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These Icon Pursuit gloves were new & $55 at the beginning of the hot season (April)
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The perf leather is MUCH more comfortable in the ridiculous current weather than any substitute I've tried ...but it doesn't seem to be standing up well to daily soaking

My confidence in these gloves is limited and it looks like the hot season here is going to last at least another month

Soooo... any ideas?
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Can't compete with your SC weather, but for our occasional hot days, I like my ventilated Corazzo Carbones
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Join the club.

No matter what brand or type I buy, I always destroy a pair of warm-weather gloves every summer.
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Can't compete with your SC weather, but for our occasional hot days, I like my ventilated Corazzo Carbones
+1

I can compete with the SC weather, but maybe not the humidity. By the way, the Carbones are made of fabric and other synthetic materials. Maybe they would hold up better.
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60yoMod wrote:
Can't compete with your SC weather, but for our occasional hot days, I like my ventilated Corazzo Carbones
+1

I can compete with the SC weather, but maybe not the humidity. By the way, the Carbones are made of fabric and other synthetic materials. Maybe they would hold up better.
I'm in Dallas and use the Carbones. They're holding up and don't seem hot as they have some venting on the palms. Incidentally, I see the O P uses perforated leather. My first glove I used was from bicycling, a Trek fingerless big weave hemp & leather. I ended up with tan dots that looked like freckles.
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where did you buy those gloves?

i know cycle gear will let you return almost anything. hell they're letting my boyfriend return his boots after like 7 months simply because he's a bit tired of them and wants something different
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That's outrageous! I have a pair of the same gloves, but in black, that I've worn exclusively since 2007! That's 4 summers of riding with them - 07, 08, 09, 10 - and the palms are *nothing* like that. I wonder if you just got one from a bad batch? I know what hot, humid summers are all about - I lived in the south for 18 years, and I know that we don't have that kind of weather here in the Bay Area. That said, 4 years of solid wear vs. 4 months and the gloves are worn out still seems like something's amiss.

In terms of alternatives, I was just at San Jose Vespa, and they had quite a few gloves from Scorpion. While I didn't try any of them on, I own 2 of their helmets, and I find them to be of very high quality (apples to oranges, I know). They had a short, mesh glove that looked very similar to the Pursuit from Icon that you might want to check out.

I think there was another offering there from Guild that might fit the bill, as well, but all of the above were black leather mesh- not the lighter color that you have.
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My perforated Pursuit gloves did the same after a few months. I'm now on my second pair of these. The first pair last just over 18 months of daily commuter wear. Lots of drenchings and dryings took a toll. One of the palms eventually wore through. Persuasive review on Webbikeworld

http://www.webbikeworld.com/motorcycle-gloves/roadgear-carbon-maxx-gloves/

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I went with a pair of Alpinestars Stella SMX-4 gloves. They're part leather, part mesh. They've held up extremely well, and the only signs of wear after several months have been the dirt that gets on them. I just wipe them down with a damp cloth and dish soap. I really hate wearing gloves, and these are tolerable and cool for me even on very hot days.
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I'm surprised.

I have those same gloves, color and all, working on my 3rd season. Granted NYC might not be as intense weather wise as SC, but I wear mine rain or shine April-Sept/Oct.

3 years and still rockin', surprised they failed you so fast...
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Thank you, guys!
Thank you all for your helpful comments
I was throwing quite a tantrum about this and it was quite soothing to get some perspective

I will not be trying to return the gloves--I got them from NewEnough
and they always warn you not to get leather gloves if you're going to get them wet repeatedly

Besides, I noticed as soon as I got them
that they were more cheaply made than my husband's gold/tan ones from 2007
You can see this below (They are the same size, I intentionally got mine big)
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The leather in my 2010 gray ones is thinner and lower quality
and the holes in my gray ones are bigger & closer together, among other differences

Some of those that you've recommended look pretty great!

For the Corazzo Carbone folks:
* What happens if both your hands & the gloves are wet, can you still get them on easily?

* And are they still comfortable?
(I've been finding a lot of man-made materials feel clammy & unpleasant when wet)

For Jimbo:
* Does it bother you that there's no perfs on the palm?
Those sure look promising, otherwise
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I wear the same gloves from 40F (4C) up to the highest temps we get here (~118F). Right now it's 7pm and 108F (42C). I use Deerskin work gloves. $25/pair and I go through 2 pair a year typically. Very good protection (but not armored) and my hands never feel overly warm in the summer. I don't like fingerless gloves because when it gets over 110F my fingernails will feel like they are on fire.

