OP
@makenzi avatar
UTC

Hooked
ET3 Primavera
Joined: UTC
Posts: 303
Location: Tulsa, OK
 
Hooked
@makenzi avatar
ET3 Primavera
Joined: UTC
Posts: 303
Location: Tulsa, OK
UTC quote
I ordered the dog legs from scooterworks and it didnt come with any type of instruction. anyone have a site with instructions or can someone explain it to me in newbie terms so I can do this!
@mike_z avatar
UTC

Addicted
1958 Lambretta LI 190, 1968 Vespa Rally 180, 2005 Sym HD200
Joined: UTC
Posts: 507
Location: San Francisco
 
Addicted
@mike_z avatar
1958 Lambretta LI 190, 1968 Vespa Rally 180, 2005 Sym HD200
Joined: UTC
Posts: 507
Location: San Francisco
UTC quote
Re: Installing dog leg levers on PX80?
Makenzi wrote:
I ordered the dog legs from scooterworks and it didnt come with any type of instruction. anyone have a site with instructions or can someone explain it to me in newbie terms so I can do this!
are they the adjustable or non-adjustable type?
OP
@makenzi avatar
UTC

Hooked
ET3 Primavera
Joined: UTC
Posts: 303
Location: Tulsa, OK
 
Hooked
@makenzi avatar
ET3 Primavera
Joined: UTC
Posts: 303
Location: Tulsa, OK
UTC quote
UMM I am not sure.. but these are what I ordered?

http://www.scooterworks.com/Lever-Dog-Leg-Style-Alum-P2025.aspx
UTC

Ossessionato
Joined: UTC
Posts: 2633
 
Ossessionato
Joined: UTC
Posts: 2633
UTC quote
Have you ever changed your front brake cable or your clutch cable?

If not, you will need this:

clutch cable...you don't need to remove it, just loosen it:

http://www.vespamaintenance.com/body/clcable/index.html

and for the front brake...go about the 11th picture down. You don't need to remove the cable, just loosen it at the brake line behind the front hub:

http://www.vespamaintenance.com/body/forks/index.html
@mike_z avatar
UTC

Addicted
1958 Lambretta LI 190, 1968 Vespa Rally 180, 2005 Sym HD200
Joined: UTC
Posts: 507
Location: San Francisco
 
Addicted
@mike_z avatar
1958 Lambretta LI 190, 1968 Vespa Rally 180, 2005 Sym HD200
Joined: UTC
Posts: 507
Location: San Francisco
UTC quote
Makenzi wrote:
UMM I am not sure.. but these are what I ordered?

http://www.scooterworks.com/Lever-Dog-Leg-Style-Alum-P2025.aspx
ahh, good news! Those should be easy to swap out and you if your cables are in good shape you can avoid having to replace them.

You can usually get away with loosening the pinch bolt at the end of each cable, just enough to let the cable slip out an inch or two. Then remove the nut and pivot screw that holds the old lever in place and pull the lever free, be careful to catch the washers, you'll need them again. Rotate the lever a bit so you can slip the end of the cable through then do the reverse to hook your new label on. Then slip it back into place and slide the washers back in end the screw and nut. Then pul the cables tight again and readjust.
OP
@makenzi avatar
UTC

Hooked
ET3 Primavera
Joined: UTC
Posts: 303
Location: Tulsa, OK
 
Hooked
@makenzi avatar
ET3 Primavera
Joined: UTC
Posts: 303
Location: Tulsa, OK
UTC quote
got the bolt out and all but cant figure out how to grab the cable or where the cable connects.
@nigelthefish avatar
UTC

Ossessionato
ET2, PX150
Joined: UTC
Posts: 3410
Location: Denver CO
 
Ossessionato
@nigelthefish avatar
ET2, PX150
Joined: UTC
Posts: 3410
Location: Denver CO
UTC quote
Makenzi wrote:
got the bolt out and all but cant figure out how to grab the cable or where the cable connects.
guessing that's because you don't have enough slack.....did you loosen the pinch both?
OP
@makenzi avatar
UTC

Hooked
ET3 Primavera
Joined: UTC
Posts: 303
Location: Tulsa, OK
 
Hooked
@makenzi avatar
ET3 Primavera
Joined: UTC
Posts: 303
Location: Tulsa, OK
UTC quote
NO I am afraid to.. will it snap back into the handle bars? sorry I am very new at this whole thing.. so I really know NOTHING. I appreciate the help!
@gatekeep avatar
UTC

Molto Verboso
1974 Rally USA 200 1980 P200e
Joined: UTC
Posts: 1809
Location: Pioneer Valley Ma.
 
