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i am on eastern long island NY....looking for a 250.
i would like oponions. and differences between a 250 GTS. and a 250 GTV
thank you
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hello all
i am on eastern long island NY....looking for a 250. i would like oponions. and differences between a 250 GTS. and a 250 GTV thank you |
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They both use the same body and the same engine. The GTV has the headlight on the front fender and does not have a plastic cover over the handlebars to give it a retro-look. The GTV also has a leather, two piece seat. The instruments are also different and the GTV has chrome wheels. But the mechanics and basic body are identical. We have one of each.
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The basic scooters are the same. Style and accessories are in the eye of the beholder so you pick. (In my opinion, the difference in cost is mostly driven by that beautiful 2-piece leather seat on the GTV. Some people like it it, some don't. Try it and be sure you do.)
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Re: 250 GTS or GTV? which one
This is easy
Go sit on both of them and buy the one that calls to you |
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Yea, difference is just cosmetic style thing. Choose what catches your eye - they will perform the same.
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Simples. Buy whichever one that isn't that horrible pale green colour
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If you are over 6', you will most likely need to have a GTS seat regardless of whether you choose the GTV or GTS.
The GTV seat does not allow you to scoot far enough back from the handlebars to be comfortable if you are tall. Not true in all cases, but this is true as a general rule. |
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HotboxDeluxe wrote: Simples. Buy whichever one that isn't that horrible pale green colour ![]() I just passed your 50cc scooter three times while typing this. ![]() |
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HotboxDeluxe wrote: Simples. Buy whichever one that isn't that horrible pale green colour..... If so, piss off ![]() ![]() |
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While I admire the style and classy look of a GTV, I think that the seat on the GTS is far superior due to the fact that you can move yourself around on it more. This reduces rider fatigue on longer trips. If you plan on doing any touring with the GTV or are a taller guy, the GTS will suit you better, or buying a GTS seat to put on the GTV would also work.
The other obvious difference, which some of the owners of both could perhaps comment on, is the difference in height of the two headlights. Do you get better visibility at night with the light mounted higher, as on the GTS, or lower, as on the GTV? |
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stinkyjones wrote: If you are over 6', you will most likely need to have a GTS seat regardless of whether you choose the GTV or GTS. The GTV seat does not allow you to scoot far enough back from the handlebars to be comfortable if you are tall. Not true in all cases, but this is true as a general rule. also the lower headlight make a difference to some as well . |
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All about the looks and which one catches your eye. You can always pick up a GTS seat cheap if you find the GTV seat doesn't cut it for you. Good luck and post some pics when you get one.
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HotboxDeluxe wrote: Simples. Buy whichever one that isn't that horrible pale green colour ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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They all look better in person than online...
I remember thinking I didn't care what vespa i got, so long as it wasn't the tan GTV, but in person i think it kicks ass.
I'm not sure how much of a difference the headlight height makes, it's no more than the difference between a car's and a small suv's lights, but i know it's been mentioned here before. Plus the girls say they like my GTV because it looks classic, but they're probably just figuring out clever ways to complement me right..? I'd say get a new chocolate GTV 300, and replace the stock saddle with a tan ostrich-hide one. |
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mogeewogee wrote: stinkyjones wrote: If you are over 6', you will most likely need to have a GTS seat regardless of whether you choose the GTV or GTS. The GTV seat does not allow you to scoot far enough back from the handlebars to be comfortable if you are tall. Not true in all cases, but this is true as a general rule. also the lower headlight make a difference to some as well . It's the same height as my car headlight (and most all other "car-like" autos for that matter. It illuminates the road and your surroundings quite well. Many people argue that that cagers can't see you as well when you are behind them at a light, and my belief is that if you are relying on them to see you in the center mirror vs. the side mirrors, you are probably not stopped in the optimal area for an emergency escape. I'm much more concerned about the people behind me at a light than I am the guy in front of me suddenly throwing it in reverse and gunning it. |
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stinkyjones wrote: I'm much more concerned about the people behind me at a light than I am the guy in front of me suddenly throwing it in reverse and gunning it. -My toes stick out of my cast enough to shift. |
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I installed headlight modulators on all of our PTW's. Interestingly enough, the GTV is almost twice as conspicuous when it's coming at you with the headlight modulating than the GTS. My neighbor first mentioned this when we came home from riding one day so I had my wife ride both scooters from the end of the street towards me and there was a marked difference. I don't ride in the dark on any PTW so I can't tell you if there is any difference between the GTS/GTV when riding at night.
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I don't care for fenderlights, aesthetically. You can't go wrong with either if you choose one you are physically comfortable on and enjoy its appearance.
