Tue Feb 13, 2007 11:29 am

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Tue Feb 13, 2007 11:29 am linkquote
This is a new version of Paul Mongoose's how-to series. The hardware is improved and requires different assembly. For reference, I purchased this set from Scooterwest in February of 2007.


step 1, These are the instructions, if you fold them twice it makes a decent coaster. That is the only use I could find for it.


step 2, Remove phillips head screw. You may discard it, you won't be using it again. Also, remove the metal clip it screws into. It's behind the guard.


step 3, Remove the nut that holds the lower cowl on. It's directly behind where I'm pointing. You'll need to be on your back to see this one.


step 4, After removing the nut you may gently pull the lower cowl away. It is fastened with grommets. The lower cowl is plastic so be careful, arrows indicate posiiton of grommets.


step 5, Keep pulling until you get to the front. The last grommet is just below the 'E' under the word Vespa. Be extra careful here, the two arrows indicate where the plastic clips into the frame. Wiggling up and down helps.


step 6, Arrow indicates position of top clip.



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Tue Feb 13, 2007 11:42 am

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Tue Feb 13, 2007 11:42 am linkquote
more to come,


step 7, Remove this top screw. You won't be using it again.


step 8, This is the 'L' bracket. The countersunk hole on top goes toward you. Use the allen head bolt provided, do not tighten.


step 9, The bottom part of the bracket goes behind the bottom screw hole.


step 10, Thread the long, narrow bolt provided into the lower part of the 'L' bracket. Just a few threads, you are only lining up the bracket. Now, tighten the top allen bolt. Next, remove the bottom, long bolt.


step 11, Putting the tabs in first, re-attach the lower cowl. The back bolt will return to its position just below the turn signal. Do not put the nut on this part, yet.


step 12, Put this bracket on the rear part of the bottom of the cowl. This is the reverse of step 3, except that you are adding the chrome bracket.

Tue Feb 13, 2007 12:00 pm

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Tue Feb 13, 2007 12:00 pm linkquote
last set,


step 13, Using the long bolt, put the spacer in between the guard and the cowl. The lock washer goes next the bolt head. Do not tighten.


step 14, After both sides are loosely bolted you may bolt the two pieces together at the rear and tighten.


step 15, Tighten front bolts.


step 16, Tighten rear bolts on the back brackets. Don't forget to tighten the nut that holds the cowl to your scoot.


step 17, You'll notice that the old style position 'A' is where the bracket came down. The new style is swept forward.


step 18, The side reflectors do not need to be removed during this process. That's it, you are finished!

Tue Feb 13, 2007 1:02 pm

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Tue Feb 13, 2007 1:02 pm linkquote
Very nice. Thanks.

It looked like the instructions referenced a hacksaw and blowtorch, but didn't see you use one Wha happen'd??
Tue Feb 13, 2007 1:10 pm

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Tue Feb 13, 2007 1:10 pm linkquote
Interesting! Looks like a good improvement in the design of the crash bars. I notice that the front bracket is now straighter and has an extra attachment point to the scooter itself. Also, it shouldn't whack the transmission air intake anymore. I like!
Tue Feb 13, 2007 1:37 pm

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Tue Feb 13, 2007 1:37 pm linkquote
JerryG wrote:
Very nice. Thanks.

It looked like the instructions referenced a hacksaw and blowtorch, but didn't see you use one Wha happen'd??
I was thiiiiiis close. The instructions do not even hint at the solution and there were parts left over. The instructions and parts kit must be flexible to work for other scoots. That's the only thing I could figure out. However, it's on now, and it's solid.
Tue Feb 13, 2007 1:59 pm

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Tue Feb 13, 2007 1:59 pm linkquote
Nice, can you tell me how much are they. I went to their site but I can't find the listing...Have you tested it out yet, because you mentioned they are solid...
Tue Feb 13, 2007 2:03 pm

