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Got back from vacation and took a ride tonight. The first few miles were great then I noticed the check engine light was on. I pulled over and it went out. Started off at about half throttle and within a few seconds it came on again. Rolled off the throttle and after a few seconds of coasting it went off. Took off slower and again within a few seconds it came on again. Stopped and you guessed it...it went off. My first thought was oil but the oil level was good. Anyone have an idea?
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Re: Check engine light
stickyfrog wrote: Got back from vacation and took a ride tonight. The first few miles were great then I noticed the check engine light was on. I pulled over and it went out. Started off at about half throttle and within a few seconds it came on again. Rolled off the throttle and after a few seconds of coasting it went off. Took off slower and again within a few seconds it came on again. Stopped and you guessed it...it went off. My first thought was oil but the oil level was good. Anyone have an idea? now seriously. when was the last time you reset the maintenace icons. in the service manual on page 25 of the elect sect. which letter light are you getting? |
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I have a momentary check engine light that comes on after startup and disappears after the first couple minutes or first couple accelerate/cruise/stop cycles.
I haven't figured it out, but judging by the air filter it didn't have a proper 15,000km service by dealer before I owned it, so I don't know if it's a system reminder. My maintenance icon isn't displayed though. Because it's a momentary check light it doesn't register an error code that can be read, so it's a bit of a mystery for now to me A friend who has had severl Ducati's, one of his 749's a couple bikes back had a similar symptom, he never had a problem nor found what it was, and he had his bike serviced by a Ducati specialist a couple hours away who services/deals/builds turbo/metho/nitro drag bikes all Ducati so figured if they couldn't nail it down, I'm not going to tear my hair out. |
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Check the radiator fluid, just to be sure. If low, sensor could be heating up. guessing.
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OAD may be on to something. I left the flashing wrench on since I did my own maintenance and just never got around to resetting. Now the wrench is gone. hmmm. Will have to try it when I get home.
I will check the radiator level too. I had a thought this morning that maybe it is the evap system that I have not yet disconnected. I know the check engine light is on in my truck and my code reader says it is the evap or whatever trucks have. |
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Check the voltage at the battery when you rev the engine. If it is more than 15v at about 3-4k rpm, then your voltage regulator is out. Common cause of EML illumination on GTSs. Yours seems to fit this pattern, as it seems to go out when the revs drop?
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Thanks for that. I will check that too. Now where did I put that dang multimeter?
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stickyfrog wrote: Thanks for that. I will check that too. Now where did I put that dang multimeter? |
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LOL found it (multimeter). I think DougL may have gotten it. First I checked th coolant level and it is fine. Before I tried a reset I found my multimeter and checked. At the battery at idle (around 1300 rpm) it showed 14V. At 4000rpm it showed 18-19V. Dang. Anyone have a spare voltage regulator?
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I have a spare for the 500, do not know if it is the same. You would be welcome to it I suppose, but probably get one just as fast closer by.
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Rob In Denver wrote: I have a spare for the 500, do not know if it is the same. You would be welcome to it I suppose, but probably get one just as fast closer by. |
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Glad you found it. It seemed obvious when I'd heard the same story so many times before.
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Thanks for helping me pin it down fast DougL.
Appreciate the offer Rob and will buy yours if I can't find one closer. Now to dig into the manual to find the pesky little bugger. |
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Brilliant diagnosis by DougL "the fixer".
Any silver bullets for my startup check that disappears after a few minutes, typically a couple accel/cruise/decel/stop cycles? |
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Re: Not a cheap part
lloyd123 wrote: Athens Scooter sells the voltage regulator - 58086R - but it costs $156.75 - not something you'd want to replace just on speculation alone. Piaggio part number from Athens is 58086R-37 sip's number is PI5806R so I guess it is a match. Then I found this http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Piaggio-MP3-250-400-500-Voltage-Regulator-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQitemZ200507325270QQptZMotorcyclesQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories#ht_500wt_1182 on ebay and I am guessing it is not oem because it looks nothing like the oem and appears to have no cables. I am curious lloyd123 about what you mean by speculation. I have done a search here and found numerous threads about this since I confirmed what DougL suspected that all have the same symptoms. Do you think it could be something else? ![]() ⚠️ Last edited by stickyfrog on Wed, 18 Aug 2010 20:31:26 +0000; edited 1 time
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I think he's just suggesting "be sure" before you fork out for the reg/rec.
I don't know how to bump start the Fuoco, but when diagnosing my cold start problem and looking at the battery voltage, I thought it would be really useful to have a volt meter on the dash. There's a thread about monitoring ambient temperatures, I'd like to see one start up with people monitoring their voltage |
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deepfraught wrote: I think he's just suggesting "be sure" before you fork out for the reg/rec. |
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Hmmm, probably a good thought. Wish my dealer was closer. I have to think though that if I am getting 18V at 4000rpm when it should be being regulated to no more that 14.5V then that would seem a good indicator that the VR must be tango uniform...wouldn't it?