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if your riding everyday you need at least 3 pair of gloves to rotate them. that way they can fully air out after each day. Wet or damp gloves take a real beating when worn again the next day. Be sure to hang them up like on a hanger with a cloths pin and somewhere where they can get decent airflow to dry out. same goes with riding boots you need a couple pair to keep them rotated also. and not a bad idea on the helmets too.

edit most helmet liners can be removed for washing every couple of weeks in this hot humid weather.
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I don't mind the lack of perforation in the palm. When I replaced the Icon Pursuit with these, I didn't notice a difference in temperature, just the beefiness of the material. They must be warmer with the extra material though. I call them my gorilla mits.

Temperatures here typically max out in the high-90's and on average are in the 80s mid-day. It rains regularly, but is generally not humid. The gloves take in a lot of air and stay comfortable, but wet gloves in full sun suck whatever the brand. I've never had the urge to rip them off and go naked though.
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if your riding everyday you need at least 3 pair of gloves to rotate them. that way they can fully air out after each day. Wet or damp gloves take a real beating when worn again the next day. Be sure to hang them up like on a hanger with a cloths pin and somewhere where they can get decent airflow to dry out. same goes with riding boots you need a couple pair to keep them rotated also. and not a bad idea on the helmets too.

edit most helmet liners can be removed for washing every couple of weeks in this hot humid weather.
I think that depends a lot on where you live. I grew up in TN and understand where you are coming from. Things there really need time to dry out because of the humidity. In the desert southwest, however, it's really not required. My boots, gloves and helmet are always dry each morning (I've been a daily, no car, rider for over 11 years now).

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60yoMod wrote:
Can't compete with your SC weather, but for our occasional hot days, I like my ventilated Corazzo Carbones
+1

I can compete with the SC weather, but maybe not the humidity. By the way, the Carbones are made of fabric and other synthetic materials. Maybe they would hold up better.
Owned a pair for 2mos and they started fraying and coming apart at the seams!!!
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if your riding everyday you need at least 3 pair of gloves to rotate them. that way they can fully air out after each day. Wet or damp gloves take a real beating when worn again the next day. Be sure to hang them up like on a hanger with a cloths pin and somewhere where they can get decent airflow to dry out. same goes with riding boots you need a couple pair to keep them rotated also. and not a bad idea on the helmets too.

edit most helmet liners can be removed for washing every couple of weeks in this hot humid weather.
I think that depends a lot on where you live. I grew up in TN and understand where you are coming from. Things there really need time to dry out because of the humidity. In the desert southwest, however, it's really not required. My boots, gloves and helmet are always dry each morning (I've been a daily, no car, rider for over 11 years now).

-Craig
you need to keep moisture in your stuff cause it will dry out and crack up on you. do you use a conditioner on your gloves and jackets?
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if your riding everyday you need at least 3 pair of gloves to rotate them. that way they can fully air out after each day. Wet or damp gloves take a real beating when worn again the next day.
Thank you Old as Dirt!! This is the piece I was missing

I used to bring them inside to dry them out
(the humidity here has been insane--like a sauna outside)
It was only when I stopped doing that that the gloves started cracking

Now... how to persuade the husband I need 3 (count them 3!) pairs of $50 gloves ( Laughing emoticon )
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if your riding everyday you need at least 3 pair of gloves to rotate them. that way they can fully air out after each day. Wet or damp gloves take a real beating when worn again the next day.
Thank you Old as Dirt!! This is the piece I was missing

I used to bring them inside to dry them out
(the humidity here has been insane--like a sauna outside)
It was only when I stopped doing that that the gloves started cracking

Now... how to persuade the husband I need 3 (count them 3!) pairs of $50 gloves ( Laughing emoticon )
just order them and when they show up say oh looky I got some new gloves. Honey do you need anything? Laughing emoticon
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Re: Thank you, guys!
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Besides, I noticed as soon as I got them
that they were more cheaply made than my husband's gold/tan ones from 2007
All the more reason to pitch a bitch! You saw a product made a repeat buy and got a substandard version! Icon supplier obviously changed materials and Icon should be expected to stand up! This isn't the local one man scooter shop you're asking to man up! $55 should get a decent glove and my Pursuit gloves are VERY well made. Sheesh, even look at the stitching differences.... Wha? emoticon