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Tue Feb 13, 2007 2:03 pm linkquote
purpleGORILLA wrote:
Nice, can you tell me how much are they. I went to their site but I can't find the listing...Have you tested it out yet, because you mentioned they are solid...
They're available from Motorsport Scooters for $225. Tell them Modern Vespa sent you.
Tue Feb 13, 2007 4:50 pm

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Tue Feb 13, 2007 4:50 pm linkquote
Thanks, Jess. You are correct, tell them Modern Vespa sent you. You'll be glad you did.
Tue Feb 13, 2007 5:18 pm

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Tue Feb 13, 2007 5:18 pm linkquote
Very helpful and informative. It takes more effort to install than I had guessed, no big surprised really considering the fact that it's Italian.
Sat Apr 14, 2007 2:00 pm

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Sat Apr 14, 2007 2:00 pm linkquote
Following up on another thread: could this thread please be "upgraded" to the Projects board?
Sat Apr 14, 2007 2:07 pm

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Sat Apr 14, 2007 2:07 pm linkquote
Mol wrote:
Following up on another thread: could this thread please be "upgraded" to the Projects board?
Most certainly! How did we miss that? I think the public project area was open when this was first posted.

Tom
Sun Apr 15, 2007 3:00 am

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Sun Apr 15, 2007 3:00 am linkquote
Done it. Easy peasy! I'll post pictures later.
Sun Apr 15, 2007 8:50 am

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Sun Apr 15, 2007 8:50 am linkquote
Nicely illustrated instructions, great job!

Will these crash bars effectively prevent cowl damage if the scoot is layed down?
Sun Apr 15, 2007 12:26 pm

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Sun Apr 15, 2007 12:26 pm linkquote
My first hand experience with the crash bars (albeit the slightly larger model) on my 125 Granturismo is yes, they definitely provide a certain level of protection. My 125 has been twice on its left side: once because of the dreaded side stand, and once in a minor accident. The cowl wasn't scratched at all but the bar was.
Tue Apr 17, 2007 3:56 pm

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Tue Apr 17, 2007 3:56 pm linkquote
Warning: Dumb Question Ahead.

I've never had crash bars on my scoot, so bear with me. By the install photos, it looks like they sit right against the body. What's to keep them from rubbing / wearing into the paint?

(Be gentle! )
Tue Apr 17, 2007 4:43 pm

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Tue Apr 17, 2007 4:43 pm linkquote
breturi7 wrote:
I've never had crash bars on my scoot, so bear with me. By the install photos, it looks like they sit right against the body. What's to keep them from rubbing / wearing into the paint?
The don't actually touch. They sit away from the paint all the way around.
Wed Apr 18, 2007 2:52 am

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Wed Apr 18, 2007 2:52 am linkquote
Actually one of my bars is just barely touching the plastic trim at the rear of the scooter. I expect it to eventually wear some of the paint away....
Wed Apr 18, 2007 5:41 am

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Wed Apr 18, 2007 5:41 am linkquote
jess wrote:
breturi7 wrote:
I've never had crash bars on my scoot, so bear with me. By the install photos, it looks like they sit right against the body. What's to keep them from rubbing / wearing into the paint?
The don't actually touch. They sit away from the paint all the way around.
Thanks for the info, Jess. It's hard to tell from those pics if the bars are touching the body or not. I'm thinking of installing a set when I upgrade to the GTV.
TorontoTL wrote:
Actually one of my bars is just barely touching the plastic trim at the rear of the scooter. I expect it to eventually wear some of the paint away....
If it's only in one spot, ever thought about inserting a little felt pad at that one area?

Wed May 02, 2007 9:38 am

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Wed May 02, 2007 9:38 am linkquote
I cannot thank you enough for your help with this install......I simply could not have done it without your help!! mark
Sat Oct 06, 2007 1:08 pm

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Sat Oct 06, 2007 1:08 pm linkquote
Gary Thanks for the instructions, Put them on the GT60 today.
See you at Italian Fest
Sun Oct 28, 2007 2:38 am

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Sun Oct 28, 2007 2:38 am linkquote
great!

I' m putting on mine today and you make it easier for me!!!


thanks mate!
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