Molto Verboso
@gatekeep avatar
1974 Rally USA 200 1980 P200e
Joined: UTC
Posts: 1809
Location: Pioneer Valley Ma.
UTC quote
There alright but I would have to go with the ones advertised here on Modern Vespa. Oopsclunkthud.com He makes great stuff!
@nigelthefish avatar
UTC

Ossessionato
ET2, PX150
Joined: UTC
Posts: 3410
Location: Denver CO
 
Ossessionato
@nigelthefish avatar
ET2, PX150
Joined: UTC
Posts: 3410
Location: Denver CO
UTC quote
Makenzi wrote:
NO I am afraid to.. will it snap back into the handle bars? sorry I am very new at this whole thing.. so I really know NOTHING. I appreciate the help!
No, ok, this is easy (well clutch side is, never had to do the brake side) Follow the link VLBJS1 posted. Just find the pinch bolt and loosen it up a bit, just enought that it moves with a little effort. Then the current clutch lever will be loose. The cable runs in through a notch on the lever end. Just slip it out through the notch. Do the reverse on the doglegs and don't forget to put the washers back in. On some bikes it matters which washer is on top and which is on bottom, on my px it doesn't but if the washers have different size holes the smaller hole one goes on bottom. Use the tool on the fourth hand tool to tighten it back at the pinch bolt again, tighten the pinch bolt...adjust as needed.
@nigelthefish avatar
UTC

Ossessionato
ET2, PX150
Joined: UTC
Posts: 3410
Location: Denver CO
 
Ossessionato
@nigelthefish avatar
ET2, PX150
Joined: UTC
Posts: 3410
Location: Denver CO
UTC quote
gatekeep wrote:
There alright but I would have to go with the ones advertised here on Modern Vespa. Oopsclunkthud.com He makes great stuff!
wish he made them for a px with a disc. Cant seem to find any reasonably priced ones that will work.....
OP
@makenzi avatar
UTC

Hooked
ET3 Primavera
Joined: UTC
Posts: 303
Location: Tulsa, OK
 
Hooked
@makenzi avatar
ET3 Primavera
Joined: UTC
Posts: 303
Location: Tulsa, OK
UTC quote
VLBJS1 wrote:
Have you ever changed your front brake cable or your clutch cable?

If not, you will need this:

clutch cable...you don't need to remove it, just loosen it:

http://www.vespamaintenance.com/body/clcable/index.html

and for the front brake...go about the 11th picture down. You don't need to remove the cable, just loosen it at the brake line behind the front hub:

http://www.vespamaintenance.com/body/forks/index.html
WOW! I am in way over my head.. I have no one to help me.. I think I WILL have to just take it somewhere.. no clue where.. since I cant find anyone in town that works on vespa's
@xantufrog avatar
UTC

Moderibbit
1980 P200E - "Old Rusty", 1976 ET3 Primavera
Joined: UTC
Posts: 8891
Location: Atlanta, GA
 
Moderibbit
@xantufrog avatar
1980 P200E - "Old Rusty", 1976 ET3 Primavera
Joined: UTC
Posts: 8891
Location: Atlanta, GA
UTC quote
It's very simple, Makenzie, trust me. Give it a shot first - you'll feel great about yourself when the job is done!

Take it slow. Vespamaintenance walks you through everything step by step and people are always on this forum who can help.

