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Driver position like regular pegs would

Hi ezc,

yeah exactly, where are you thinking of mounting? You can't go much further than the forward-most hole in a UFP/XT because you'll interfere with the front wheel (definitely something to think about for owners of UFP/LTs who want a bit more extension, though...but just buying a /XT is a lot cheaper!). Downwards? Maybe. Upwards? Most definitely, but probably more an option for the UPP passenger brackets or mjm50cal's side passenger bracket. Mike, what do you think?

True...but currently with a shoe size 11 I am slightly touching when really really turning.
Will give it a shot and worse case going on Ebay

Today I received both the brackets and the nickle/chrome flat pegs. I put them on in little time, as I had read numerous posts and even saw a video. I then took a ride on the 500 for at least an hour, which entailed getting on the freeway. And all I can say is . . . WOW! These brackets/pegs really make riding the piaggo a much more enjoyable bike, as there is also no tension in my lower body from trying to maintain myself at a certain position. Now I will be off to Ojai, Ca. sometime next week to Bill Mayer Saddle to get my custom-fit seat.

I wear size 11's and don't have any issues and I ride twistys pretty good. Are you just using your toes on the pegs? your instep should be on the pegs.

That's actually a good point. Foot placement plays a big part in clearances when using pegs. I wear 12's and have a different mounting solution that I believe is higher up than the bracket pegs. In certain situations (uphill tight low speed turn) my heels will drag since I like to ride with the balls of my feet on my pegs. When I make the same maneuver while resting my instep on the peg, then I never touch.

Since I prefer to cruise with the balls of my feet on my pegs, I just move to a more "tactical" position when I'm attacking corners.

I occasionally touch a heel of my boot prior to the pegs hitting in a twisty. It is a non event.

I want to give a shout out to rookie member Chefboyrg for being such a good sport when I totally screwed up what day he was supposed to come to pick up his brackets and wasn't even at home when he arrived. The Chef was kind enough to pick me up from my nearby walk and gave me a ride on the back of his awesome Leo Vince-equipped /500 to my girlfriend's house, where my MP3 and tools were.

We then spent some time carving around the streets of Wayne. Perfect weather and a lot more fun than being at work in the middle of the day. Thanks Chef!

You're from near Wayne? My wife is from Boonton

>You're from near Wayne? My wife is from Boonton

Lincoln Park. Wayne on one side, Boonton on the other. Here's how to tell if she really is from this area: ask her to pronounce it. If it comes out as anything other than a rushed "BOOED'un," (exhale on "boo", equalize pressure on "dun") she's faking it.

Well it can be done: installed, checked spacing with wheels and it is awesome.
They fold nicely and allow great confort!

Love it!

EZ, what kind of clearance do you have between that and the tire when you turn the handlebar all the way to the stop? Would there still be sufficient clearance if mounted on the most forward hole of an /XT?

How wide are they at the widest point? To follow up on a point Dirt made, they might be a unique item to hang off the UPP passenger brackets.

I may have to add that to the footpeg FAQ, really out-of-the-box thinking!

There is about 2 inches clearance at least.

Pictures to better show it

Love the look of those floor-boards.
What is the actual width and length of them please?
What brand are they and where do they come from?
Is the fitting into the bracket any different to the normal pegs?
Thanks.

Folding Floorboards measure 8" x 4 1/2" and have a 3/8" mounting stud.
Got them on Ebay under:
PANHEAD SHOVELHEAD EVOLUTION TWIN CAM MINI FLOORBOARDS

Looks like he has the floorboards angled wrong, If he drags on a steep curve it my not fold up right and cause a crash. Rjeffb said to have them fold up at the same angle as the bracket arm

Guys: stop trying to find wrong where there is not. Floorboards fold no problem, fit nice.
Don't trust it? Then don't install it

But in all fairness ez, surely they touch ground well before a regular peg would., since their lowest point (at least as you have them mounted) is below the same distance straight out from the mounting hole. That is a consideration for people who aggressively bank their bikes. I do see how their angled underneath surface makes them less likely to catch on something, which is the main reason I recommend setting pegs to maximum the tendency to flip up.

I would recommend to people banking their bike that aggressively to not get pegs then.

It never fails ... people have their own individual tastes and it just may be different than your own taste.

When a new product or old one comes out for different people, there is always someone that thinks their way is better, it just doesn't fit everyone. Or someone who presents a way to help the MP3 crowd, may take offense (a little) over someone saying something different ...

And life goes on.

Well, I can't speak for others but I had already added EZ's choice to the peg FAQ. Provided that people understand the potential drawbacks as well as the advantages, I appreciate when other members are willing to try new things and pass their findings along. Thanks EZ!

