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Hi all.

It's time to do my steering bearings....sigh...

I want to order the fork tube bearings.

I've been through the "notch" threads and can't find reference to the part nos for them.

I consulted the Fuoco "Catalogue of Spare Parts" and can only find the top bearings (600750)

I went on-line to Gileraspares.co.uk and their parts drawings are bad copies of the Fuoco catalogue. No luck there, but I did find the top bearings.

So, two questions:

1. What is the Piaggio part no for the lower bearing?
2. Does anyone have the SKF or equivalent numbers for both the bearings?

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I only have the manual for the 250 but I think they use the same parts. Anyway I believe the bearing part number is 6471835 and in my manual is on sheet t.04.02 id number 41 on page 87 of the manual. I had bought mine from Athens scooters in the U.S. last year but I can't find any emails or documentation from that order so I can't be totally sure. My top bearing part number is listed as 6007705 not 600750 like you posted for yours.
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I only have the manual for the 250 but I think they use the same parts. Anyway I believe the bearing part number is 6471835 and in my manual is on sheet t.04.02 id number 41 on page 87 of the manual. I had bought mine from Athens scooters in the U.S. last year but I can't find any emails or documentation from that order so I can't be totally sure. My top bearing part number is listed as 6007705 not 600750 like you posted for yours.
If you bought the parts last year, those are the old parts, not the new updated harder bearings.
So Gonzo, you now know what part numbers you don't want.
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I only have the manual for the 250 but I think they use the same parts. Anyway I believe the bearing part number is 6471835 and in my manual is on sheet t.04.02 id number 41 on page 87 of the manual. I had bought mine from Athens scooters in the U.S. last year but I can't find any emails or documentation from that order so I can't be totally sure. My top bearing part number is listed as 6007705 not 600750 like you posted for yours.
If you bought the parts last year, those are the old parts, not the new updated harder bearings.
So Gonzo, you now know what part numbers you don't want.
You are assuming that Piaggio will change the part number for the bearings including in all the tech manuals. I'd say the chances are greater that the part number will be the same but the actual bearings will be the harder ones. The question is how will you know if you have the new bearings? I have no idea.
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I only have the manual for the 250 but I think they use the same parts. Anyway I believe the bearing part number is 6471835 and in my manual is on sheet t.04.02 id number 41 on page 87 of the manual. I had bought mine from Athens scooters in the U.S. last year but I can't find any emails or documentation from that order so I can't be totally sure. My top bearing part number is listed as 6007705 not 600750 like you posted for yours.
If you bought the parts last year, those are the old parts, not the new updated harder bearings.
So Gonzo, you now know what part numbers you don't want.
You are assuming that Piaggio will change the part number for the bearings including in all the tech manuals. I'd say the chances are greater that the part number will be the same but the actual bearings will be the harder ones. The question is how will you know if you have the new bearings? I have no idea.
No, not assuming, I was in motorcycle and automotive industry for close to 2 decades. Part numbers change as a design changes, no ifs ands or buts. Service bulletins go out with new part numbers listed. Know there is new numbers have seen them posted here in a post, by JimC or Cheecky Thomas forget who.
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Yeah, sorry, 6007705 is correct. My fingers rarely do what I tell them to do...

Gonzo

EDIT: having the correct part number makes searching the forum much easier! I found the references mentioned above. Couldn't find the 6471835 number though.
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Online catalog most likely doesn't have the newest part numbers lists. I would really contact Cheeky Thomas to ensure you get the newest part.
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Online catalog most likely doesn't have the newest part numbers lists. I would really contact Cheeky Thomas to ensure you get the newest part.
Then post here so we can bookmark it!
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I didn't bookmark it so I can't. I do remember reading the post though.
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I don't remember seeing a post with the new part numbers, the closest thing that I read is this thread Piaggio MP3 - Latest gremlin curing updates!! in which Cheekythomas informs us of the new method of torquing the bearnings which he mentions they are "newer hardened" ones.
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Latest bearing numbers are...