To get slack on the cables (so that you can get them hooked on your new levers up at the handlebars), you need to loosen them down at the mechanism they are operating on. That's the point of the links VLB sent you. You need to undo the pinch bolt on the clutch cable under the engine (it's just sitting down there, exposed. Very easy to get at), and you need to undo the pinch on the cable down at the front brake. The images he sent you point out where I'm talking about.

All you need is a socket wrench and some pliers to do this all by yourself. One thing which will make the job easier, though, is called the 4th hand tool. You can buy it from Motorsport, Scooterworks, lots of places. It will act like another person putting tension on the cables while your hands are free to tighten pinch bolts and the like. Very useful, and highly recommended for someone with a shifty... you'll need to adjust those cables in the future as parts wear anyway.

OP
@makenzi avatar
UTC

Hooked
ET3 Primavera
Joined: UTC
Posts: 303
Location: Tulsa, OK
 
Hooked
@makenzi avatar
ET3 Primavera
Joined: UTC
Posts: 303
Location: Tulsa, OK
UTC quote
ok unscrewed the peice that has the speedometer in it. I got all the screws out and it very loose but something near the speedometer was holding it. I couldnt get the peice up enough to see what it was. I am afraid to pull or tug on it because I dont know what is under there and or if I will break something. So I couldnt get it off enough to see where the cables go into the actual lever.
@xantufrog avatar
UTC

Moderibbit
1980 P200E - "Old Rusty", 1976 ET3 Primavera
Joined: UTC
Posts: 8891
Location: Atlanta, GA
 
Moderibbit
@xantufrog avatar
1980 P200E - "Old Rusty", 1976 ET3 Primavera
Joined: UTC
Posts: 8891
Location: Atlanta, GA
UTC quote
Makenzi wrote:
ok unscrewed the peice that has the speedometer in it. I got all the screws out and it very loose but something near the speedometer was holding it. I couldnt get the peice up enough to see what it was. I am afraid to pull or tug on it because I dont know what is under there and or if I will break something. So I couldnt get it off enough to see where the cables go into the actual lever.
The headset (the piece with the speedo it it) is being held down by the speedometer. The speedometer is being held down by its cable, which runs down through the front fork, out of the fork under the fender, and into the hub itself. If you want to take the headset off, you need to disconnect the speedometer cable down at the hub (held on by only one bolt), or push the cable gently into the fork to get enough slack to disconnect it at the bottom of the speedo.

However, unless I misunderstand what you are trying to do, you don't need to do any of that.

All you need to do, to change the levers, is this:
1) loosen the clutch cable, and loosen the brake cable (this is not done at the handlebars at all. It is down down at the mechanisms they operate on. See my above post and the images on vespamaintenance VLB gave you for reference ).
2) depress/squeeze the current levers - this will pull the now loose cables up.
3) push the cylindrical metal nub at the top of the cable out through the hole it is sitting in on the lever. Don't pull the cable up and out of the scooter... just take advantage of the slack to push it out of where it "catches" on the lever.
4) take out the screw holding the lever on.
5) pull the lever off and put it in your parts drawer.
6) screw on the new lever.
7) push the cylindrical metal nub at the top of the cable back into its seat on the new lever.
8 ) re-adjust and tighten the brake and clutch cables down where they attach to those respective mechanisms.
⚠️ Last edited by xantufrog on UTC; edited 1 time
@xantufrog avatar
UTC

Moderibbit
1980 P200E - "Old Rusty", 1976 ET3 Primavera
Joined: UTC
Posts: 8891
Location: Atlanta, GA
 
Moderibbit
@xantufrog avatar
1980 P200E - "Old Rusty", 1976 ET3 Primavera
Joined: UTC
Posts: 8891
Location: Atlanta, GA
UTC quote
I think perhaps you were trying to go through all the steps on the link VLB posted to vespamaintenance (they start with trying to open the headset). Don't sweat all of that. That whole page is meant as a one-stop guide for tearing most of the whole front end off.