I am no expert but here is how I see it. Alternator (generator) puts out voltage depending on rpms, the higher the rpms the higher the voltage. The regulator stops any voltage higher than 14.5 volts from getting to the battery for charging purposes. I imagine that there is some device that monitors the battery condition to prevent overcharging (similar to a charge controller in a photo-voltaic set up) but even if this failed max voltage at the battery should still be no higher than 14.5 volts if the regulator is working right? |
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I agree with prudence. But this can be none other than the VR. The stator puts out 30v and this is stepped down. 14 at idle and 18 and 19 at revs will FRY your battery in double quick time. Bite the bullet and buy one. Quickly.
Classic symptoms. Back me up JimC! Oh and apparently the part is made by Ducati. Cheaper from a Ducati dealer apparently. Do a search for ducati and voltage.... |
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Re: Not a cheap part
stickyfrog wrote: I am curious lloyd123 about what you mean by speculation. I have done a search here and found numerous threads about this since I confirmed what DougL suspected that all have the same symptoms. Do you think it could be something else? |
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OH, another "spare part" to put in my garage!
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This is interesting. Found it while searching Ducati voltage regulators.
http://668tech.laverda-nz.org/regulator.html Quote: One of the things with these regulators is that they are in a position where they get too hot, under the tail end, no air there. A modification Gijs van Dijk often makes (also to mine) is to put the regulator up to the front, right up in front of the cylinder heads, so that it can enjoy fresh air. |
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stickyfrog wrote: This is interesting. Found it while searching Ducati voltage regulators. http://668tech.laverda-nz.org/regulator.html Quote: One of the things with these regulators is that they are in a position where they get too hot, under the tail end, no air there. A modification Gijs van Dijk often makes (also to mine) is to put the regulator up to the front, right up in front of the cylinder heads, so that it can enjoy fresh air. |
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nope went out for about a half hour and explored and have yet to find it. mostly focused on the right side. ran out of light so will have to wait till tomorrow.
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stickyfrog wrote: nope went out for about a half hour and explored and have yet to find it. mostly focused on the right side. ran out of light so will have to wait till tomorrow. |
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DougL wrote: I agree with prudence. But this can be none other than the VR. The stator puts out 30v and this is stepped down. 14 at idle and 18 and 19 at revs will FRY your battery in double quick time. Bite the bullet and buy one. Quickly. Classic symptoms. Back me up JimC! Oh and apparently the part is made by Ducati. Cheaper from a Ducati dealer apparently. Do a search for ducati and voltage.... The last few years makes me think the average lifetime of a VR is about 30,000 miles - on almost any bike. They have a particularly harsh electronic environment - and some will fail early, some bang on the 30,000, some never. But for almost all riders, it's 50:50 whether you'll need a new one while you own your steed. Just a reality check. |
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John just got to thinking about this. A voltage regulator is a votlage regulator. Why not take one for say a harley and use it. You would just have to figure out the 5 pins and maybe make an adapter. but it would be alot cheaper than a piaggio part. I saw an accel one on ebay for a harley for around $15.
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old as dirt wrote: stickyfrog wrote: nope went out for about a half hour and explored and have yet to find it. mostly focused on the right side. ran out of light so will have to wait till tomorrow. |
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old as dirt wrote: John just got to thinking about this. A voltage regulator is a votlage regulator. Why not take one for say a harley and use it. You would just have to figure out the 5 pins and maybe make an adapter. but it would be alot cheaper than a piaggio part. I saw an accel one on ebay for a harley for around $15. |
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old as dirt wrote: if you look at the workshop manual under elct sys page 7 you can see it. it is in front of the handle bar area. I bet if you take the R rear light out you'll see it in there tucked out of sight... ![]() |
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This thread may also be of interest...
http://www.gtsownersclub.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=3959 |
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As a point of interest:
I found one of the three yellow wires going to the famous Piaggio 'brown connector,' on the wiring loom. One of the three 10/12GA wires was pinched between the rear quarter panel and frame and had worn through the plastic sheathing and worn through the yellow jacket, and worn through about 1/2 the copper. It was very close to where the seatback frame bolts to the main frame. I do not recall if I took a photo. I'll be able to check a little later. Not sure if mine was a special feature from the factory or what, but maybe something to look at before dropping $ or £ on it.... |
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DougL wrote: old as dirt wrote: if you look at the workshop manual under elct sys page 7 you can see it. it is in front of the handle bar area. I bet if you take the R rear light out you'll see it in there tucked out of sight... |
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DougL wrote: old as dirt wrote: if you look at the workshop manual under elct sys page 7 you can see it. it is in front of the handle bar area. I bet if you take the R rear light out you'll see it in there tucked out of sight... |
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Finally got it off. Wished I would have seen Zinfan's pics first. Here are some pics I took.
![]() Approximate area where the VR is located.
![]() No way to get to it from here.
![]() 4 screws to remove to take off the rear piece.
![]() Removed the right light assembly.
![]() Yep you can see it with the light removed but you can't get at it. Remove the two screws indicated and slide the panel toward the rear.
![]() One of the wire groups was doubled over on itself and pinch in this black zip tie. Nothing appeared damaged though.
![]() The offending VR lying submissively on the garage floor. Who's your daddy?
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