Is it possible to send this to Paris France ?
i ll pay by PayPal.

it is also possible to send it to belgium and I pay you via paypal, please let me know something and I row a fuoco

bougimain

Bonjour Belgium et France, send me a PM and I'll respond.

piagio liberty, easy

Not to talk myself out of a sale, but for anyone who is on the fence about a UFP I see that lv2sct who longer owns an MP3 is selling a set of UFP/LTs (last year's model but no difference for all but the tallest riders) WITH a set of pegs. Madstad windshield for mp3 500 & Footpeg Brackets &

I always get a chuckle thinking that I created something there's actually an "aftermarket" in!

Got a compliment Saturday from a (I think it was a) Harley rider on the peg brackets. I say I think it was a Harley, because his bike almost looked like Jed Clampett's truck with all kinds of stuff hanging off it.

Just wanted to say that the UFP/XT brackets is without a doubt the best Mod I added to my MP3. The Madstad is a close second.

I'm trying to figure out what to do with all that space I have where my feet used to go. I use the foot pegs about 99% of the time.

Thanks for making these brackets available.

Yep I agree with Rbertoni. I recently took the UFP's off of my 250 to put diamond plate running boards on and moved the UFP's to the 500. Since then I have ridden the 250 without and I really think that if I didn't have pegs I would ride a lot less. So cramped. Weird that I bought it without pegs in the first place.

...Maurice, did you have something you wanted to add to that admittedly brilliant piece of prose?

Jean, do us a favor and resize your photos before posting.

Hi everyone, I'm looking to get a fuocco 500ie and would need the footpegs but I'm 6ft 4 and hoping anyone around my height could tell me how much of a difference the pegs made. If you could add a picture showing the difference in leg room it would be a huge help. Thanks

Northumberland as in England? Send a Private Message to moderator and fellow Brit Jimc to see if he still has a spare pair he'll sell and save on shipping.

I have no more - the original requester turned up and now they're gone, sorry.

If I'd had more money at the time I'd have ordered a hundred!

I think this will help:

http://modernvespa.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=954297&highlight=diminishing#954297

There are a bunch of reviews of UFPs by tall riders scattered around this forum, but perhaps the technical answer might better answer your question. Note that that post was about one of the older, smaller UFPs; the current model is 3/4" longer (= rider's inseam) so where the old post says "6 foot," substitute "6 foot 1.5 inches."

Thanks for a quick reply. According to your post "The UFP is optimal for someone up to about 6'. Beyond that, it is not "optimal" but it is still going to be better than nothing. Once you pass about 6'4 to 6'6, the change in the angle of your knee resulting from the UFP approaches diminishing returns".... so me being 6'4 the UFP will make no real diiference
Surely if I got the seat reshaped (or something) and the UFP it would give me more room?

Well, member RamblerDan (one of the original inventors of MP3 footpegs) overcame this problem by also flattening out his seat so he can simply sit further back. You must appreciate that this means getting rid of the pillon ledge, and that means fundamentally changing the shape of the pan sitting underneath the the seat. Since a /500 (at least as delivered stock) has no storage room other than under the seat, that has implications such as no longer accomodating a helmet.

Remember, the UFP/XT is .75" longer than the UFP/LT, so you need to revise all my statements up by an inch and a half: "once you pass about 6'5.5" to 6'7.5"..." but I do get your point: you are getting close to where even an UFP/XT may not make a big enough difference. (Although speaking personally, anything is better than the stock seat plus the stock floorboard.)

There is one other solution, but I am hesitant to recommend it. Elsewhere in this forum have been posts about offset footpegs; basically they are pegs with 2" or 4" extension arms. When mounted to a UFP, they will definitely get your legs out where you want them to be.

BUT.

It's not so straightforward (the whole point of the UFP is a no-muss, no-brainer, almost no-effort improvement). Will the pegs or your feet interfere with the front wheels? Probably not but nobody has ever tried it. Will the extension apply so much torque (= force x distance) on the UFP mounting hole that they won't stay in one position (member Turbojav and I eventually got his "stirrup" pegs, which have a similar potential issue, to stay put by adding special Belleville washers...so it's surmountable, but messy). And they aren't 3/8" so you have to drill out the UFP hole. And they're really really expensive.

Ordinarilly my recommendation would be to just try a set. But while several fellow Brits have them, I don't know of any of them up by you, mostly London area. Perhaps my idea mentioned in the referenced thread about mocking up the position with a mop handle to see if they would provide enough relief to be worthwhile?

Hey UFP owners - who's our tallest rider with a /500? Do they have /LTs or /XTs?

I'm 6' 2" and the pegs are a wonderful help. Then I got the Shad seat and all is well.