To help with your confusion and simplify things, I've copied the images you need to concern yourself with. I put a red X on the point I refer to in the captions
X marks where you undo the tension on the clutch cable (my step #1)
X marks where you undo the tension on the clutch cable (my step #1)
X marks where you undo the tension on the front brake cable (my step #1)
X marks where you undo the tension on the front brake cable (my step #1)
X marks the hole/catch on the existing lever that you need to push the cylindrical nubbin/stop at the top of the cable out of. Push the nubbin out of this hole and you can release the cable from the lever without pulling the cable out of the bike (step 3)
X marks the hole/catch on the existing lever that you need to push the cylindrical nubbin/stop at the top of the cable out of. Push the nubbin out of this hole and you can release the cable from the lever without pulling the cable out of the bike (step 3)
X marks the hole/catch on the levers you bought. Once you mount the levers on the bike you need to snag the cable on the new levers and seat the nubbin in these holes. All done just by hand or gently with some pliers (my step #7)
X marks the hole/catch on the levers you bought. Once you mount the levers on the bike you need to snag the cable on the new levers and seat the nubbin in these holes. All done just by hand or gently with some pliers (my step #7)
OP
@makenzi avatar
UTC

Hooked
ET3 Primavera
Joined: UTC
Posts: 303
Location: Tulsa, OK
 
Hooked
@makenzi avatar
ET3 Primavera
Joined: UTC
Posts: 303
Location: Tulsa, OK
UTC quote
Thank you all for the help! its dark here now so I will have to try this tomorrow. Will post and let you know what happens
@birdsnest avatar
UTC

Not So Moderator
VNB VSC VMA VSX - o9c vmb vse
Joined: UTC
Posts: 8887
Location: Hustletown, TX
 
Not So Moderator
@birdsnest avatar
VNB VSC VMA VSX - o9c vmb vse
Joined: UTC
Posts: 8887
Location: Hustletown, TX
UTC quote
Makenzi, it's easier than ya think. Hang in there. Xantufrog nailed it with some nice concise directions. Follow those stepwise and you're golden.

(Karma worthy posts Xantufrog... nice.)
@nigelthefish avatar
UTC

Ossessionato
ET2, PX150
Joined: UTC
Posts: 3410
Location: Denver CO
 
Ossessionato
@nigelthefish avatar
ET2, PX150
Joined: UTC
Posts: 3410
Location: Denver CO
UTC quote
XFrog got it....follow what he says and it will be super easy. You can do this. No reason to waste your cash taking it somewhere

Everyone take a second and toss the guy a thumbs up.
@carmonaville avatar
UTC

Banned
63' VBB 177, 62' Lambretta LI 185
Joined: UTC
Posts: 962
Location: San Francisco
 
Banned
@carmonaville avatar
63' VBB 177, 62' Lambretta LI 185
Joined: UTC
Posts: 962
Location: San Francisco
UTC quote
follow xantufrog's simple breakdown - you can also mark your cables with a permanent marker near the tension points before loosening them so that you have the same tension once you install the new levers. note - the new levers might have slightly different leverage/pull, but at least you will be in the neighborhood if you mark your cables.
OP
@makenzi avatar
UTC

Hooked
ET3 Primavera
Joined: UTC
Posts: 303
Location: Tulsa, OK
 
Hooked
@makenzi avatar
ET3 Primavera
Joined: UTC
Posts: 303
Location: Tulsa, OK
UTC quote
Thanks!!!! Taking a crack at it again tomorrow
@shawn45 avatar
UTC

Hooked
1979 P125x, 1980 P200E
Joined: UTC
Posts: 397
Location: Roeland Park, Kansas
 
Hooked
@shawn45 avatar
1979 P125x, 1980 P200E
Joined: UTC
Posts: 397
Location: Roeland Park, Kansas
UTC quote
xantufrog, well done on ya mate, very good example. The only thing I would ad is that when you take out the old levers, watch for the washers on the top and bottom of the levers and catch those so that you can replace them on the new levers.
@nigelthefish avatar
UTC

Ossessionato
ET2, PX150
Joined: UTC
Posts: 3410
Location: Denver CO
 
Ossessionato
@nigelthefish avatar
ET2, PX150
Joined: UTC
Posts: 3410
Location: Denver CO
UTC quote
shawn45 wrote:
xantufrog, well done on ya mate, very good example. The only thing I would ad is that when you take out the old levers, watch for the washers on the top and bottom of the levers and catch those so that you can replace them on the new levers.
+1 This!!!!!
OP
@makenzi avatar
UTC

Hooked
ET3 Primavera
Joined: UTC
Posts: 303
Location: Tulsa, OK
 
Hooked
@makenzi avatar
ET3 Primavera
Joined: UTC
Posts: 303
Location: Tulsa, OK
UTC quote
I have a friend who is going to help me, I am super excited because i know this friend will help me LEARN this.. I appreciate all the help! and I am going to print off the instructions to use.

