Thu Oct 07, 2010 2:58 pm

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Thu Oct 07, 2010 2:58 pm linkquote
Hi All

I have been offered a Vespa Douglas restoration project, but I am having trouble identifying which model it is.

I asked the seller for the frame number and he sent me this:

5lc12142.

Can anybody out there identify the model from these numbers?

Many Thanks.
Thu Oct 07, 2010 3:04 pm

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Thu Oct 07, 2010 3:04 pm linkquote
thats not the vin number. it should start with 3 letters right?
Thu Oct 07, 2010 3:13 pm

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Thu Oct 07, 2010 3:13 pm linkquote
help
I am having the same thing I have a 1965 vespa but thats all i know i dont know if it is a 125 or a 150 vin that i found is 3####### can someone help thanks jake
Thu Oct 07, 2010 5:58 pm

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Thu Oct 07, 2010 7:48 pm

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Thu Oct 07, 2010 7:48 pm linkquote
is that ur bike james? cause DGM i know is for local product in indonesia if IGM mean Italy (forget the next) so DGM mean Danmotor Generale (still forget the mean) and Danmotor is a factpry that produce vespa in Indonesia

but i might be wrong
Fri Oct 08, 2010 2:18 am

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Fri Oct 08, 2010 2:18 am linkquote
The DGM number is a domestic Italian manufacturer's conformity code.

All Douglas Sportique Vespas assembled in Britain had their own number system apparently on the engine only and not the Piaggio VBB2T system.
My 1963 150cc Sportique was numbered 5AC 5746.
Fri Oct 08, 2010 11:33 am

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Fri Oct 08, 2010 11:33 am linkquote
Re: Vespa Douglas Identification- Help Please
Thats a late model Sportique - probably one of the last built.

Jess
mbnz77 wrote:
Hi All

I have been offered a Vespa Douglas restoration project, but I am having trouble identifying which model it is.

I asked the seller for the frame number and he sent me this:

5lc12142.

Can anybody out there identify the model from these numbers?

Many Thanks.
Fri Oct 08, 2010 8:32 pm

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Fri Oct 08, 2010 8:32 pm linkquote
Re: Vespa Douglas Identification- Help Please
[quote="scootnz"]Thats a late model Sportique - probably one of the last built.

Jess
Quote:
I thought it might be a Sportique. Jess, how can you tell?

Cheers.
Fri Oct 08, 2010 9:08 pm

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Fri Oct 08, 2010 9:08 pm linkquote
Re: Vespa Douglas Identification- Help Please
Familiarity with the sportiques and their serial numbers. Of course we got a lot of them here in NZ through Airco.

Admittedly I asked my husband (scooter mechanic) and it was his answer as he doesn't use this forum. He has seen a great many over the last 20 years, and fixed a lot of them. He can tell just by the serial number, although if you'd posted a photo of the vespa it would have been obvious that it was a sportique as well.

Jess

[quote="mbnz77"]
scootnz wrote:
Thats a late model Sportique - probably one of the last built.

Jess
Quote:
I thought it might be a Sportique. Jess, how can you tell?

Cheers.
Mon Oct 11, 2010 7:26 pm

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Mon Oct 11, 2010 7:26 pm linkquote
koenig blues wrote:
is that ur bike james? cause DGM i know is for local product in indonesia if IGM mean Italy (forget the next) so DGM mean Danmotor Generale (still forget the mean) and Danmotor is a factpry that produce vespa in Indonesia

but i might be wrong
yup,correct it's vespa from indonesia
all the DGM series is built and produced in indonesia only (as i know)
very rare number that u have only 3 number,,

cheers mate,
Mon Oct 11, 2010 9:07 pm

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Mon Oct 11, 2010 9:07 pm linkquote
i just skimmed that photo off the interwebs.
Sun Nov 07, 2010 12:56 pm

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Sun Nov 07, 2010 12:56 pm linkquote
Oldie_goldie wrote:
koenig blues wrote:
is that ur bike james? cause DGM i know is for local product in indonesia if IGM mean Italy (forget the next) so DGM mean Danmotor Generale (still forget the mean) and Danmotor is a factpry that produce vespa in Indonesia

but i might be wrong
yup,correct it's vespa from indonesia
all the DGM series is built and produced in indonesia only (as i know)
very rare number that u have only 3 number,,

cheers mate,
Let's clear this up so bad information is not floating around the internet on this.

THE ABOVE INFORMATION IS INCORRECT

IGM = Ispettorato Generale Motorizzazione, translated, that is the Inspector General of Motor vehicles

That was the name of the ministry in Italy that regulated motor vehicles until 1967. In that year, the name was changed to:

DGM = Direzione Generale Motorizzione, translated is Directorate General of Motor vehicles.

These numbers have nothing to do with where a scooter was made. They are the certificate number issued by the Italian government showing that these bikes conform the Italian specifications for use on their motorways.
Wed Nov 10, 2010 3:34 pm

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Wed Nov 10, 2010 3:34 pm linkquote
OK I've actually got the Douglas Vespa now, I know these pictures aren't the best but is it possible to tell if this is definitely a Sportique?

Is there anyway to "id" it for sure and what year it was built?









Wed Nov 10, 2010 7:03 pm

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Wed Nov 10, 2010 7:03 pm linkquote
According to this page:
http://www.scooterhelp.com/serial/ves.frame.serial.numbers.html#douglas

The sportique was the only model with a 4-speed. However, the sportique page there refers to the vin as being a "KC" number.
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Thu Sep 22, 2022 8:39 am

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Thu Sep 22, 2022 8:39 am linkquote
I know that the original post is very old but I can confirm that the scooter is a November 1962 built Douglas Sportique. The chassis plate reads 5 as being the identity of the model (Sportique) then the 2 letters are the production month and year. the numbers are the chassis number. The month and year letters work thus, the first letter will go from A to M. A will be January. B February etc the letter I was never used so M is December. The second letter will go from A to F when production ceased. A is 1960, B 1961 etc, F is 1965. I hope this helps with Douglas Sportique identification and production dates.
Thu Sep 22, 2022 8:48 am

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Thu Sep 22, 2022 8:48 am linkquote
Quality first post there.
Worth the thread revival too.

TY and welcome.
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