Modern Vespa

i saw a gts 250..looked nice in the ad...but found it was not a ie
I think the ie is fuel injection. and i was wondering if it made enough of a difference for me to keep looking for the 250ie gtsie or gtvie
thank you

There is only one model and both terms are used to describe the GTS 250cc fuel injected model.

In other words, there are no carburetted GTS250s. All are fuel injected.

Same with the GTV 250. Any Vespa 250 is an "ie" fuel injected one.

yup , all IE's , if you want no IE go with a GT200

It is good to hear that all gts and gtv 250 of all years are fuel injected. I wrote to a person that had advertised a gts 250...i asked if it was an ie and she said no. I thought ie meant fuel injection....if not....are there models that are not ie and if so what is the difference? thank you

The person was wrong. If it's a GTS or GTV 250, it's fuel injected.

Yes, ie means fuel injection. Also, in common discussion "ie" is rarely affixed to the name. The only people who refer to it as "250ie" are people who just bought their scooter.

Many people buy a scooter or automobile and never even know the actual model designation or whether or not it's carbed or fuel injected. As everyone has posted, any stock, Vespa 250cc engine is fuel injected: No exceptions.

I love when there is no doubt. thank you all for clearing this up.
I just sold my last motorcycle. bought a coach ( motorhome ) and want to put something smaller than the large bike on the rear of the motorhome. I just received a Versahaul with ramp.
I am on Eastern Long Island NY until nov...then i go back to Florida.
I figured a used 250 would work. I am concerned about the small wheels...but then i read about riders that took their vespa long distances and i like to hear that.
I will search here on long island and parts of Connecticut ( ferry across the water) and if i cannot...then i am certain i will find something when i return to florida.
As i look i do see other brands that look good too....but the Vespa charisma has a bit of a hold on me.....although i never rode one.

thank you all again for your comforting information....
Ride safe.....and enjoy

Yes all vespa 250s are IE engines, only a few select machines got the piaggio quasar 250 engine with a carb....

The bit that confuses a lot of people is a piaggio with EFI marked on it, means its carb'd... but with EFI technologys ignition

Bloody italians trying to confuse us.

Yep - the new GT200 CDI was marked EFI - which I think is just the manufacturer. And that is definitely carb'd.

One other thing: GTS's might be heavier than you think. With the Versahauler and other incidentals you will be aproaching 500lbs. Make sure your hitch can havhle that much toung weight. Also search "Canyon Dancer".

Indeed correct... The newer carb models also have a diagnostic connector like the Fi models, so you can interrogate the ignition and immobiliser systems... Which is ultra helpful at times...

thanks...but now you got this perfectionist concerned again....When i called this person and asked if her GTS was ie or fuel injection and she said no. How do i know she is wrong? the scooter is a distance away from me so i am not going to take a very long ride. thanks

Okay. I'm officially giving up.

thanks for the info re canyon dancer...
i will look closer at them...but the Versahaul is set up with the tie down points closer to the inside of the handle bars. it usually is not good for the bike to be tied toward the handle bar ends.
I use straps and then the hook through the strap. I have never tied a scooter so i need to take a closer look at best place to tie down.
also the motorhome that the versahaul will be on can handle way more weight. It is a diesel pusher. You can put a hydraulic life and a full size dresser/cruising bike on it without worrying about the weight ( again...that is on a diesel pusher ) thanks for the info...greatly appreciated

Piaggio has used a carburetted 250 in other scooters namely the BV and the Derbi GP1. All Vespa GTS 250s are fuel injected, no matter what the (ignorant) owner is telling you.

And the Piaggio X9, X8, Xevo IIRC.

First of all, carburetted bikes are not bad or inefficient machines. If you bought a GT200 (a carburetted scooter) it would be a great bike.

Second of all, the seller WAS wrong. There is no question. They are just an idiot. Tons of people buy fancy things and don't know what makes them tick. If this person is selling a GTS (any model: 250, 300, Super, whatever) it IS "i.e."

Don't sweat it. We have people on here who know more about these machines than many mechanics do. A GTS is a fuel injected scooter, and as fast and efficient as you could want out of a machine of that size You'll love its nimble handling relative to larger-wheeled MCs. Welcome to the site!

As others have said GTS/GTV are all "ie".

I know you said you're on Eastern LI and Northvale NJ ins't exactly close, but Alan at Metro Scooter has a bunch of quality used GTS/GTVs. He's a great guy and actually delivers to NYC for free.
http://www.metroscooter.us/inventory/Inventory.html

i thank everyone....this is a great site...and i am close to getting my Vespa. if all goes well i will have it this week.
re ie and fuel injected 250's.

According to Piaggio HQ. Not all 250's are fuel injected. If it was purchased from a dealer in this country it should be. If it was brought from Italy it might not be fuel injected... So...best way...get the VIN # and Call Piaggio.

that is the info i got from the people at Piaggio in new york HQ.

There is always a surprise somewhere.

After i get it...i most likely will want some accessories. I want rear crash bars and maybe a front luggage rack ( it comes with the vespa trunk and rest pad.
i might want a side stand
it also comes with a windshield not sure which one..i believe it is a vespa...next size up from the real small one.

Now i have to find out about the after market...since i hear that some products are better than vespa....

i hope to get good feedback from all of you....
and thank you all for being there....take care...good luck and ride safe

Any Vespa 250 purchased in the United States is fuel injected. Period. The only way you can get one shipped from Italy is to have Piaggio ship it to a dealer, and to do that, it's got to be US DOT approved. All US DOT approved Vespa 250s are fuel injected.

As others have stated, there are a handful of non fuel injected 250 Piaggio scooters in the US. But absolutely none of them are Vespas. If the Vespa is a 250, and it's in the US, it's fuel injected. End of story. Regardless of what a clueless seller may try to tell you.

Piaggio is the parent company of Vespa, and releases scooters under both the Piaggio and the Vespa names.

Yep - as I have just learned on the internetz researching my new-to-me scoot, 2007 and before BV 250s are carbed, as well as Scarabeo 250s.

IamGadget: I don't understand why you keep beating this dead horse. You're either trolling and screwing with us or you're refusing to understand. You have been told repeatedly that if it's a Vespa and it's a 250 then it's fuel injected. But, for some reason, you keep asking the same question. This forum has a zillion members and not one person has told you that there are any Vespa scooters with the 250 engine that are not fuel injected.
**One more time: If you buy a Piaggio BV250. some were carbed BUT
ALL Vespa GTS models (which were the only ones with the 250cc engine) are fuel injected.

The people that I dealt with on another issue who work for Piaggio/Vespa in New York didn't know squat about the products that they sell. This forum is full of good knowledge so either accept it or please quit asking the same damned question and getting the same answer .............and attempting to prove us wrong. Thank you in advance for your cooperation.

As XLR8 says, this is no guarantee for accuracy, by all accounts, and in this case is plain wrong. Italy never had non injected 250cc Vespas. Ever.