Thank you all very very much! will let you know how it goes!
OP
@makenzi avatar
UTC

Hooked
ET3 Primavera
Joined: UTC
Posts: 303
Location: Tulsa, OK
 
Hooked
@makenzi avatar
ET3 Primavera
Joined: UTC
Posts: 303
Location: Tulsa, OK
UTC quote
Ok anyone know wha the name of the cable nipple part is to order and where to order it? Mine broke off inside itself ugh
@nigelthefish avatar
UTC

Ossessionato
ET2, PX150
Joined: UTC
Posts: 3410
Location: Denver CO
 
Ossessionato
@nigelthefish avatar
ET2, PX150
Joined: UTC
Posts: 3410
Location: Denver CO
UTC quote
Makenzi wrote:
Ok anyone know wha the name of the cable nipple part is to order and where to order it? Mine broke off inside itself ugh
Do you mean the nipple that you hook through the end of the lever? If that's gone it's time for a new cable.
@xantufrog avatar
UTC

Moderibbit
1980 P200E - "Old Rusty", 1976 ET3 Primavera
Joined: UTC
Posts: 8891
Location: Atlanta, GA
 
Moderibbit
@xantufrog avatar
1980 P200E - "Old Rusty", 1976 ET3 Primavera
Joined: UTC
Posts: 8891
Location: Atlanta, GA
UTC quote
I think she means the pinch-bolt nipple linking the clutch cable with the clutch actuator arm. Personally, I know no other way to refer to it than what I just wrote.
OP
@makenzi avatar
UTC

Hooked
ET3 Primavera
Joined: UTC
Posts: 303
Location: Tulsa, OK
 
Hooked
@makenzi avatar
ET3 Primavera
Joined: UTC
Posts: 303
Location: Tulsa, OK
UTC quote
xantufrog wrote:
I think she means the pinch-bolt nipple linking the clutch cable with the clutch actuator arm. Personally, I know no other way to refer to it than what I just wrote.
yeah the little bolt thing the clutch cable goes thru. I found it on scooterwest.com ugh i laid my scoot down tonight. the clutch was not adjusted correctly and the clutch was being held in and the shifter was moved slightly and it went into gear and drove away from us.
@nigelthefish avatar
UTC

Ossessionato
ET2, PX150
Joined: UTC
Posts: 3410
Location: Denver CO
 
Ossessionato
@nigelthefish avatar
ET2, PX150
Joined: UTC
Posts: 3410
Location: Denver CO
UTC quote
Makenzi wrote:
xantufrog wrote:
I think she means the pinch-bolt nipple linking the clutch cable with the clutch actuator arm. Personally, I know no other way to refer to it than what I just wrote.
yeah the little bolt thing the clutch cable goes thru. I found it on scooterwest.com ugh i laid my scoot down tonight. the clutch was not adjusted correctly and the clutch was being held in and the shifter was moved slightly and it went into gear and drove away from us.
Well fuck...that sucks! Hurt anything other than your pride?
@shawn45 avatar
UTC

Hooked
1979 P125x, 1980 P200E
Joined: UTC
Posts: 397
Location: Roeland Park, Kansas
 
Hooked
@shawn45 avatar
1979 P125x, 1980 P200E
Joined: UTC
Posts: 397
Location: Roeland Park, Kansas
UTC quote
Makenzi wrote:
Ok anyone know wha the name of the cable nipple part is to order and where to order it? Mine broke off inside itself ugh
What do you mean yours broke off inside? The nipple consist of three parts, The threaded screw, a small piece of metal , and the main body that the top screws into.
OP
@makenzi avatar
UTC