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xantufrog wrote: I don't care for fenderlights, aesthetically. You can't go wrong with either if you choose one you are physically comfortable on and enjoy its appearance. You don't like them aesthetically, and I applaud your opinion. The truth of the matter, they're the same scoot with different shiny bits in different locations, and will perform in an identical manner. It's all about aesthetics (save the split seat handicap for the taller folks) in this argument. |
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stinkyjones wrote: The reason I commented in the manner I did is because these threads tend to attract one or more posters with absolutely no experience riding a GTV in either light or dark soapboxing on the rubbish fenderlight and how worthless it is at both seeing and being seen. You don't like them aesthetically, and I applaud your opinion. I was just addressing the original question of "what should I get" - saying what I'd go with personally, and throwing my lot in with the "it's mostly about aesthetics and whether the seat is a problem" crowd For what it's worth, it's not the GTV styling I dislike, specifically. I don't care for the venerable Faro Basso either. It's truly just a personal preference thing... the handlebars look so lonely to me without an eye on the front |
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xantufrog wrote: I wasn't addressing your posts Stinky - having never driven a GTV I can't comment on the utility of a fenderlight or not. I was just happy to have someone say that they don't like the way it looks vs. making a bunch of stuff up. |
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Get the GTS, Some kid is gonna steal that fender light,
Then what will you do? Besides the GTS is faster. ![]() |
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JLB wrote: While I admire the style and classy look of a GTV, I think that the seat on the GTS is far superior due to the fact that you can move yourself around on it more. This reduces rider fatigue on longer trips. If you plan on doing any touring with the GTV or are a taller guy, the GTS will suit you better, or buying a GTS seat to put on the GTV would also work. The other obvious difference, which some of the owners of both could perhaps comment on, is the difference in height of the two headlights. Do you get better visibility at night with the light mounted higher, as on the GTS, or lower, as on the GTV? ![]() |
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Big Foot wrote: Get the GTS, Some kid is gonna steal that fender light, Then what will you do? "if itll run without it cut it off... then satin black the fucker and please keep the chrome in the bathroom." --T5Bitsa69 |
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Pepy27 wrote: I ride a GTV with a GTS seat. ![]() Now that is a Super seat, Great in the corners and oh so firm. |
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XLR8 wrote: They both use the same body and the same engine. The GTV has the headlight on the front fender and does not have a plastic cover over the handlebars to give it a retro-look. The GTV also has a leather, two piece seat. The instruments are also different and the GTV has chrome wheels. But the mechanics and basic body are identical. We have one of each. |
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that green can be beautiful to some
HotboxDeluxe wrote: Simples. Buy whichever one that isn't that horrible pale green colour ![]() |
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seat gts or gtv
stinkyjones wrote: If you are over 6', you will most likely need to have a GTS seat regardless of whether you choose the GTV or GTS. The GTV seat does not allow you to scoot far enough back from the handlebars to be comfortable if you are tall. Not true in all cases, but this is true as a general rule. |
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Big Foot wrote: Get the GTS, Some kid is gonna steal that fender light, Then what will you do? Besides the GTS is faster. ![]() thanks for the heads up |
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Pepy27 wrote: JLB wrote: While I admire the style and classy look of a GTV, I think that the seat on the GTS is far superior due to the fact that you can move yourself around on it more. This reduces rider fatigue on longer trips. If you plan on doing any touring with the GTV or are a taller guy, the GTS will suit you better, or buying a GTS seat to put on the GTV would also work. The other obvious difference, which some of the owners of both could perhaps comment on, is the difference in height of the two headlights. Do you get better visibility at night with the light mounted higher, as on the GTS, or lower, as on the GTV? ![]() |
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iAmGadget wrote: Big Foot wrote: Get the GTS, Some kid is gonna steal that fender light, Then what will you do? Besides the GTS is faster. ![]() thanks for the heads up The GTS and GTV have the same engine. The only thing that might make the GTV "slower" is the nominal aerodynamic difference created by having the light on the fender. Also that light, not easy to steal. It's part of the front fender. You have to take apart the fender to get at it. Get a GTS. In midnight blue. Cause midnight blue is the fastest color available |
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sallad wrote: iAmGadget wrote: Big Foot wrote: Get the GTS, Some kid is gonna steal that fender light, Then what will you do? Besides the GTS is faster. ![]() thanks for the heads up The GTS and GTV have the same engine. The only thing that might make the GTV "slower" is the nominal aerodynamic difference created by having the light on the fender. Also that light, not easy to steal. It's part of the front fender. You have to take apart the fender to get at it. Get a GTS. In midnight blue. Cause midnight blue is the fastest color available |
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Re: seat gts or gtv
iAmGadget wrote: stinkyjones wrote: If you are over 6', you will most likely need to have a GTS seat regardless of whether you choose the GTV or GTS. The GTV seat does not allow you to scoot far enough back from the handlebars to be comfortable if you are tall. Not true in all cases, but this is true as a general rule. I'm 6'2", and i was miserable on my GTV seat. Swapped it out with a GTS seat and all is good. |
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