RH side 6471835 & LH side 6007705

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Right and left are different? That's curious.
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I might be wrong, but I think the 500 has different part no.s for bearings...if I am, sorry bout that, but one parts site (gilera spares) has different bearings for the Fuoco.
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Nope they all superseed over to the same bearings... doesnt matter about engine size.

LH and RH are different purely due to the brackets for mounting the pipework being handed.
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OK

Thanks CheekyThomas for your prompt reply to my PM.

Now I re-read the parts listing I see that the parts are indeed listed correctly on pages 85 and 86. I couldn't believe that the left (No.39) is different to the right (No.41), so I thought they'd made a mistake. How could I have such little faith in Italians???

GileraSpares.co.uk lists 6471835 for 53.55GBP and 6007705 for 45.81GBP. Very strange.

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after looking at the parts dia for the 500 I see that the #39 left is the same part number as the old one 6007705 but the right one is changed.
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Was there some resolution to the part number discrepancy? Seems odd.
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Yes.

CheekyThomas is right. See his post above.

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Right and left are different? That's curious.
That is odd as hell isn't it...
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No it's not odd... As the tops are handed LH or RH. I'll take a picture tomorrow.... You could use the races from either kit, it's the top brackets that are different.
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Does anyone have a Timken/SKF/NTN part number for these bearings?
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Does anyone have a Timken/SKF/NTN part number for these bearings?
KBC is 32008XJ.

Timken is 32008XM 90KM1 BRG

SKF is 32008 XTN9/Q bearing

NSK32008XTN9/Q

This page has links and dimensions of the bearings, note that it also has some roller thrust bearings, you want tapered thrust bearings

http://srg-bearings.com/NTN/NTN32008/

Note that all these bearings are marked 32008 which is a standard industry size bearing.
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At last!

Thanks Zinfan. Good work.

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difference on Left and Right ?
Hi Zinhan, I found the bearings on SFK side, but original ones are different on sides , did you find the exact match for each side, thank you in advance.
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Does anyone have a Timken/SKF/NTN part number for these bearings?
KBC is 32008XJ.

Timken is 32008XM 90KM1 BRG

SKF is 32008 XTN9/Q bearing

NSK32008XTN9/Q

This page has links and dimensions of the bearings, note that it also has some roller thrust bearings, you want tapered thrust bearings

http://srg-bearings.com/NTN/NTN32008/

Note that all these bearings are marked 32008 which is a standard industry size bearing.
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32008 standart
And also , there 4 different products on SKF side on the same standard 32008

Is there any differences between 32008 X/Q and 32008 XTN9/Q , because when I talked with local distributor 32008 X/Q can be found everywhere while 32008 XTN9/Q is sold only in manufacturer package , meaning that you have to buy 78 pieces at least.


Anyone even tried any of these brands instead of original one? Thank you all.

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Re: 32008 standart
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And also , there 4 different products on SKF side on the same standard 32008

Is there any differences between 32008 X/Q and 32008 XTN9/Q , because when I talked with local distributor 32008 X/Q can be found everywhere while 32008 XTN9/Q is sold only in manufacturer package , meaning that you have to buy 78 pieces at least.


Anyone even tried any of these brands instead of original one? Thank you all.

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oktyunus,

To answer both your questions,

1) There is no difference between the right and left side bearings

2) the 32008 X/Q bearings will work for your scooter. The bearings are standard sized and for MP-3 application they need to be 40 mm inner diameter and 68 mm outer diameter. As you can see in this link to the 32008 X/Q bearing http://srg-bearings.com/SKF/SKF32008XQ/ the measurements listed are correct for your needs. Thickness is also correct at 19 mm

3) I used Nachi bearings I got off of the United States Amazon web page.
http://www.amazon.com/Tapered-Roller-Bearing-40x68x19-Bearings/dp/B0056JILL0/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1338962392&sr=8-1
They appear to be working well after 2500 miles of use since they were put in.

Best of luck

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