Hooked
ET3 Primavera
Joined: UTC
Posts: 303
Location: Tulsa, OK
 
Hooked
@makenzi avatar
ET3 Primavera
Joined: UTC
Posts: 303
Location: Tulsa, OK
UTC quote
nigelthefish wrote:
Makenzi wrote:
xantufrog wrote:
I think she means the pinch-bolt nipple linking the clutch cable with the clutch actuator arm. Personally, I know no other way to refer to it than what I just wrote.
yeah the little bolt thing the clutch cable goes thru. I found it on scooterwest.com ugh i laid my scoot down tonight. the clutch was not adjusted correctly and the clutch was being held in and the shifter was moved slightly and it went into gear and drove away from us.
Well fuck...that sucks! Hurt anything other than your pride?
Yep put a nice dent and huge scrape into my left side cowl also broke the dog leg I just put on.

Do you know if this levers will fit my scoot? I like them better than the steel ones
http://www.scooterwest.com/items/?_pageCCS=t#page=/item_details/P-Black--Dog-leg-Lever-PAIR/596
@nigelthefish avatar
UTC

Ossessionato
ET2, PX150
Joined: UTC
Posts: 3410
Location: Denver CO
 
Ossessionato
@nigelthefish avatar
ET2, PX150
Joined: UTC
Posts: 3410
Location: Denver CO
UTC quote
shawn45 wrote:
Makenzi wrote:
Ok anyone know wha the name of the cable nipple part is to order and where to order it? Mine broke off inside itself ugh
What do you mean yours broke off inside? The nipple consist of three parts, The threaded screw, a small piece of metal , and the main body that the top screws into.
Bet the screw broke in the body....I've done that. Causes a lot of swearing. In my case I had cross threaded it I think.


Hey Makenzi, those should work....wish they worked on mine, as some of our Brit members would say "Those are the dog's dangly bits" (some how that's a good thing)
OP
@makenzi avatar
UTC

Hooked
ET3 Primavera
Joined: UTC
Posts: 303
Location: Tulsa, OK
 
Hooked
@makenzi avatar
ET3 Primavera
Joined: UTC
Posts: 303
Location: Tulsa, OK
UTC quote
nigelthefish wrote:
Bet the screw broke in the body....I've done that. Causes a lot of swearing. In my case I had cross threaded it I think.

Hey Makenzi, those should work....wish they worked on mine, as some of our Brit members would say "Those are the dog's dangly bits" (some how that's a good thing)
yeah I am sure that is what happened. Okay then I am gonna order those, i know someone mentioned they had bought white ones? Anyone know where to get those? or are they not available anymore?
@nigelthefish avatar
UTC

Ossessionato
ET2, PX150
Joined: UTC
Posts: 3410
Location: Denver CO
 
Ossessionato
@nigelthefish avatar
ET2, PX150
Joined: UTC
Posts: 3410
Location: Denver CO
UTC quote
Black levers on a pink bike would look good.
OP
@makenzi avatar
UTC

Hooked
ET3 Primavera
Joined: UTC
Posts: 303
Location: Tulsa, OK
 
Hooked
@makenzi avatar
ET3 Primavera
Joined: UTC
Posts: 303
Location: Tulsa, OK
UTC quote
nigelthefish wrote:
Black levers on a pink bike would look good.
ha! thanks for the reassurance nigel!
DoubleGood Design banner

Modern Vespa is the premier site for modern Vespa and Piaggio scooters. Vespa GTS300, GTS250, GTV, GT200, LX150, LXS, ET4, ET2, MP3, Fuoco, Elettrica and more.

Buy Me A Coffee
 

Shop on Amazon with Modern Vespa

Modern Vespa is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn advertising fees by advertising and linking to amazon.com


All Content Copyright 2005-2025 by Modern Vespa.
All Rights Reserved.


[ Time: 0.0323s ][ Queries: 4 (0.0158s) ][ live ][ 327 ][ ThingOne ]