veni, Vidi, Posti
'15 GTS300, '86 PX125EFL, '66 VBB, '04 Ninja 250
Joined: 04 Apr 2013
Posts: 5147
Location: San Diego, CA
Wed Aug 11, 2021 1:04 pm linkquote
wow cool!!!!!!! I will PM you my address and you can figure out some shipping cost, which may not be cheap but is sure to be worth it
Sun Aug 22, 2021 8:13 pm

Enthusiast
Joined: 14 Jan 2018
Posts: 86
Location: no matter where you go, there you are
 
Enthusiast
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Location: no matter where you go, there you are
Mon Aug 23, 2021 7:20 am

bodgemaster
63 GL, 76 Super (x2), 74 Primavera (x2), 79 P200, 06 Fly 150
Joined: 26 Sep 2013
Posts: 6109
Location: So Cal
 
bodgemaster
63 GL, 76 Super (x2), 74 Primavera (x2), 79 P200, 06 Fly 150
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Posts: 6109
Location: So Cal
Mon Aug 23, 2021 7:20 am linkquote
Who are we to argue with a $0.75 sticker?

Mon Aug 23, 2021 11:12 am

Ossessionato
76 Sprint V, 63 GL, 62 VBB, 05 Stella
Joined: 16 Jun 2011
Posts: 3785
Location: Nashville
 
Ossessionato
76 Sprint V, 63 GL, 62 VBB, 05 Stella
Joined: 16 Jun 2011
Posts: 3785
Location: Nashville
Mon Aug 23, 2021 11:12 am linkquote
You don't know that sticker wasn't made in Italy!
Mon Aug 23, 2021 2:31 pm

Addicted
1967 Granturismo 177, 1979 P200E, 1974 Primavera 125 Hooligans S/C Seattle/Austin
Joined: 11 Mar 2013
Posts: 646
Location: Austin, TX
 
Addicted
1967 Granturismo 177, 1979 P200E, 1974 Primavera 125 Hooligans S/C Seattle/Austin
Joined: 11 Mar 2013
Posts: 646
Location: Austin, TX
Mon Aug 23, 2021 2:31 pm linkquote
chandlerman wrote:
You don't know that sticker wasn't made in Italy!
It's not written in ITALICS an obvious fake.
Mon Aug 23, 2021 5:07 pm

Ossessionato
76 Sprint V, 63 GL, 62 VBB, 05 Stella
Joined: 16 Jun 2011
Posts: 3785
Location: Nashville
 
Ossessionato
76 Sprint V, 63 GL, 62 VBB, 05 Stella
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Posts: 3785
Location: Nashville
Mon Aug 23, 2021 5:07 pm linkquote
67GT125 wrote:
It's not written in ITALICS an obvious fake.
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Wed Sep 22, 2021 11:12 pm

Style Maven
'74 50s x3 '78 P200 E '84 Cosa '91 PK50XL2 '58 AllState '68 Sprint '80 50special and a '66(?) Super125
Joined: 22 Nov 2010
Posts: 8308
Location: seattle/athens
 
Style Maven
'74 50s x3 '78 P200 E '84 Cosa '91 PK50XL2 '58 AllState '68 Sprint '80 50special and a '66(?) Super125
Joined: 22 Nov 2010
Posts: 8308
Location: seattle/athens
Wed Sep 22, 2021 11:12 pm linkquote
1963 Vespa 150
classic vintage motor scooter in original blue color





What is this? LML motor looks like.



263 or 239 miles, which is it and Indo headset?

EBay here: https://www.ebay.com/itm/154617740640
Wed Sep 22, 2021 11:38 pm

Ossessionato
1979 P150X, 1983 P200E, 1988 T5, 1995 PX200E, 2011 Yamaha Fazer 600 S2
Joined: 02 Aug 2015
Posts: 2473
Location: Veria, Greece
 
Ossessionato
1979 P150X, 1983 P200E, 1988 T5, 1995 PX200E, 2011 Yamaha Fazer 600 S2
Joined: 02 Aug 2015
Posts: 2473
Location: Veria, Greece
Wed Sep 22, 2021 11:38 pm linkquote
Tunnel looks a bit fishy???



Thu Sep 23, 2021 4:57 am

Hooked
1958 Allstate 177VMC, 2005 70cc Yamaha Vino
Joined: 23 Aug 2020
Posts: 499
Location: Philadelphia
 
Hooked
1958 Allstate 177VMC, 2005 70cc Yamaha Vino
Joined: 23 Aug 2020
Posts: 499
Location: Philadelphia
Thu Sep 23, 2021 4:57 am linkquote
Don't think that's a proper bodge honestly. It was definitely in an accident and the frame is bent though
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