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Re: Thank you, guys!
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For the Corazzo Carbone folks:
* What happens if both your hands & the gloves are wet, can you still get them on easily?
They are very easy to get on. I rode with them sopping wet the entire time at Amerivespa. Because of the material, they dry out pretty fast once moving. However, sitting in my hotel room they would be still be damp when I put them back on after a bathroom break. They were always dry the next morning. They don't really hold moisture like leather does.
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* And are they still comfortable?
(I've been finding a lot of man-made materials feel clammy & unpleasant when wet)
I think they are very comfortable. They are more of a cloth kind of feel, so they feel soft. I don't find them clammy, because they air out really fast once moving. I also like the big air vents on the knuckles; they work really well.

I also use them in the winter when it's above 30F. I just put a ski glove liner in the inside. Then I have a pair of winter, water-proof gloves for the real winter, below 30F. They are not very comfortable, because they are a little stiff.
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60yoMod wrote:
Can't compete with your SC weather, but for our occasional hot days, I like my ventilated Corazzo Carbones
+1

I can compete with the SC weather, but maybe not the humidity. By the way, the Carbones are made of fabric and other synthetic materials. Maybe they would hold up better.
Owned a pair for 2mos and they started fraying and coming apart at the seams!!!
I had a pair for 9 months without any problems. However, they were a little big when I bought them. Once I finally realized this, I bought a smaller size in February. The velcro closure tab came off on the way to Amerivespa in May. Luckily, I had the old pair to give to someone. I took them to their booth without a receipt, and they exchanged them, no questions asked.

Did you contact Corazzo to see about replacing them? I have heard and experienced that they really back their products. Every company is bound to have a bad batch now and then; it's how they handle these problems by which they should be judged.
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TurtleGT wrote:
Besides, I noticed as soon as I got them
that they were more cheaply made than my husband's gold/tan ones from 2007
All the more reason to pitch a bitch! You saw a product made a repeat buy and got a substandard version! Icon supplier obviously changed materials and Icon should be expected to stand up!
Thanks, Tom
But in case you missed it, I'm already pitching a bitch Laughing emoticon

It's just that my technique is big side-by-side pictures showing how much their quality has gone down in 3 years,
and posted to a major forum yet

Plus I probably have been riding with them nearly continually wet for about a month
It's a bit late to ask for my money back, I think
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have been riding with them nearly continually wet for about a month
It's a bit late to ask for my money back, I think
I was thinking replacements and I thought you'd developed a tougher side with all those BBS posts....
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Re: Thank you, guys!
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louisq wrote:
TurtleGT wrote:
Besides, I noticed as soon as I got them
that they were more cheaply made than my husband's gold/tan ones from 2007
All the more reason to pitch a bitch! You saw a product made a repeat buy and got a substandard version! Icon supplier obviously changed materials and Icon should be expected to stand up!
Thanks, Tom
But in case you missed it, I'm already pitching a bitch Laughing emoticon

It's just that my technique is big side-by-side pictures showing how much their quality has gone down in 3 years,
and posted to a major forum yet

Plus I probably have been riding with them nearly continually wet for about a month
It's a bit late to ask for my money back, I think
it's never too late to ask. worst case scenario they say no.
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TurtleGT wrote:
have been riding with them nearly continually wet for about a month
It's a bit late to ask for my money back, I think
I was thinking replacements and I thought you'd developed a tougher side with all those BBS posts....
I have, indeed
(My new goal is to be an "equal opportunity irritant")

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I didn't catch that you meant replacements, sorry about that

Frankly, I really should have sent them back with the tags still on them
But their perf leather was still a lot more comfortable wet
than any of the other really ventilated gloves I've tried

Time for a bit more glove testing, I think
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I have these ones and they are wonderful for really hot summer temperatures:

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Link to some webshop: http://www.extremesupply.com/product/DNSARKSRGLV.html

They are called "Dainese Air Kaiser Street".

"Extremely aerated, this glove with palm reinforced with Pittards leather is suited to long days in the saddle during hot weather."

With mesh between the fingers there is a lot of air circulation, and the quality of the leather is quite high.
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Nice!
I like those!

I've ordered these (cheaper) ones to try:
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But this time they go back
if I see them and think the quality is flaky!

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